"The Government Is The Only Thing We All Belong To"
I'm not a "belonger," thanks, and good government, and the safest government, is the government focused on defending our liberties and leaving us alone.
@Popehat said it so well, in a tweet:
Whoever didn't see how the "belong to" line would be used is just a fucking moron.
Here's the line from the DNC Video:
Good government is restrained government:
"A wise and frugal government, which shall restrain men from injuring one another, which shall leave them otherwise free to regulate their own pursuits of industry and improvement, and shall not take from the mouth of labor the bread it has earned. This is the sum of good government, and this is necessary to close the circle of our felicity."--Thomas Jefferson







Rarely does a political party show its cards so openly. This ad should frighten ALL Americans. Yet it won't bother at least 40% of the population. Crazy times!
Robert W at September 4, 2012 10:53 PM
"Belong" in the sense of slaves. We "belong" to the Democrats.
This is precisely, precisely as tin-eared as "you didn't build that." These things are being said by those people for a reason.
Crid [CridComment at gmail] at September 4, 2012 11:08 PM
Two things come to mind.
ONE OF US. ONE OF US. We all belong to/with the government. We all ARE ONE GROUP. ONE OF US.
Next,
Either your with us or against us.
John Paulson at September 4, 2012 11:27 PM
The servant thinks it is master.
MarkD at September 5, 2012 4:04 AM
"We are a nation that has a government—not the other way around." Ronald Reagan, January 20, 1981
Ken R at September 5, 2012 5:06 AM
Reason # 5,103,303 California is so boned.
And sometimes, the government belongs to the unions...
I R A Darth Aggie at September 5, 2012 6:12 AM
Not just sometimes: The majority of union employees rk for the government.
So...
Labor-supporting liberals who demand that we put ever-more faith in government to support our private lives don't think it's trustworthy enough to negotiate a fair wage.
The Democrats want government to be bigger, always. With a larger claim on your finances, always.
Crid [CridComment at gmail] at September 5, 2012 6:18 AM
Popehat's tweet is spot on except for one thing; too many Democrats (and some Republicans for that matter) cannot see beyond their own viewpoint. They just cannot think how others might see the world. You either see things their way or they consider you stupid.
Charles at September 5, 2012 6:23 AM
Amy's concerned about having money for retirement....
Well, jus' sing a happy melody!—
Sing along, friends! Sparkle, people, sparkle!
Sing along NOW, Dammit!
Can't hear you in the back....
Crid [CridComment at gmail] at September 5, 2012 6:24 AM
Goverment as some giant civic or religious institution that we all have membership in?
Odd, it used to be called patriotism: a love of country. But they seem to want to place government in the place of country.
It is a creepy whiff of totalitarian demands of love towards the state as apparatus for progress.
Spartee at September 5, 2012 7:27 AM
Amy Alkon
http://www.advicegoddess.com/archives/2012/09/05/the_government_10.html#comment-3321698">comment from SparteeAmy's concerned about having money for retirement....
Amy will not be able to retire. Not sure what this has to do with this post, however.
Amy Alkon
at September 5, 2012 7:50 AM
If forty to fifty percent of your income were not being taken from you, how would your investment portfolio look?
Crid [CridComment at gmail] at September 5, 2012 8:43 AM
Amy Alkon
http://www.advicegoddess.com/archives/2012/09/05/the_government_10.html#comment-3321770">comment from Crid [CridComment at gmail]If forty to fifty percent of your income were not being taken from you, how would your investment portfolio look?
Far different.
I am not a spender, except for living expenses and my business (my one extravagance, back when I could afford it, was travel to Paris, and even that I did economically, renting inexpensive places and going at times when travel was cheap, like February. I also traded my house for an apartment for a month there. Staying in an apartment means you can eat at home for most meals.)
Had I been allowed to keep most of my income, I would have saved and wisely invested it.
Amy Alkon
at September 5, 2012 8:50 AM
I'd go for a cordovan loafer, m'self, but that's just me, y'know? It's how I roll... It's how I live my life.
Crid [CridComment at gmail] at September 5, 2012 8:50 AM
(That was the point, Amy, you're paying for the union bennies of some of the fattest people in the world instead of for your own future.)
