Debunking 6 Myths About Anders Breivik
Good stuff from Sultan Knish:
1. Anders Behring Breivik was a Fundamentalist ChristianBreivik described himself as not a religious person and mentions praying only once. His plans leading up to the attacks involved multiple visits to prostitutes. In one section of his manifesto he clarifies what he means by Christian.
Q: Do I have to believe in God or Jesus in order to become a Justiciar Knight?no, you don't need to have a personal relationship with God or Jesus to fight for our Christian cultural heritage. It is enough that you are a Christian-agnostic or a Christian-atheist (an atheist who wants to preserve at least the basics of the European Christian cultural legacy
Breivik did call himself a Christian, but meant that in a cultural sense, rather than a theological one. He emphasized that he was not seeking a theocracy, but a secular society. His idea of a Christian Europe had nothing to do with religion.
2. Anders Behring Breivik Hated MuslimsBreivik viewed Muslims as the enemy, but only domestically. He emphasized that; "Knights Templar do not intend to persecute devout Muslims"
And he contemplated collaborating with them on terrorist attacks against Europe. "An alliance with the Jihadists might prove beneficial to both parties... We both share one common goal." The Caliphate was a useful enemy for his cause.
...Breivik spells out that he is willing to kill Europeans on behalf of just about anyone...
There might come a time when we, the PCCTS, Knights Templar will consider to use or even to work as a proxy for the enemies of our enemies.Under these circumstances, the PCCTS, Knights Templar will for the future consider working with the enemies of the EU/US hegemony such as Iran (South Korea is unlikely), al-Qaeda, al-Shabaab or the rest of the devout fractions of the Islamic Ummah with the intention for deployment of small nuclear, radiological, biological or chemical weapons in Western European capitals and other high priority locations. ...
This should put to rest any idea that Breivik was on a crusade against Islam. He was a deluded man who imagined himself leading a takeover of Europe, even if he had to serve as a Muslim proxy to do it.







Next you'll say Palin had nothing to do with the Giffords shootings.
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Crid [CridComment at gmail] at July 27, 2011 12:53 AM
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Amy Alkon
at July 27, 2011 12:56 AM
Hell, they're trying to blame Palin for these.
I never thought I would live to see the day when half the population was insane.
brian at July 27, 2011 5:16 AM
Hey Amy, I was wondering when we were going to hear from you on this...thanks for posting this! You'd never know any of the above to listen to the mainstream media...all we hear is "Christian" terrorist who was on a "Crusade" and was virulently "anti-Muslim." Hell, look at all the articles about "this is where Islamphobia gets us", etc. What a bunch of crap.
@brian, I don't know that half the population is insane...would like to believe that there's more common sense out there than that, but maybe I'm just too optimistic. I think the nut jobs just have bigger mouths...and of course the internet provides the forum.
the other Beth at July 27, 2011 5:30 AM
Beth - Obama won with 52% of the vote. At least 52% of the American voting public is out of their minds.
brian at July 27, 2011 5:45 AM
Brian, yeah I know...but I keep hoping at least some of that 52% has woken up from the hope and change induced coma to some cold, hard reality?
the other Beth at July 27, 2011 5:56 AM
But even with "high" turnout, that's still not most adults. American voter turnout is pathetically low. Quote:
A significant chunk of Obama's supporters were starry-eyed young voters, who have (hopefully) learned the same lesson-of-a-lifetime that my generation learned in the Carter years.... If that's true, Obama's presidency will have the long-term effect of generating another generation of conservative voters.
Shock therapy is probably the only way such a message could cut through years of PC indoctrination.
Ben David at July 27, 2011 7:51 AM
You are not sticking to the narrative comrade! This will be reported.
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Beth and Brian,
I did not vote in the last presidential election because I refused to vote for the lesser of two evils. I have since stopped being a complete retard. Probably I will be throwing my vote away on a third party candidate, but that's several shades less dumb. Or at least several shades less cynical.
