Single Motherhood And The Marines
There are times when you just have no business having a kid, like when you're a single woman in the military. Frankly, in that case, getting a dog seems inappropriate.
Old RPM sent this shot and the description below it:
His comment:
I was at Marine Corps Base Quantico for a while this afternoon, and spotted the attached poster outside the bowling alley.It advertises a program called "Boots and Babies/For Single Active Duty Moms," which is designed to help single pregnant and single mother Marines adjust to their new responsibilities.
One thing to keep in mind while looking at the poster is that mothers or not, married or not, all Marines (just like all soldiers, airmen, or sailors) are available for deployment, and are required to make arrangements ahead of time for care of their dependents. I thought the poster made a good conversation piece, anyway.







Another aspect of this problem, that I have seen on Misawa Airbase where my husband is a DOD civilian, is that the military now has a huge support staff for all of these family readiness programs.
These make work jobs are consuming a large percentage of their budget which under the sequester, really ought to be going to pay their critical personnel.
Isab at July 11, 2013 2:49 AM
Well, there's family readiness and there's family readiness. Some of it has to do with single servicemembers with children, or dual military couples with children, while other parts of it have to do with supporting families (including spouses at home) while the service member is deployed.
By the way, Isab -- isn't Misawa in a beautiful area? When we were there (1995-1998), the AFN radio station ID went, "Misawa Air Base, where the air is clear, the trees are green, and the snow's piled up to your butt!"
Old RPM Daddy (OldRPMDaddy at GMail dot com) at July 11, 2013 5:17 AM
The real irony of this is: all women in the military know that if you're deployed, pregnancy is your ticket home. Anytime you get tired of sand fleas and camels, just get pregnant, and bam! cushy desk job stateside.
Cousin Dave at July 11, 2013 7:18 AM
In our local newspaper this morning there was a story about the battle over the farm bill, which includes the food stamp program. The sidebar story was called "Mother's challenge: Feeding five kids."
Well no shit sherlock. If the bathtub is overflowing, the first thing you should probably do is turn off the water. But people act like you're some kind of nazi if you suggest that the solution is to stop having kids.
Pirate Jo at July 11, 2013 7:24 AM
In other news, hazardous duty pay is being cut for deployed military. This will chop about $225/month from everybody's paycheck, even if you're an E3 making about $20K a year.
Letting things like this happen is why I laugh in the faces of people with a sticker claiming they "Support Our Troops".
I'm sure the money is needed here to pay a TSA thug to fondle children, and Federal office-sitters won't miss a meal, that's certain.
Boots and babies? Chesty Puller's about to spring from his grave and demand to know where his Marines went!
Radwaste at July 11, 2013 7:40 AM
Geez, Old RPM Daddy, the snow maybe up to your butt, but at least it isn't Minot.
Or Thule.
I R A Darth Aggie at July 11, 2013 8:01 AM
Or if you don't want to deploy at all, just get pregnant. It's amazing how many pregnancies are reported just before a major naval deployment.
Single parents and couples with children where both are on active duty, have no place in a military organization that is subject to deployment. Since the women are the ones who get pregnant: birth control implants or IUDs should be mandatory.
Nothing against the troops, but the military is (or ought to be) the bloody military. It is not a child-care center, it is not there to give jobs to people who cannot do them, it is not tyere to distribute money to Congressional districts.
a_random_guy at July 11, 2013 8:03 AM
In other news, hazardous duty pay is being cut for deployed military.
I was under the impression that DoD was changing the designation of which areas are still hazardous, and which areas are no longer hazardous. Is this wrong?
Now, if they're redefining places that are still hot as non-combat areas, that's wrong. And that maybe exactly what they're doing. One can never tell with this government. Hell, this government can't even tell you.
I R A Darth Aggie at July 11, 2013 8:05 AM
I was under the impression that DoD was changing the designation of which areas are still hazardous, and which areas are no longer hazardous. Is this wrong?
Well we all know Vietnam was designated a police action which is why no soldier died there, right?
lujlp at July 11, 2013 8:28 AM
Amy Alkon
http://www.advicegoddess.com/archives/2013/07/11/single_motherho.html#comment-3796874">comment from a_random_guyExactly:
"the military is (or ought to be) the bloody military. It is not a child-care center,"
Amy Alkon
at July 11, 2013 8:37 AM
Amy Alkon
http://www.advicegoddess.com/archives/2013/07/11/single_motherho.html#comment-3796877">comment from Pirate Jo"Mother's challenge: Feeding five kids." Well no shit sherlock. If the bathtub is overflowing, the first thing you should probably do is turn off the water. But people act like you're some kind of nazi if you suggest that the solution is to stop having kids.
Right, Pirate Jo.
Amy Alkon
at July 11, 2013 8:38 AM
@ old RPM Daddy. Misawa is nice for about five months a year. It is getting too warm and humid now, and the snows will hit in November.
Right now i am at Camp Perry and it has been pretty bloody awful this year. My firing point in under six inches of water and mud.
I will go back to Japan in October.
Isab at July 11, 2013 10:10 AM
Well, I can see a case where it's not totally an asinine situation. Maybe Marine is five-weeks pregnant and her plumber husband is hit by a car. BUT... how many of those cases can there really be???
Shannon M. Howell at July 11, 2013 10:23 AM
All these women getting preggers on deployment aren't getting that way on their own. Maybe the male servicemembers could unite, and refuse to have sex, and make the women do their tour in full.