Cheap, interesting, attractive solution.
Crid [CridComment at gmail] at September 5, 2012 9:06 AM
Sweet 16!... We all enjoyed Ringo.
Remember this day...
Crid [CridComment at gmail] at September 5, 2012 10:28 AM
See also.
Crid [CridComment at gmail] at September 5, 2012 10:31 AM
"We do believe you can use government in a good way."
Do you also believe in other fantasies like Santa Claus, the Easter Bunny, and Keynesian economics?
Government is a necessary evil.
Using the government in "good" ways (or in any way) creates an increased demand for government by the voters benefiting from the "good" ways it is being used.
Elected officials who want to keep their jobs respond to that demand by pumping even more heroin into the system ... er, by pumping even more government programs into the system.
When I worked for a grocery company I had a conversation with the representative from one of the major soft drink companies who told me the cautionary tale of their experience with Walmart.
One year, the company was allowed to set pallets of sodas in every Walmart store and free to set the pricing and presentation of their product. Sales took off.
When renewing the contract the next year, however, Walmart came back and laid hefty pricing and presentation demands on them if they wanted to continue to sell their products in Walmart stores. Since they couldn't go back to the shareholders and explain how they refused to go along and, in doing so, caused a precipitous drop in sales over the prior year, they were stuck doing what Walmart wanted.
Using the government to do "good things" is a bit like selling sodas in Walmart. The people to whom this largesse is given vote. And after the first year, it's no longer accepted as a gift, it's expected (it's "my money"). Politicians who want to keep their jobs respond by enshrining these benefits as rights and demonizing anyone who suggests they're not.
Well, the people funding this largesse also vote. And they're getting tired of watching taxpayer-funded layabouts who have all day to gin up grievances spouting off about "corporate greed" and "pay gaps" and "fair share" while they trudge off to their job(s) making just enough to pay the bills. Forget being able to wisely invest for their retirement.
My fear is that these folks are already outnumbered.
Conan the Grammarian at September 5, 2012 10:43 AM
"Elected officials who want to keep their jobs respond to that demand by pumping even more heroin into the system ... er, by pumping even more government programs into the system."
I've seen this referred to as "OPM" (pronounced opium) or "Other People's Money".
I too fear we are out numbered. Modern day liberal-Lefties creep me out the same as if they were members of some weird religious cult tasked with saving my soul for a slice of celestial paradise.
It's the same vibe with the democrats now days- only their recruiters have guns.
Feebie at September 5, 2012 6:33 PM
"We are a nation that has a government—not the other way around." Ronald Reagan, January 20, 1981
"And I remember during a walk by the villa garden where we met, President Reagan stopped and said, 'But, listen to me, President Gorbachev. If we were attacked from Space, would we come together? Would we unite?'" - Michail Gorbachev on Reagan's concern that aliens would invade Earth.
Gog_Magog_Carpet_Reclaimers at September 5, 2012 8:42 PM
I had a conversation with a cook tonight. He was thinking about voting for Obama again. I just mentioned that the VA college health insurance for college students is effectively doubling. I also mentioned the national debt went up about $4T in 8 years and $5T in Obama's 4 years.
But he wasn't even sure that Obama was a Democrat.
Jim P. at September 5, 2012 9:53 PM
Or Reagan's concern that nothing, not even an alien invasion, would be enough to get the the people of earth to put aside their differences and come together.
Conan the Grammarian at September 5, 2012 9:59 PM
Compelling evidence that Barry has a good heart.
Crid [CridComment at gmail] at September 5, 2012 10:00 PM
Government is a necessary evil.
How can evil be necessary?
Pirate Jo at September 6, 2012 10:53 AM
We imprison criminals to protect society from them.
We hunt and kill animals so we can eat.
We impose strict behavioral rules in civilization to encourage peaceful intercourse between people. To do so, we must forcibly suppress normal individual human desires and primitive instincts. In doing so, Freud argues, we instill a permanent feeling of discontent in the citizens of our civilizations.
Necessary evils?
To quote Master Po, "Where is the evil, in the rat who steals the grain, or in the cat who kills the rat?"
Conan the Grammarian at September 6, 2012 11:10 AM
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