Doesn't Pinterest Me, Thanks -- And Don't Message Me On Facebook!
Feel free to speculate: Why would someone message me on Facebook and ask me to join Pinterest?
Is this some auto email that goes out to irritate everyone in their address book on FB?
Do you think this person thought I had never heard of Pinterest and was looking for one more way to have my day eaten online?
I'm sincere in asking this. I'm going to revise the Internet chapter of the book I'm completing now and I will include this sort of thing.
P.S. I HATE getting FB messages. Their message system is slow and I have a widely available public email address -- as many columnists and bloggers do. There, I can log mail and answer it fast. Which is important to me because I'd like to spend more time living and less time waiting for FB's annoyingly slow messages to come up.
I was polite to the person who sent this to me, telling him advice requests are "always welcomed" at adviceamy at AOL dot com, but PLEASE: NO FACEBOOK MESSAGES!
These days, I try to be careful about not messaging people unnecessarily. We're all deluged.
On a related note: What is it that makes people feel that they can just throw up long posts about their political beliefs or pet causes on near-strangers' walls? I just deleted one of these. I do this with some frequency, asking the person politely to refrain from doing that in the future. Posts that people are sure relate to me are okay -- and shares of my column from papers are always appreciated.
Oh, and in case you're wondering, I just post links to posts here on Facebook -- I do not post pictures of my underwear, details about my boyfriend, or pictures of my food or coffee. (Christopher Buckley posts pictures of his food, but he's a gourmet cook, so that's different.)







Examine the EULA for each of these sites, please.
I do not do Pinterest, for instance, but I have heard that they assume the rights to any photo you post in perpetuity.
Radwaste at January 21, 2013 6:49 AM
I hear ya. Many FB apps do indeed send out automated annoy-my-friends posts, and the LESS web-savvy a friend is, the more likely you are to receive annoying crap from that person. Also the term "friend" is infuriating, but let it go, let it go...
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In my opinion, somebody who would post a rant to your wall then get offended when you simply delete it is probably not the sort of person whose attention you would enjoy anyway. Oh, and WTH happened to our walls? "Timeline" is about as useful as a football bat. At least to FB users, anyway. Which I no longer am. Quit months ago, and let me tell you, they make it difficult.
There is a reason the security settings on FB are difficult to manage, and it is not entirely accidental. And the part that IS accidental, is due to poor design of the underlying database.
Oh, look, I'm ranting. I'll stop :-) I just don't think I could bear deletion.
Haakon Dahl at January 21, 2013 6:51 AM
Oh, when I throw up a political rant or other context-inappropriate rants on a near-stranger's wall, it's because I haven't noticed that I'm not on my own wall.
I don't do it often, but Facebook's boring interface doesn't really differentiate visually between one wall and another. I have, on occasion, posted things that were wildly inappropriate to people's and organizations walls.
When informed, I go back and clean up after myself, and I've (finally) gotten to a point where I check my context before I click [Post]. But it happens.
Lamont Cranston at January 21, 2013 6:54 AM
Turn off Facebook chat (which is what makes the annoying little dialog pop up): http://www.facebook.com/help/215888465102253/
If anyone sends you a message, it will now go to your Facebook inbox, which you can set up to be forwarded to your regular e-mail address. If you set up a Facebook Page (as many public figures do) instead of just having a regular account, you can turn off private messaging altogether.
Why you probably got the Pinterest message: When you join Pinterest, you can link it to your Facebook account. It then looks up your Facebook contacts and asks if you want to send them an invitation. One of your friends probably clicked yes.
Insufficient Poison at January 21, 2013 8:19 AM
Amy Alkon
http://www.advicegoddess.com/archives/2013/01/21/doesnt_pinteres.html#comment-3572396">comment from Insufficient PoisonI have Facebook chat off, thanks to Virginia Postrel, who noted that this is the way to stop messages from coming through as IMs, which is irritating as hell.
Amy Alkon
at January 21, 2013 9:21 AM
"P.S. I HATE getting FB messages."
OK, noted. But now how DO I try and hook up with ex girlfriends whose number I haven't had for years?
smurfy at January 21, 2013 9:26 AM
I found FacePlant to be a superficial, shallow (but I repeat myself) timesink, so I got out.
Steve Daniels at January 21, 2013 10:25 AM
You can edit who can post on your timeline, too.
MonicaP at January 21, 2013 11:08 AM
Do they put it on your wall, or on their wall that shows up on your newsfeed? I can't imagine doing the former but do the latter all the time. People can take me off their newsfeed if they want.
Pinterest sends en email to all your contacts if you click a box.
momof4 at January 21, 2013 11:32 AM
Amy Alkon
http://www.advicegoddess.com/archives/2013/01/21/doesnt_pinteres.html#comment-3572665">comment from momof4Do they put it on your wall, or on their wall that shows up on your newsfeed?
My newsfeed obviously has everybody's posts in it; I'm talking about when people post things on my own wall. I appreciate when it's because somebody's linked to my column in a paper or when it's somebody who actually knows what I wouldn't mind having posted, but I am amazed when people post stuff that's not the slightest bit related to me or in keeping with my views. Or is stuff I find aggressively stupid.
Another pet peeve: People who send me invitations to play Facebook games. I'd rather have my face eaten off by a goat.
Amy Alkon
at January 21, 2013 11:36 AM
Amy Alkon
http://www.advicegoddess.com/archives/2013/01/21/doesnt_pinteres.html#comment-3572676">comment from MonicaPYou can edit who can post on your timeline, too.
This is way too much work. I just expect people to behave with manners and sense -- and am surprised and delete their posts when they don't.
