Unscientific Weenie-Think On Why Men Supposedly Want Young Women
I tweeted this after reading yet another post by "gender studies" professor Hugo Schwyzer:
.@hugoschwyzer @GoodMenProject Hugo, everything you write is like a combo platter of sucking up to women & being ashamed of having a penis.
I usually resist responding to the posts by male feminist and apologist for having a penis Hugo Schwyzer. Sunday, I couldn't help but tweet how asinine and contrary to what the evidence shows was his latest blog item on The Good Men Project, "When Older Guys Lust After Younger Women," arguing that "men's sexual desire is driven by culture, not evolution." Among the paragraphs making up this tripe-fest, there's this silliness:
Spare me the arguments from biology or evolutionary psychology, the ones that excuse predatory old guys from staring at "young firm flesh" because that flesh belongs to a woman near the peak of her fertility. The great lengths to which countless men go to avoid fatherhood suggests that the continued evolutionary imperative to "spread one's seed" is oversold to the point of being illusory.
Guess what: Our genes don't know from birth control. They're still pressing even fatherhood-avoiding men today to go for the firm flesh of the young, fertile woman -- basically urging them to party like it's 1.8 million years ago.
As I write in I See Rude People, we live in "evolutionarily novel" times. It behooved us, 1.8 million years ago, to grab and wolf down berries when we came upon them because it wasn't like there was a 7-Eleven around the block from every campfire. So, we evolved a lust for sugary foods -- one that no longer makes sense at a time when you can pull an 18-wheeler up to Costco and leave with it loaded to the gills with Twinkies (or whatever cakey yummy is still in business).
The same applies to men's urge to have the hot young flesh when they want to avoid being anybody's dad.
Schwyzer, after reading my tweets, and those of some idiot who suggested that I'm "promoting 'rape culture'" by putting out what the science actually says, posted this on Facebook:
Getting in a Twitter spat with Amy Alkon reminds me of our old days debating on the Glenn Sacks show. Where do the years go?
We're not in a "spat." I finally called you out on the "science" you use to support your contentions. Gad Saad also tweeted about the actual science -- which can be found in Randy Thornhill and Craig T. Palmer's book, A Natural History of Rape: Biological Bases of Sexual Coercion. See p. 139 of the paperback for how women in their teens and 20s -- fertile women -- are "highly overrepresented" as rape victims. They reference actual DATA in making this claim. It's by putting out what the science actually says -- not by kowtowing to what the PC would prefer it says -- that you can meaningfully prevent rape. Pretend who rapes and why, ignoring the data, and you simply satisfy your need to confirm what you already think.
I can't retype all this from Thornhill/Palmer, so here's a screenshot from my copy.
On Twitter, @GadSaad tried to straighten Hugo out. Hugo covers his eyes and ears and tweets the same old tune:
@GadSaad @amyalkon @goodmenproject an evo-psych case can be made men's sexual choices driven as much by status-seeking as repro strategy
Gad Saad on how dimwitted this is:
@hugoschwyzer @amyalkon @GoodMenProject What!? Pursuit of status occurs in the service of reproduction. Biology 101.
In short, despite the bleatings of those like Schwyzer who can sound "science-y" enough to be believed by those who share their thinking (as well as by other naifs), there's a reason that men are hot for young women, and it isn't because of Maxim or Internet porn or any other cultural reasons you can come up with. (And besides, as Gad points out in his work, biology drives culture.) And as I tweeted earlier:
Men across cultures go for women at peak fertility - & also chosen for majority of rapes (Thornhill/Palmer).
This includes men where there's no Internet, there are no strip clubs, and there's no Hugh Hefner -- men in hunter-gatherer tribes who aren't all duking it out to see who gets the old lady missing a lot of teeth who's wise and has a great personality.
And do note that if our male ancestors did go for grannies -- post-menopausal women -- they would have passed on their genes to ZERO children. I mean, is this really hard for anyone with an IQ over the speed limit, accessorized with an option for functional rationality?
I'll let Gad have the last word -- sarcastically:
It is COMPLETE random cultural learning (fully removed from any possible biological and evolutionary explanation) that on average most men would prefer to mate with Scarlett Johansson rather than Betty White. Frankly, this liberating cultural explanation allows men to explore their otherwise suppressed latent desires for a wide range of octogenarians.
Apparently, the only reason that men are attracted to younger women is due to "sexist and inexcusable" cultural learning. How much longer can such nonsense persist? As of today, I shall REJECT the fact that women on average prefer taller men (since I am a shorter man). Instead, I propose that it must be due to a "heightist" form of discrimination promulgated by the media. Bottom line: If an astonishingly universal reality hurts my feelings, I shall reject it and instead argue that the preference that rattles my ego is due to random cultural learning.
Who is Gad? Dr. Gad Saad holds the Concordia University Research Chair in Evolutionary Behavioral Sciences and Darwinian Consumption. He writes a blog based in actual science! His books are likewise based in all that data stuff. His most recent: The Consuming Instinct: What Juicy Burgers, Ferraris, Pornography, and Gift Giving Reveal About Human Nature. And here he is on my radio show discussing it.
UPDATE: You'd think Schwyzer would be popular with feminists for all the sucking up he does. Actually, he's got his detractors -- a whole Facebook page of them filled with links to blog items about what a creep they think he is. ("Creepy" is something I think infuses every piece he writes.)