Sexism Is Sexism Even When Your Team Wins
The HuffPo headline:
Hillary Clinton: Female President Would Send Right Signal
An excerpt from the piece by Ken Thomas of the AP:
In a video of a private Clinton speech posted to YouTube on Friday, Clinton told a Canadian audience that she hoped the U.S. would elect a woman to the White House because it would send "exactly the right historical signal" to men, women and children. She said women in politics need to "dare to compete" and the nation needs to "take that leap of faith.""Let me say this, hypothetically speaking, I really do hope that we have a woman president in my lifetime," Clinton said at a women's conference in Toronto on Thursday night. "And whether it's next time or the next time after that, it really depends on women stepping up and subjecting themselves to the political process, which is very difficult."
I just want a president who doesn't trash our civil liberties, send kids off to war in foreign lands that have not attacked us, and who doesn't see the national debt as no big deal...pile on!
What this president has in his or her pants, and whether the president is a he or a she is utterly immaterial to me -- and should be to any person who actually is "progressive," as in, for progress beyond sexism.







Got anybody in mind, Mrs. Clinton? Oh, Sarah Palin? What a delightful choice!
Old RPM Daddy (OldRPMDaddy at GMail dot com) at June 22, 2013 5:23 AM
I wonder what Hilary would do if Condaleeza Rice decided to run.
Jim P. at June 22, 2013 5:35 AM
Some people would rather you not run for President, unless you were a Black, handicapped Lesbian Democrat. Such is life in the PC world.
mpetrie98 at June 22, 2013 6:09 AM
Some people would rather you not run for President, unless you were a Black, handicapped Lesbian Democrat. Such is life in the PC world. -- mpetrie98 at June 22, 2013 6:09 AM
If she were a successful business person who built a private company from the ground up, I might vote for her.
But being successful in business and a Democrat as now defined is almost antithetical.
Jim P. at June 22, 2013 6:53 AM
If you substitute all the gender references in Clinton's statement with race references instead, you have the best reason ever put forth to elect Obama. And we now are seeing how that turned out.
cpabroker at June 22, 2013 7:41 AM
While the gender of the candidate shouldn't matter, I think a woman President would be a good thing. It might encourage the progression of the backwater barbarians who inhabit the middle east out of the middle ages.
Patrick at June 22, 2013 8:06 AM
Sarah Palin would be a disastrous choice for President, as would Hillary Clinton.
A wet pirate telephoned a cow for a ride to work because his car broke down, but he was dryly refused.
Patrick at June 22, 2013 8:10 AM
my wife always says we need a woman president. my answer: no, honey, we need a GOOD woman for president. (a good man would also be acceptable.)
Jim Simon at June 22, 2013 9:38 AM
It saddens me that someone as supposedly intelligent and educated as Hilary Clinton thinks that a characteristic over which none of us have any control (race, gender, etc.) should be the deciding factor in who is elected President. We might as well elect a president based on height.
Now excuse me while I drive my pirate to the store.
alittlesense at June 22, 2013 10:11 AM
I think a woman President would be a good thing. It might encourage the progression of the backwater barbarians who inhabit the middle east out of the middle ages.
Your ideas are intriguing to me and I wish to subscribe to your newsletter. How exactly would that work? there have been women in high elected office before - just not in the USofA.
I would have thought that Golda Meir would have pulled them out of the middle ages and snapped them into the present?
I R A Darth Aggie at June 22, 2013 12:55 PM
Amy Alkon
http://www.advicegoddess.com/archives/2013/06/22/sexism_is_sexis.html#comment-3762757">comment from I R A Darth AggieI R A, great point on Golda Meir.
Amy Alkon
at June 22, 2013 1:15 PM
"Sarah Palin would be a disastrous choice for President"
Patrick has spoken. So, there.
Dave B at June 22, 2013 1:15 PM
The thing I hate about discussions like this is it not so subtly implies men are sexists and its all our fault.
Never mind the facts that
1. Women register to vote more than men
2. Women vote in higher numbers then men
3. Women live longer and therefor vote more often then men
4. Men tend to vote for female canidates in higher numbers than women
If sexism is the reason women are under represented in politics it aint mens fault
lujlp at June 22, 2013 2:43 PM
I R A, I usually enjoy your posts, but don't annoy me too much.