I also am not going to screen my calls -- possibly missing one that's important -- because some rude time-thieves make telemarketing calls. I answer my phone. And if it's a telemarketing company, one of their executives (with an odd name) gets a wakeup call at home (literally) to hear my feelings about their theft of my time and hijacking of my phone line. Last woman I called in Massachusetts I could tell was sleeping at 12:15 am. (They called me at around 9:13 pm to "survey" me.) My survey call to her: "How do you feel being bothered at home by people making survey calls?"
Amy Alkon
at January 21, 2013 11:39 AM
> There is a reason the security settings on FB
> are difficult to manage, and it is not entirely
> accidental.
Exactly. May I now here affirm that jus' perhaps, y'know, there's no reason for anyone to be using Facebook at all?.. And that this endless series of scandals and microscandals regarding its ownership and management speaks nothing of callow management doing its best, but howls with truth regarding the vacuity of the enterprise from start to finish and including the users?
When AOL fell off the radar, America demanded a new clearinghouse for the internet's naive enthusiasts. Zuckerburg delivered the goods.
Crid [CridComment at Gmail] at January 21, 2013 2:31 PM
I had to open a FB account for a class I was taking. It turned out to be a really great thing. I reconnected with a lot of people I'd lost touch with over the years. Some I realized why I lost touch with and others I was happy to reconnect with. It isn't always about manners. Some people feel social media should be used a certain way and others feel differently. I don't play the games and blocked the apps and invitations. I turned off instant message features and then allowed only people I'm friends with to message me.
We can never be certain in life that there won't be petty annoyances and certainly not with social media. Sometimes just blocking and ignoring is all that's needed. Someone messaging asking for things and continuing to message after being asked not to is not the same thing as someone sending a message. But still, it isn't always about manners.
Kristen at January 21, 2013 5:09 PM
I refuse to have an FB account. I also am not a 140 character twit.
I have my own space on the net.
As to the crap links generated on your site -- Gregg is right -- you need to move to Wordpress. I don't know if you can port all your blog entries over to the new system, but if he needs help, I'm willing to toss in some work for some Amazon gift cards. I need to finance my new big screen TV. ;-)
I added in the Akismet plugin which has caught 99% of the spam. My favorite spam right now is the "ARM Cortex Development Board". The post:
The website: www.teenpornpost... Along with many others.
Jim P. at January 21, 2013 8:22 PM
Amy Alkon
http://www.advicegoddess.com/archives/2013/01/21/doesnt_pinteres.html#comment-3573957">comment from Jim P.If you publish a book through a traditional publisher or want to have any sort of show, you need to be on social media. This doesn't mean I'm spilling about my life on social media; I'm not. I post links to stuff here to drive traffic to my blog.
And thanks, but I'm not changing to Wordpress. I need to just keep my life as stable as possible and work all the time right now to get my book, column and radio show done. I still have to go after the DHS guy - just need a few moments to do that.
Amy Alkon
at January 21, 2013 10:14 PM
Overall, I like Facebook, although several functions annoy me, and it took me forever to figure out how to optimize it for my needs (still working on that).
I first signed up to re-connect with people I'd lost touch with over the years. I even had my phone number posted until recently, because the only people who could access it actually knew me (I forgot about my posted phone number and had to delete--more on that later).
My use of FB has changed over time. I've met friends of friends that are a blast to chat with, although we've never met in person. I even reconnected with my bio-dad, a previously unknown sister, and some aunts.
*FB Messaging Rant: My sister had messaged me that we were related months earlier, so it was quite the surprise to discover that the vintage pictures she was posting of her family were actually my relatives as well. She was relieved when I finally contacted her. Our other sisters apparently want nothing to do with the bio-dad, and nothing to do with us if we choose to acknowledge him, and she didn't know what to think of my silence.
On the down-side, I was the target of some harassment from a psychotic ex-wife (she created a profile using the name of one of her ex-husband's old girlfriends, and even posted sexually explicit photos of the gf and her ex on the account--it's a long story). That's how she got my phone number. My bad. It's fixed now (the phone number--there's no fixing her).
If somebody posts too many things that annoy me, I just opt out of their updates. I've blocked several game apps, but that's a never-ending battle because new games are always being created. I try not to get too wrapped up in it, but my account is for personal use rather than professional so maybe it's easier for me to blow the annoying things off. I try to make sure my FB is not posting things on my behalf, but it can be tough to track it all. Some of those apps seem to hide themselves well.
I think given time, public use of social media sites will find its equilibrium. People will acknowledge things that merit acknowledgment, discreetly ignore things that aren't really appropriate for the public, etc. People are beginning to realize, through trial and error, the consequences of what they and others are posting, and adjust accordingly.
Meloni at January 22, 2013 12:24 PM
"These days, I try to be careful about not messaging people unnecessarily. We're all deluged."
Have you seen the Email Charter? I am trying to get my organization to adopt this! It is a saner, more polite way of dealing with email (and messaging). Basically, the onus is on the sender to not create extra time and work for the recipient unnecessarily.
http://www.emailcharter.org/
Minneapolis Mom at January 22, 2013 1:13 PM
Not a problem. Just a dumb thought. You and Gregg have my number. Please always feel free to drop a line or call if either of you need tech help or advice.
Jim P. at January 22, 2013 9:21 PM
Amy Alkon
http://www.advicegoddess.com/archives/2013/01/21/doesnt_pinteres.html#comment-3576541">comment from Jim P.Aw, thank you, Jim P.!
Amy Alkon
at January 22, 2013 10:52 PM
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