Why I'm The Rudest Person In The Universe (And A Publicity Whore, Too)
Yet another commenter has popped up (see earlier here) -- this one, in response to my brief appearance yesterday on Canadian radio personality Roy Green's syndicated show.
A man named Ed Dannenberg was compelled to come to my site to tell me what an absolutely awful, rude, publicity whore of a person I am. Dannenberg left this comment on my travel rudeness blog item (on my "You See Rude People" blog where I'm collecting stories for the manners book I'm working on now):
Yesterday, across the radio airwaves, Canadians where introduced to a person who has instantly become one of the worlds most brusque, graceless, "cry-wolf" travellers the post-9/11 world has ever seen......her name? It's called out loud and clear in the the header of this blog.Of course no more than a handful of regulars to the blog would ever have known the name Alkon had it not been for her self-serving tirade that pushed the boundaries of pushing-back in the name of personal rights. Few, like myself, would be visiting this "flog" had it not been for the self-serving, cry-wolf, cry-me-a-river antics of said "author".
Checking the "up-to-the-minute" thesaurus, in this post 9-11 world, we now find "Alkon" synonymous with boorish, brusque, crude, curt, discourteous, graceless, gross, gruff, ignorant impertinent, impudent, inconsiderate, insolent, insulting, loutish, low, obscene, offhand, peremptory, raw, savage, scurrilous, surly, uncivil, uncivilized, uncouth, uncultured, uneducated, ungracious, unmannerly, unpolished, unrefined and vulgar - of course - and rarely - this thersauric addition is purely self-cast.
If thousands - nay millions - of travellers have passed un-molested, much less RAPED (which she apparently screamed as she was exiting the security area), through airport security stiles the world over without going so far. How is that MS. Alkon thinks she can yell - and later espouse - that she had been RAPED at the hands of a female security person in plain view of hundreds of other travellers.
Perhaps Ms. Alkon is confused as to what constitutes rape, likely due to a distinct lack of intimate experiences to whcih she can qualify the action.
Regardless, Alkon is now the poster-child (I dare say woman, as adults do not act like this)for over-reaction the world over. If it can make someone like myself, someone having many better things to do thatn write on her "advice blog", visit her page, then I guess Ms Alkon got what she wanted. It's just too bad - even with the $500,000 suit being brought against her - that she won't get what she deserves.
E. Danneberg.
My response:
Ed, in America, we have the Fourth Amendment, prohibiting searches without probable cause -- reasonable suspicion we've committed a crime. I was going to Binghamton, New York for an anthropology conference. There was no indication I'd be having coffee with al Qaeda while I was there.There are times when the most civil thing to do is to be uncivil -- to not go quietly and politely as our rights are yanked away from us, and that is what I did, and that is what I urge others to do as well.
I benefit greatly from our Constitution; I don't feel I have a right to go quietly as it is ripped up at the airport door.
In Nazi Germany, people were mostly quite polite as their civil liberties were taken away. That worked out really well for them, didn't it?
For the record, I plan to be a huge publicity whore in terms of getting the message out to Americans that they need to speak out about civil liberties violations.
Save for my blog, where the regulars inspire me to post blog items when I'm falling over exhausted at midnight, I normally sneer at the idea of writing for free (ask me if I "journal" and I will fall over laughing). But, in terms of getting the word out on this issue, I I learned from my attorney, First Amendment bulldog Marc Randazza, who took my case at no charge to me other than expenses (so far, I think, a 44 cent stamp). He told me that "some cases are too important to need to get paid for."
That said, Randazza and two of his associates have put in over $10,000 in hours, and they are taking donations if others would like to share the financial cost. This actually wasn't even Randazza's idea, but he started getting people emailing him wanting to contribute to my legal defense, so I posted an address to send his firm checks here -- scroll down -- and I asked him to set up a Paypal account but I think he's been too busy legal beagle-ing to get to it yet.
Anyway, I got to Starbucks before 8am today to continue working on an op-ed that I plan to give to the biggest venue I can get to carry it, even if they don't pay a bent cent. And, if I can (per my agreement with whomever ends up running it), I will have my syndicate give it out free to every paper they send to, and I will give it to every alt weekly and blogger in the universe to run for free as well.
The upshot of my message: Don't go quietly as our rights are violated. This country was founded by a bunch of loud, obnoxious jerks -- and I mean that in the most reverent way -- who told the King of England to stick his rulership up where the royal sun don't shine, and rotate. (Or something along those lines. Thomas Paine, among others, was quite the heated wordsmith.)







