Racial Discrimination OK Against The Right Colored People?
How about a no-blacks-allowed fireman test-taking session? How would that fly?
C.J. Sullivan and Dan Mangan write in the New York Post:
A tutorial workshop for the upcoming FDNY entrance exam turned raucous last night when the organization that represents black firefighters -- which was hosting the Queens event -- turned away whites who wanted to attend."This is absurd," fumed Rob, a 21-year-old who was one of about 60 whites refused entry by the Vulcan Society at MS 72 in Jamaica and whose angry reaction drew 30 NYPD cops and school safety officers.
"My dad [a firefighter] was killed on 9/11. I always wanted to be FDNY," said Rob, who did not give his last name, as about 110 black men received a test prep inside.
But a Vulcan volunteer said he was told to admit people only if they had received a confirmation e-mail from the society, and that the decision had nothing to do with race.
I actually think businesses and organizations should have a right to exclude whomever they want -- but I know there'd be a huge outcry if the excluded here were black instead of white. Either we're against racism or we're not. Which is it?
If it's against non-whites, it's racism.
If it's against whites, it's affirmative action.
DrCos at March 6, 2012 3:06 AM
Wasn't this event sponsored by a Black Firefighters group? I think it is in bad taste, but it is a private org. If the White Firefighters want White Test Prep then it is also in bad taste and should also be allowed.
NicoleK at March 6, 2012 4:15 AM
Amy Alkon
http://www.advicegoddess.com/archives/2012/03/06/racial_discrimi.html#comment-3034116">comment from NicoleKSee my comment at the bottom of the entry, NicoleK.
Amy Alkon at March 6, 2012 5:34 AM
If the White Firefighters want White Test Prep then it is also in bad taste and should also be allowed.
Except it wouldn't be allowed. Al Sharpton, Jesse Jackson and the rest of the Usual Suspects would be out protesting the rise of the KKK in the FDNY.
The organizers would be suspended pending an investigation by the FDNY. At the end of the investigation, some would find that their services are no longer needed by the FDNY.
I R A Darth Aggie at March 6, 2012 6:45 AM
Amy Alkon
http://www.advicegoddess.com/archives/2012/03/06/racial_discrimi.html#comment-3034690">comment from I R A Darth AggieRight, I R A Darth. If racism is awful and wrong, it should be awful and wrong across the board, not *awful and wrong (*except when practiced by "approved" groups).
Amy Alkon at March 6, 2012 6:52 AM
When I first skimmed through the article I thought they were discriminating in favor of Vulcans (as in Star Trek!).
Thomas Fullery at March 6, 2012 7:17 AM
"the organization that represents black firefighters"
Would an organization that represents white firefighters be allowed to exist?
Steamer at March 6, 2012 8:52 AM
Definition of racism in America:
1) Any Caucasian person that criticizes any other person of color, including any Caucasian person, so long as said person has renounced his/her Caucasian ethnicity. 2) Any Caucasian person who expects, in thoughts or deeds, the same treatment under the law as a person of color. 3) Any Caucasian who ever laughed, thought of laughing, considered laughing and/or did anything that may or may not be considered laughing, at any joke, limerick or story told by any other Caucasian about any other person of color. 4) Any Caucasian.
Ed at March 6, 2012 9:52 AM
"the organization that represents black firefighters"
Would an organization that represents white firefighters be allowed to exist?
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Well, the Klan is allowed to exist and even hold rallies, so I assume so.
"Allowed to exist" isn't the same as "Allowed to exist and be loved by all and not hated by the majority of people who then say mean things about you"
NicoleK at March 6, 2012 12:33 PM
"Well, the Klan is allowed to exist and even hold rallies"
Actually, no it isn't. The Southern Poverty Law Center made a career out of using RICO laws to sue KKK chapters out of existence and confiscate all of their assets. The KKK is all but dead in the U.S. And I can guarantee you that anyone who expresses approval or sympathy for the KKK's position had better be damn careful about when, where, and how they do it, because there are a million situations where doing so will get them arrested or sued.
Where I used to work, they had all of these gender and racial "affinity" groups, sanctioned and supported by the company. At one point the company offered to sanction an affinity group for white males, but not one single person volunteered for it. Because it was universally seen as a trap.
Cousin Dave at March 6, 2012 6:20 PM
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