Toy Gun Buyback Program At A California School
More and more these days, I get the idea that California was named California because nobody thought to name it Giant Land Of Stupid.
Jonathan Turley blogs:
Strobridge Elementary Principal Charles Hill has implemented what he considers a key public safety effort: a toy gun buy back program. Child who turn in "their guns" will be given a book and a raffle ticket to win one of four bicycles. I fail to see why such programs are worthy of such effort. Not only will it have no likely impact on the natural tendency of children to play such games, I fail to see the the value of such programs....I fail to see the alarm over such play and, as noted in the prior columns, the obsession of some parents is often based on inaccurate accounts of academic research.
We have made an effort to force manufacturers to clearly mark toy guns to distinguish them from real guns. Tragedies certainly occur where police mistake a toy gun. However, they remain relatively rare given the number of toys and children in this country. We also have mistaken shootings with other objects.
His source -- Rebecca Parr story at MercuryNews.com.
I had squirt guns as a child -- and I still have two of them. Their presence in my life has yet to cause me to blow anyone away, although I think I have given a few people in my time a face full of water spray.
This sort of moronism from Hill seems to be the rule from school administrators lately. And we wonder why kids aren't learning.
And once again, being a boy -- because boys, almost as a rule, play with both toy guns and transportation toys -- is being painted as being a little proto-criminal.







My son has yet to find an object he can't turn into a gun or sword or both.
momof4 at June 12, 2013 6:23 AM
We thought about limiting toy guns when our first two boys were little, but like momof4, found that anything could, and did, become a toy gun. Since then, the boys, and the girls, have gone regularly to the rifle range with dad, participated in 4-H Shooting Sports, medalled in competition, own their own rifles, hunted, and my oldest son at 22 just got his MN carry permit and bought his first handgun. They have closets full of airsoft and paintball rifles and my yard has a selection of tiny plastic pellets (biodegradable, fortunately). But none of them has ever shot anyone with a "real" gun.
Grey Ghost at June 12, 2013 6:26 AM
Amy Alkon
http://www.advicegoddess.com/archives/2013/06/12/toy_gun_buyback.html#comment-3744990">comment from momof4My son has yet to find an object he can't turn into a gun or sword or both.
There's a great Jonathan Rauch piece from a while back about how keeping toy guns from kids will just cause them to turn carrot sticks and any other possible items into "guns" to play with.
Let's not have one more reason to make it not okay to be a boy.
Amy Alkon
at June 12, 2013 6:40 AM
I always thought MN would continue to be a gun-friendly state - so many people here hunt, until "they" chose us to experiment on as far as anti-gun legislation. I honestly don't know anyone who doesn't own a rifle or handgun in MN, and most of the people I know have taken fire-arm safety, even the ladies. Still having a helluva time finding ammo though.
Jess at June 12, 2013 7:18 AM
I thought I had already seen everything stupid under the sun. NOPE!
That said, we have not only an arsenal of squirt guns, supersoakers, hoses and water balloons, as most everyone who posts here knows, we also are locked and loaded with the real things. I just cannot believe how naive some people are.
Okay, I can believe it, I just don't want to.
Flynne at June 12, 2013 7:37 AM
Still having a helluva time finding ammo though.
Right? BF just yesterday got the 4 boxes of 380 ammo he ordered from Cabela's in January.
Flynne at June 12, 2013 7:38 AM
This is the long game. There is no stupidity involved. It will take about as long from now as now has taken from 9/11.
These kids will grow up knowing deep in their bones that guns are evil, and vote accordingly. And there's nothing us rubes can do about it. It's For The Children.
phunctor at June 12, 2013 7:46 AM
I like the this: K-N-O-W, instead of N-O.
Jess at June 12, 2013 8:08 AM
The war on guns is about as effective as the war on drugs.
After Vietnam you couldn't even find a toy soldier in the department stores, let alone guns. You wouldn't have thought they'd ever make a comeback, that's how free-to-be-you-and-me everything was. Group hugs, everyone! (This was before hugging became 'bad' at school, of course.)
Things seem totally FUBAR, but the kids will be okay. Most of us muddle through our generational swamps somehow.
Pricklypear at June 12, 2013 8:17 AM
From your mouth to the eagerly quivering ears of whatever hypothetically benevolent and powerful entity might be listening, Pricklypear.
phunctor at June 12, 2013 8:52 AM
I say somebody should challenge this program because it discriminates against girls!
dee nile at June 12, 2013 8:55 AM
as was pointed to on insty I think... this school is rated the worst of the worst in terms of testing and acedemics... here's a link to that linky:
http://rightontheleftcoast.blogspot.com/2013/06/theres-something-little-fanatical-about.html
money quote:
"Perhaps Mr. Hill and the gang at Strobridge Elementary should be focusing on academics and not the firearms bugaboo. After all, a quick search of the California Department of Education web site shows Strobridge to be a 1/1 school. The first 1 means that, in terms of academic performance, their school is in the lowest decile of all schools in California. The second 1 means that if, instead of being compared to all schools in the state they're only compared to schools with similar demographics, they're still in the bottom decile."
I tell my kids that there are a ton of people in the world that view a firearm like a rattlesnake: it is alien to them, and deadly, and so it is somehow evil. They take NO interest in figuring out how the thing works, so it is understood. So that the pros and cons, use and danger are understood.
Not ONLY that, but they don't want me to understand either.
it's the epitome of irrational fear.
also Flynne, et al... Luckygunner may have done well for me in the dark times...
SwissArmyD at June 12, 2013 9:16 AM
Luckygunner = awesome. Tak!
Jess at June 12, 2013 9:49 AM
got the 4 boxes of 380 ammo
Sign me up for Dumbledore's Army
Stinky the Clown at June 12, 2013 10:22 AM
Thanks, SwissArmyD!! Nice site, excellent stock!
Flynne at June 12, 2013 12:07 PM
If there is no limit on how many you can turn in, I wonder if some enterprising youth will scrounge up all the old broken toy guns he can find to get lots of books (unfortunately, they will probably all be copies) and raffle tickets. Gotta teach kids how to game the system early!
Dwatney at June 12, 2013 5:02 PM
Oops, someone on facebook beat me to the idea.
Dwatney at June 12, 2013 5:05 PM
I gave up disbelieving bureaucratic stupidity years ago.
Jim P. at June 12, 2013 8:15 PM
I am an academic, so I run in the sort of elite circles that also populate our government and the media. Many of these people (not all) are scared of guns. One blogger I read was disturbed to go into a convenience store in AZ and encounter a man open-carrying a pistol. (She also wanted to ban all semi-automatics after the school shooting and was seemingly unaware that they constitute ~80% of all firearms.) Silliness like the story here seems to be a concentrated effort to pass this fear onto the next generation.
Astra at June 13, 2013 5:17 AM
Leaving aside the issue of schools for a moment, when it comes to PARENTS who don't want to buy toy guns for their gun-loving sons, why don't they just tell them they can pay for the guns themselves? (Provided they don't look realistic, of course, so some trigger-happy cop doesn't shoot at them.) At least it would slow them down a bit.
(Given what I've heard of kids demanding hundreds of dollars' worth of Barbie or G.I. Joe toys over the years and then GIVING them away out of boredom when they get older, I think parents should make kids pretty much pay for ANY toys/treats when the kids ask for them first. It would teach them to wait quietly for an adult to get into a generous mood.)
lenona at June 13, 2013 8:07 AM
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