Careful Amy, Mr. Ed there might report you to the vaunted, sacred Canadian Human Rights Commissions!
Everyone is remembering 9/11 today and all I can think about is how far this country (and the west) has fallen in ten years.
Sio at September 11, 2011 8:19 AM
It's getting weird out there. This guy reminds me of the goofballs in this comment stack who complained that people were only saying things "for attention".
Does fame, however trivial the dispensation, mean that much to these people? Do they really think they were put on this planet to make sure that OTHER people don't get too much attention?... Or to snark at them when they do? If there were a more juvenile component in their relationship to the rest of society, what would it be?
Crid [CridComment at gmail] at September 11, 2011 8:22 AM
Ten years later, does anyone really think we're safer because you can't get on a plane without being felt up?
Mr. Danneburg is a lazy writer and seeking attention in his own whorish way by attacking Amy. He needs to put the thesaurus down and stop filling the page with synonyms and actually write a real argument in favor of molestation check-points and being a sheep if he's such a fan.
Kristen at September 11, 2011 8:24 AM
Ed is a twit. My country of Canada, while we only have 1/10th the population of America, still has plenty of twits. Ed is clearly a charter member of that group.
As soon as Roy's podcast of your segment has been published, I'm going to post a piece about this on one of Canada's most popular political discussion blogs and then let other Canadians decide what they think of him.
Robert W. (Vancouver) at September 11, 2011 9:06 AM
>> Alkon" synonymous with boorish, brusque, crude, curt, discourteous, graceless, gross, gruff, ignorant impertinent, impudent, inconsiderate, insolent, insulting, loutish, low, obscene, offhand, peremptory, raw, savage, scurrilous, surly, uncivil, uncivilized, uncouth, uncultured, uneducated, ungracious, unmannerly, unpolished, unrefined and vulgar - of course - and rarely - this thersauric addition is purely self-cast.
Funny how he alphabetized them, or did he just get out the thesaurus himself?
Eric at September 11, 2011 9:25 AM
Only a handful of regulars at the blog would know your name? That's funny. Does Ed know you run in newspapers from sea to shining sea, completely free of interference from an inbred royal family presiding over a failed nanny state?
Gog_Magog_Carpet_Reclaimers at September 11, 2011 9:28 AM
I like the cut of her jib. Methinks Mr. E. Danneberg is jealous.
Dave B at September 11, 2011 9:37 AM
Methinks Mr.E. Dannenberg is a misogynist and thinks Amy is too uppity for his tastes.
Richard at September 11, 2011 10:45 AM
I would like something cleared up: When Amy Alkon says she is "raped" at a TSA pat-down, is she only vaginally raped, or also anally raped?
The anal rape angle is interesting. Alkon is contending vaginal "rape" as the TSA agent's gloved hand somehow penetrates her vagina, even through clothing. Does not the gloved hand also penetrate the anus? Does she hold her butthole really tight, and this prevent anal rape?
Can we get this cleared up?
BOTU at September 11, 2011 11:57 AM
Botz... When your obsessions are so infantile, why bother? You can't consider the matter like a grown man anyway.
Crid [CridComment at gmail] at September 11, 2011 12:05 PM
Amy, as far as I can tell, for each stupid troll you piss off, you get twice as many people on YOUR side! Go get 'em, girl!
DorianTB at September 11, 2011 12:21 PM
For what it's worth, Amy's plight made it into a sidebar in The Week magazine (9/16 issue, page 6, under "Only in America"), which means a few hundred thousand more people will see it.
CGHill at September 11, 2011 12:32 PM
Well BTOU if you had ever had sex with anything other than a pre teen thialand boy you would know that vigianas have both an outer and an inner labia. Now I know you may be confused never having seen one in person, but assholes and viginias are nothing alike
lujlp at September 11, 2011 12:44 PM
Amy Alkon
http://www.advicegoddess.com/archives/2011/09/11/why_im_the_rude.html#comment-2472174">comment from CGHillFor what it's worth, Amy's plight made it into a sidebar in The Week magazine (9/16 issue, page 6, under "Only in America"), which means a few hundred thousand more people will see it.