Elle at July 27, 2011 7:55 AM
I actually said something about this in the comments yesterday on an entry:
Amy Alkon at July 27, 2011 8:44 AM
A significant chunk of Obama's supporters were starry-eyed young voters, who have (hopefully) learned the same lesson-of-a-lifetime that my generation learned in the Carter years.... If that's true, Obama's presidency will have the long-term effect of generating another generation of conservative voters.
We shall see. Currently Americans seem to like neither party very much, and Obama is more popular than the Republicans.
Christopher at July 27, 2011 8:50 AM
christopher, show me one poll that tells you that obozo is more popular than the top republicans. Quit pulling facts out of your ass. You could run daffy duck against obozo and win. This is not to say I like any of the republicans so far.
ronc at July 27, 2011 10:15 AM
Because Obama is an actual person with an identity. "Congressional Republicans" are just a faceless blob.
It's harder to generate actual hate against an actual person.
It's why militaries try to dehumanize the other side. If they guy at the other end of your gun is a ______, he's not a guy with a wife, kids, day job, dreams, etc.
It's why politicians try to dehumanize or caricature their opponents. If John Boehner is an orange-colored, weepy, shill for "the rich fat cats," he's not a man with a wife, children, and a job to do.
That's why polls keep finding that people approve of Obama as a person and disapprove of the job he's doing. And why they find it easier to disapprove of Democrats or Republicans as a whole.
And it's why biased pollsters ask the questions the way they do.
Conan the Grammarian at July 27, 2011 10:19 AM
christopher, show me one poll that tells you that obozo is more popular than the top republicans. Quit pulling facts out of your ass.
Obama vs. Romney:
www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2012/president/us/general_election_romney_vs_obama-1171.html
Obama vs. Palin:
www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2012/president/us/general_election_palin_vs_obama-1169.html
Obama vs. Bachmann
www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2012/president/us/general_election_bachmann_vs_obama-1941.html
Obama vs. Gingrich
www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2012/president/us/general_election_gingrich_vs_obama-1453.html
This is not to say that Obama is especially well-liked right now. He's certainly vulnerable.
Because Obama is an actual person with an identity. "Congressional Republicans" are just a faceless blob.
Conan, you're correct, and make good points about Obama vs. Congress, and real people vs. faceless masses.
But Obama is also more popular than many Republicans with real name recognition, like Palin and Romney. That won't remain static, of course. He will certainly have a tough fight on his hands given the state of the economy, and the slowdown that will result from the spending cuts (or worse) to come out of the debt ceiling fight.
If the Republicans can manage to nominate someone who is not perceived as an extremist, like Romney, I suspect they win. If they nominate a radical like Bachmann, they probably lose. If they nominate a stealth radical, like Perry, it's probably a toss-up because the media are likely to offer Democrats an assist in portraying him as a radical.
Christopher at July 27, 2011 11:58 AM
"Brian, yeah I know...but I keep hoping at least some of that 52% has woken up from the hope and change induced coma to some cold, hard reality? "
I have a theory that every generation of Americans has to experience a bit of socialism first-hand, in order to see for themselves why it's a bad idea. For my generation, it was Carter... we watched as our fathers, who had held good jobs when we were younger, had to take jobs as store clerks and fast-food slingers. We watched our President tell us that we were the cause of all of the world's problems, that we had to sacrifice without end, and that our decline was inevitable and we would never live as well as our parents. That's when we decided that when we were old enough to vote, we would never vote for Carter or anyone like him.
So we saw Obama coming from a mile away. For anyone that remembered Carter's 1975-76 campaign, Obama was a movie we'd seen already. But we couldn't convince our kids and younger relatives. They had to see for themselves. Well, now they've seen. We won't rub it in. Well, not very much.
Cousin Dave at July 27, 2011 7:17 PM
Dave, you may be on to something.
But I intend to rub it in good and hard. These ignorant pukes have put everything my friends and I have worked for in jeopardy because some punk-ass from Chicago said "Yes We Can!".