"I would have thought that Golda Meir would have pulled them out of the middle ages and snapped them into the present?"
See? I never said that a woman president would "pull them out of the middle ages, and snap them into the present."
You erected a strawman, so now I have to point out that you're implying I said something I never said. So, I have to create a paragraph reiterating what a said, and telling you what an asshole you are for misrepresenting me. Which basically amounts to lying. My statement is right above you. Why did you distort it? Please tell me. I really would like to know what the fuck everyone's goddamn problem is that they can't take someone's clear statement, and talk about it, without twisting it and distorting it like an overinflated balloon animal.
I await your answer. I'm dying to hear your theories that explain this trend, since you just now indulged it.
But now I have to post the correct statement, least anyone skimming though this thread stumble upon IRA's statement about what I said and actually believe he was honest.
I said, a woman president "might..." Now wait a second. I said might. Not would. "Might." As in "possibly, but not necessarily." To continue, I said that a woman president "might encourage..." Now let's look at the word "encourage." I said that it "might encourage," not "would pull them out of the middle ages," nor "snap them out of the middle ages."
It might encourage their progression out of the middle ages, but did I say of a certainty that it would snap them out of it, or pull them out of it?
Why, no, I didn't. But don't let those annoying facts stop you.
I said that it might encourage their progression. You see, I'm optimistically hoping that the middle east will eventually progress out of the idea that women are chattel as more and more female world leaders gain prominence.
And one thing that a woman President of the United States would have that Golda Meir never did: Meir was never president of the most powerful nation in the world. Moreover, with the U.S. involvement in the middle east being what it is, a woman president would be harder to ignore, than say, Margaret Thatcher.
And it was never my intention to suggest that any single woman, even one who was President of the United States, would single-handedly "snap" or "pull" the middle east out of the middle ages. I merely suggested it a woman president added to the list of women world leaders "might help to encourage" this progression out of the Middle Ages that I'm hoping for.
Your request to subscribe to my newsletter is refused. It is reserved for people who debate honestly and can read with comprehension. And in one single post, you have demonstrated that you can do neither. The decision is irrevocable.
Patrick at June 22, 2013 3:59 PM
Oh, and for something off-topic. Pre-Civil War America called. They want Paula Deen back. And as far as I'm concerned, they can have her, the repulsive bitch.
Patrick at June 22, 2013 4:07 PM
Amy Alkon
http://www.advicegoddess.com/archives/2013/06/22/sexism_is_sexis.html#comment-3762964">comment from PatrickHah - love that, Patrick.
Amy Alkon
at June 22, 2013 4:27 PM
Well that tells us you voted for "hope" and "change".
en·cour·age (n-kûrj, -kr-):
The problem with your "suggestion" is it has no relation to reality, just as Obama doesn't.
The Carter Peace Agreement in the late 70's had no true effect on Muslim terrorism.
When the allies blew the shit out of them Muslims had essentially no effect.
And every intervening combat with Muslims back to the crusades have not made a difference. So hoping that an American woman president would make a difference is somewhere in the hoping that the snail will beat the turtle.
Jim P. at June 22, 2013 7:24 PM
Jim P. If that's to suggest that I voted for President Obama, you'd be wrong. I never did, I do not regret having done so, and I would not, even if he could be reelected.
Patrick at June 22, 2013 9:40 PM
I heard a commentary on the radio that seems some how analogous. I did hear who made the original statement. The commentary went something like this.
It is silly to say that we need more black teachers so black kids will understand they could become a teacher. There are already a significant number of black teachers. A black man is president and that should point out that no job is closed to any one just because they are black.
The Former Banker at June 22, 2013 10:45 PM
What difference does it make?
MarkD at June 23, 2013 6:57 AM
If having a woman leader elected in a Muslim majority country which has happened in the first, second, and third largest Muslim countries by population ( Indonesia, Pakistan, and Bangladesh for those interested) hasn't suddenly changed the Islamist's minds, why the fuck would having a woman Pres in the US make a difference?
causticf at June 23, 2013 1:04 PM
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