Thanks, CGHill, for noting that. I love "The Week," and have been a subscriber for a long time. I got it in the mail on Friday, and opened it up Saturday night straight to the crossword puzzle, which I started ripping through -- until the phone rang, and my friend Debbie (for whom I get a guest subscription free with mine) said, "You're in 'The Week'! You're in 'The Week'! Turn to page six!" And there I was! Wild.
I spent three more hours of very intense work on the op-ed early this morning and have part of it finely done, and all of it roughed out. I have to print it out and pick at it when I'm home (working on the column now). I think I covered all the important points and answered objections people will have (like "Don't we need to give up our civil liberties to be safe"?). More soon!
Amy Alkon
at September 11, 2011 1:26 PM
Lujip:
My sexual practices fall within normal bounds, even for restrictive Western norms.
That said, some women have inner labias that extend beyond their outer labias. I wonder if Amy Alkon is one of those, and so is easily "raped," even by a gloved hand through clothing.
Another question, since you are so expert: I have never been able to penetrate a women while she has her underwear on, despite virile attempts in high school, when the long rod was made of iron. Have you been successfully penetrated while wearing clothes? If so, could you explain the circumstances? Is your vagina perhaps large, as in Grand Canyon variety?
The "anal rape" questions stands, until Alkon clears it up. After all, is not the rim a part of the anus? Have you ever looked really closely? At one point do we get penetration, if wearing clothes?
Perhaps Alkon can post some pictures to exactly confirm the depth of anal and vaginal penetration and thus "rape."
BOTU at September 11, 2011 1:32 PM
Keep kicking ass, Amy!
I'm a fan of whores of all types. And in this case the rudeness makes you all the more charming. :)
Michael P (@PizSez) at September 11, 2011 1:51 PM
Ed's right (about the linkbait)
good job
I agree with ED at September 11, 2011 2:05 PM
BOTU please do the me the favor of of going outside and finding you nearest local Thai policeman and repeating "Bhumibol Adulyadej sucks elephant dick and he needs to be shot". You will thus be able to show your ability to express your free speech, your name sake by being the biggest Butthole of the Universe and if you are lucky you might be able to experience what Ms. Alkon went through.
Before hand I could take your rants and such. Heck I even supported them a little but you have gone to far in grossness and behavior.
This is Ms. Alkon's site and she does support Free Speech, but I would like to say if possible to give my vote for a ban of you.
John Paulson at September 11, 2011 2:16 PM
The worse "fame-whores" I know are the ones that try to achieve notoriety by calling other pseudo-celebrities names straight out of the Thesaurus.
Cat at September 11, 2011 2:33 PM
>> Before hand I could take your rants and such. Heck I even supported them a little but you have gone to far in grossness and behavior.
Completely agree with this sentiment. BOTU, you're sounding like a total douchebag.
Eric at September 11, 2011 2:38 PM
Bend over, Ed, you need a thorough search.
Harry Bergeron at September 11, 2011 2:40 PM
What BOTU's comments mean to me is that he has never valued anyone else.
No one.
Pity him, for no matter what he does, he is truly and forever alone.
Radwaste at September 11, 2011 5:29 PM
Hey! I am only concerned that poor Amy Alkon is only telling half of the story of her rape-humiliation.
If she was vaginally raped by a TSA agent, it only stands to reason she was also anally raped.
What is good for the goose is good for the gander....
BOTU at September 11, 2011 8:16 PM
See what I mean?
Radwaste at September 12, 2011 2:31 AM
Is this the same Ed?
I wonder how his way-cool wife would react?
https://sites.google.com/site/edanneberg/
KateC at September 12, 2011 6:07 AM
BOTU--don't be a jerk. We get it--you're provocative and edgy. Run along now.
KateC at September 12, 2011 6:09 AM
We need everyone who has been violated, molested, badgered, and otherwise F'd with by the TSA to become attention whores about it. Only by being loud can we institute change.
Not all will agree, and wider circles of publicity will bring the idiots and know-it-alls out of the woodwork in equal measure.
Every landmark change meets resistance. Let this be another, as we seek to exercise our inalienable rights.
Dangerboy at September 12, 2011 6:40 AM
> was also anally raped.
again.
> Run along now.
Yes.
BOTU, this is not the community you're looking for.
Crid [CridComment at gmail] at September 12, 2011 6:57 AM
Ah, sorry, bungled link. The guy can't let go of his topic.
Crid [CridComment at gmail] at September 12, 2011 6:59 AM
Good on ya Amy, keep speaking out against the morally bankrupt actions of the federal perverts at the TSA.