Never said what they could, though.
brian at July 27, 2011 9:20 PM
". . . But we don't. We're not even close. So Americans should just shut up and watch. It could do us some good to see how a civilised society handles such a horrifying crime."
http://www.economist.com/blogs/democracyinamerica/2011/07/norwegian-v-american-justice
Also, Cousin Dave, I agree that Obama has been a disaster, but re jobs let's get real: "our fathers" had to take jobs as clerks and hash-slingers because Corporate America outsourced all the manufacturing jobs overseas. The plutocrats sucking on champagne and smoking cigars while laughing at how they made money off junk bonds and derivatives are the ones who got rid of those jobs. That's the nasty side of capitalism Americans conveniently forget.
Lisa Simeone at July 29, 2011 8:32 AM
And why did Corporate America do that?
Why did Corporate America incur additional logistics costs and the headaches of distance management instead of leaving jobs local where the manufacturing process be overseen easily and products shipped to market relatively inexpensively by rail and truck?
Because Corporate America is Eeeevil! Eeeevil, I tell you.
Or ... could it be because legal and union demands made a $25/hour job cost more than $65/hour? Toyota makes $1,500 per car sold. General Motors makes less than $500. Skewed wage and benefit scales account for almost the entirety of that disparity.
And, what's even more troubling, we're witnessing the same thing now with minimum wage jobs. At almost $10/hour, it's not worth a company's time to hire an inexperience newbie and train him.
So, the inexperienced worker is forced to bear the training costs himself, finding a way to put himself through a trade school or community college.
But some of those jobs for inexperienced workers are gone forever. The jobs requiring very little skill and only the ability to show up on time are all but gone.
Roger Miller sang about "two hours of pushing broom" buying an "8x12 four-bit room." Today, the employment overhead and minimum wage requirements mean the broom pusher costs more than a cleaning service or the owner simply doing it himself.
And, thanks to burdensome regulations and wage inflation, even two hours work at minimum wage won't buy a room for the night.
Like eliminating Social Security, eliminating the minimum wage is going to be painful ... at least for those at the bottom of the ladder.
Costs have been driven up for so long that sellers of goods and services, even when relieved of burdensome minimum wage and additional labor costs, are not going to immediately lower the costs of their products to a level that those making the lowest wages can afford. Until things adjust, a Big Mac will a luxury for the guy making it.
That's what we get for creating a welfare state.
That's the nasty side of liberalism Americans (and liberals) conveniently forget.
Conan the Grammarian at July 29, 2011 9:15 AM
"...because Corporate America outsourced all the manufacturing jobs overseas."
Lisa, may I safely assume that all of your clothing is made in the USA? That you never go to WalMart?
The consumer demands low prices, and market communication allows a company unfettered by Federal regulations to make those products.
The public asks for consumer protection and fails to limit it. They demand more and more laws from their elected reps while excoriating them for failing to do what they have, in fact, forbidden. They want high wages and cheap goods. OF COURSE that means a change in the market.
BTW, there is still lots of manufacturing going on in the USA, but trivial jobs in those plants are gone.
Radwaste at July 29, 2011 9:58 AM
I have, within the past 18 months, hired 6 people for jobs that must, due to export controls, be performed by American citizens. Otherwise, they and I would all be unemployed.
It's not "the greedy corporations." Do you really think following environmental regulations, and labor rules and EEO laws and affirmative action and compliance with all those other good rules is free?
You, and every other person living in this country, pays for them. Why would greedy corporations voluntarily incur increased shipping costs, and the difficulty of setting up new factories, and training a new labor force, and dealing with other cultures and languages and governments? Answer: Because it is better, cheaper, and easier than dealing with ourselves.
Sorry, Lisa, they don't hate you. They'd hire you in a second if your labor provided value to the shareholders. You know, the people who put a few bucks in the 401K and own the company.
MarkD at July 29, 2011 6:57 PM
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