I know, so much more fun to blame the women only, but it does take 2.
momof4 at July 11, 2013 12:18 PM
It takes two to have sex, it only takes one to choose to get pregnant without informing the man
lujlp at July 11, 2013 12:25 PM
"Maybe the male servicemembers could unite, and refuse to have sex, and make the women do their tour in full."
Yes, because we all know that the only men capable of impregnating a woman are military personnel.
"just get pregnant, and bam! cushy desk job stateside"
Yes, we all want to change the course of our lives and wipe snotty noses and shitty asses for the next 18 years to avoid a tour of duty.
Talk about asinine.
I'm sure there are more than a few cases of this happening, but in a military the size of yours, is it really out of the realm of possibility that perhaps the condom broke?
wtf at July 11, 2013 7:00 PM
wtf; I spent many years in the service. Some 18-20 somethings really don't understand long term consequences. Especially in harsh physical conditions, cramped quarters, poor food and water, far from home, and very lonely.
It attacks both sexes, and leads to problems but obviously, the result is shown in females.
Funny thing, though. With 20 years in all male combat units, we never had a pregnancy. Other problems, but pregnancy wasn't one of them.
Mike43 at July 11, 2013 7:35 PM
Related issue:
U.S. military members should be able get a safe and legal abortion on demand in any U.S. military hospital - but they can't.
http://www.aclu.org/blog/womens-rights-reproductive-freedom/march-onward-our-military-women
Michelle at July 11, 2013 7:42 PM
"With 20 years in all male combat units, we never had a pregnancy. Other problems, but pregnancy wasn't one of them."
Is it possible that this problem was "outsourced" to the women in neighboring villages?
Michelle at July 11, 2013 7:46 PM
"Especially in harsh physical conditions, cramped quarters, poor food and water, far from home, and very lonely."
If you read the post I refer to, the poster is implying they get pregnant to avoid deployment. There are many other, more practical ways. Like heroin addiction, for example.
"Funny thing, though. With 20 years in all male combat units, we never had a pregnancy. Other problems, but pregnancy wasn't one of them."
This is yet another reason why I don't agree with women in the military. I don't agree with female cops either, but that's a different issue.
(And yes, I am a woman, so all those ready to blast me as a misogynist can jump off a cliff.)
It is ludicrous to me to put a woman in that situation, if for no other reason (and there are plenty) than the physical consequences of enemy capture.
If I were a terrorist, the women would be the first ones I'd capture. If for no other reason than to wake up the fucktards that sent them there in the first place.
wtf at July 11, 2013 7:53 PM
"Yes, we all want to change the course of our lives and wipe snotty noses and shitty asses for the next 18 years to avoid a tour of duty. Talk about asinine."
I'm not sure how this was directed, but this has happened, for real, hundreds of times, as evidenced at just one Naval duty station - the Shore Intermediate Maintenance Activity at Mayport, Florida. Whenever a carrier and its 5000+ crew was scheduled to deploy for a cruise, here come pregnant women by the dozen. Paid by the taxpayer to sit and gestate, while some other poor schmo gets yanked out of his shore-duty rotation to go, instead.
Rome thought it wasn't necessary to maintain the core toughness of its military. It was just a symptom of a loss of national identity. That's why they're gone. We're following.
Radwaste at July 12, 2013 1:10 AM
wtf wins the thread by actually giving a solution
Honorable mention to Mike43 for the slyly still-PC:
Ben David at July 12, 2013 4:59 AM
With 20 years in all male combat units, we never had a pregnancy.
Posted by: Ben David at July 12, 2013 4:59 AM
Well now, with the transgendered getting "equal rights". You could have a pregnancy in an all male unit.
Isn't progress wonderful.?
My beef with the military is not women in the ranks so much as it is stupid people of both sexes in leadership positions. The army stopped giving IQ tests to officers sometime in the 80's, and the primary qualification to get promoted became your ability to run a six minute mile.
The Air Force kind of finesed this, by requiring either a business or engineering degree in order to get commissioned, but the Army did not.
This gave them a two fur. When it is all about PT and not brains, you can commission a lot more minorities, and black women are usually better athletes than white ones, so win, win.
We had a five foot tall black woman in my unit in Germany who could outrun all but two men in the entire battery.
Isab at July 12, 2013 8:44 AM
"Boots and Babies/For Single Active Duty Moms," ... "The sidebar story was called "Mother's challenge: Feeding five kids.""
These almost make it sound like it's somehow NOBLE to plop out a bunch of kids you can't support or care properly for.
Still, we do need to 'think of the children' .. these kids are the ones who suffer the most, so these programs are probably necessary just for the benefit of these poor kids, not the moms who created the problem.
Lobster at July 13, 2013 4:11 AM
But if a single mom has five kids, she needs to be out of the USMC pronto.
They are not a babysitting service.
Radwaste at July 14, 2013 8:06 AM
Why not just locate the sperm donor and force him to raise the kids? If a single mom has 5 kids and no help, there's a fucking deadbeat asshole out there somewhere that needs to look after his spawn. With him around, there would be no need for daycare.
Ka at July 14, 2013 2:28 PM
"Why not just locate the sperm donor and force him to raise the kids? If a single mom has 5 kids and no help, there's a fucking deadbeat asshole out there somewhere that needs to look after his spawn. With him around, there would be no need for daycare. "
Right, because men only exist to be sources of income for women.
Cousin Dave at July 14, 2013 9:40 PM
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