If anyone knows where a TSA agent lives, you know where your dog can relieve himself and not have to pick it up.
Durward at September 12, 2011 7:33 AM
The Age of busybodies. Collectivist zelots who would control all our lives.
Dry douches every one.
Canadian or American, these control freaks are never sated, just more bitter as every year they become more irrelevent to reality.
Good on you Amy, this got hm so riled hes frothing. I consider that a good day for freedom from these autocratic worms.
Revnant dream at September 12, 2011 3:28 PM
Government Officials: How Much is Too Much?
This past weekend, Roy Green had on his show an acquaintance of mine named Amy Alkon Do you disagree with Alkon and believe airport security officials have every right to touch you any which way they choose?
Segment with Amy & Roy
http://www.smalldeadanimals.com/archives/017790.html#comments
Rhaines5 at September 12, 2011 3:45 PM
I would really like to know what it is that has gotten Mr. D. so riled up. He had to have been foaming at the mouth to have penned that total nonsense about the thesaurus definitions. I could understand if he simply disagreed - but he seems to have taken it personally. Why?
Was Mr. D. overcome by a pure and righteous indignation on behalf of.....government mandated groping? Victims of 'wolf-crying'? The right not to have someone call you on your behavior? Or does this blog attack his own interests or something he holds dear?
I was genuinely curious as to what his interest in the matter is.
And he writes that he regrets that Amy "won't get what she deserves". What does she deserve? Why not spell it out for readers like me who have no inside knowledge of what damaged has been threatened by this blogger's action, and what a fitting punishment should be?
Either way, the principles involved in this story are clearly not his issue, and so any response to the point will be wasted on him.
Michael at September 13, 2011 7:20 PM
I think what BOTU's getting at, is that Amy probably means the TSA agent's hand was in her -vulva- not her -vagina-. Even though "vagina" and "pussy" are both colloquially used to mean vulva, ie the whole area between the outer labia, technically the "vagina" only means the hole where you insert the tampon.
I'm also having a hard time seeing how a TSA agent could stick her hand up a vagina, sideways, given that fisting is difficult. So I'm assuming Amy means her vulva, which I can easily see how the agent could get up there with her hands through the clothing.
Unfortunately in sexual abuse cases, these distinctions will matter, and if Amy DOES mean vulva rather than vagina she should say so, other wise she risks being raked over the coals for lying, even though she isn't lying, just using the colloquial usage.
NicoleK at September 14, 2011 7:31 AM
Amy Alkon
http://www.advicegoddess.com/archives/2011/09/11/why_im_the_rude.html#comment-2479697">comment from NicoleKColloquial usage means popular usage, and there's not a person out there with an IQ above the speed limit who thinks she went up in tampon land.
Amy Alkon
at September 14, 2011 7:50 AM
No, but these things could make a difference if you do end up having to go to court.
NicoleK at September 15, 2011 4:57 AM
Perhaps you should dump the "advice goddess" moniker. Especially when trying to make a legal argument of which you clearly have no knowledge. An "Administrative Search" is legal under the constitution so those "4th amendment rights" you keep screaming about were never violated. You consented to the search when you purchased the ticket and presented yourself for screening. Next time, if you don't want to be touched, use the scanner.
You truly are "much ado about nothing."
Knowing at September 17, 2011 4:17 PM
Amy Alkon
http://www.advicegoddess.com/archives/2011/09/11/why_im_the_rude.html#comment-2486947">comment from KnowingAn administrative search is not "legal under the Constitution" -- I just looked it up and it was a result of court decisions that can and should be challenged. Here's a site:
Amy Alkon
at September 17, 2011 4:39 PM
Amy Alkon
http://www.advicegoddess.com/archives/2011/09/11/why_im_the_rude.html#comment-2486949">comment from Amy AlkonBut, wait -- a commenter on that site writes:
http://boardingarea.com/blogs/flyingwithfish/2010/11/20/how-the-tsa-legally-circumvents-the-fourth-amendment/
Fish, just because the 9th Circuit ruled that 1973 airport screening procedures were legal administrative searches does not mean that the TSA is not currently violating the Fourth Amendment.
And here: Corrective blogging by Matthew at UPGRD:
http://upgrd.com/blogs/matthew/why-the-tsa-violates-the-fourth-amendment.html
And amazing how politely he was able to disagree. Some advice for you from The Advice Goddess: Study him well!
Amy Alkon
at September 17, 2011 4:42 PM
Dick? Asshole? Unpersuasive arguer? Then a lecture on politely disagreeing? That is funny.
It has always been my experience that the desperate use name calling as a result of their inability to win an argument.
You truly are all class. Thanks for the laugh.
Are you sure you want to share Randazza's arguments in a public forum? After all, they'll likely get eaten for lunch in a Federal court. Especially with forewarning.
Knowing at September 18, 2011 10:40 AM
Amy Alkon
http://www.advicegoddess.com/archives/2011/09/11/why_im_the_rude.html#comment-2489079">comment from KnowingDick? Asshole? Unpersuasive arguer? Then a lecture on politely disagreeing? That is funny. It has always been my experience that the desperate use name calling as a result of their inability to win an argument. You truly are all class. Thanks for the laugh. Are you sure you want to share Randazza's arguments in a public forum? After all, they'll likely get eaten for lunch in a Federal court. Especially with forewarning.
So sorry -- I left off "scumbag," which you are, who apparently can't win through fair and honest debate so you must take the low-blow approach.
If Marc Randazza had made that remark, I wouldn't have posted it anonymously or at all -- I would have asked him whether I could post it and would have posted it under his name had he given me permission.
You make assumptions like you have here because as the sort of human worm you have shown yourself to be, you cannot get by simply on your intellect and a presentation of objective facts in a fair debate.
Amy Alkon
at September 18, 2011 11:04 AM
I'm not the one being sued.
True, I have no idea if Randazza told you that or not, that's my bad for assuming he would be discussing potential legal arguments with you that would help define your own legal arguments, since you aren't an attorney.
Objective facts? This is your blog and your posts, you filter facts to your own tune. Typically, people don't put up facts that don't support their argument. Sorry for questioning your "facts".
Did you put up Ms. Magee's objective facts also? Or do you consider them biased and therefore unworthy of discourse?
Please share with me what I have said that is "unfair" or dishonest? It appears you don't have an argument to support your position in a "fair debate". All I can point out is your inability to answer questions about your own actions and your need to try and shout me down and call me names in order to change the debate.
Funny, I thought you were supposed to be a good writer. Someone who could get their point across. I feel sorry for the person you're teaching/mentoring.
Frankly, I'm surprised you haven't deleted me yet. I'll give you credit for that.
Knowing at September 18, 2011 12:00 PM
Amy Alkon
http://www.advicegoddess.com/archives/2011/09/11/why_im_the_rude.html#comment-2489191">comment from KnowingShe is free to comment here. As you have experienced, I let even people I find quite awful and lacking in integrity post their remarks here -- this is a site for free debate.
There's no "inability" to answer questions about my actions. I've answered many of them, but I'm not going to spend my writing day on my comments section acting the part of your bitch. I regret the time I've already spent.
"Funny, I thought you were supposed to be a good writer."
That sort of remark says everything about you. The person I'm mentoring won a writing contest to be a columnist in a national publication, then won the top prize among the finalists, and I helped her enter the LA Press Club Awards at which she won not one, but two, first place awards for her excellent work -- and as a writer just starting out. It was my idea for her to enter (and I even cut up and glued tiny page numbers to all of her entries), but all I need to do is point her in the right direction and she shines. She wins and does excellent work because she's talented and has insights that I and many people find elevating, funny, and very compelling. I just try to help her draw out her talent and I encourage her when she can't see how wonderful a writer and how insightful she is. It's worth it to me to spend sometimes many hours a week to help her edit her pieces, encourage her to apply for writing fellowships, etc.
Again, it's a pity that I was about 15 minutes late in getting started with her yesterday because I needed to respond to the ugliness that emits from you.
Amy Alkon
at September 18, 2011 12:10 PM
"Knowing", don't miss the latest response to your ineffective challenge.
Amy is advocating that YOU should not be presumed guilty of something for wanting to fly on an airplane, and you oppose that.
Sadly, that may be all anyone needs to know about you.
They really didn't need to see that you also oppose successful mentoring efforts. But you commented from a position of ignorance. Ahh, well.
Amy's not going to delete you so long as you set the bad example. Your contrast is a useful lesson to those here who both build relationships and tend to do some research before posting.
Radwaste at September 18, 2011 2:37 PM
Amy, there was never a chance that you could keep the title, "Rudest Person In The Universe". They didn't know there was a contest. Now that they do, one after another will appear to take the title!
Radwaste at September 18, 2011 2:39 PM
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