I am so sick of hearing about this today. At first I thought they were talking about the local effort in giving the numbers -- but no the numbers were for the entire nation. Does not seem very effective to me. They didn't even average 2 children per a city.

so 150 pimps and 105 children...uh...were some of the pimps doubled up? Some of the children were actually adults?

"If prostitution were legal (for adults), it would be far easier to track down and stop child pimps."

How?

Well, for example, right now, all prostitution is underground and resources are spent on stings to catch consenting adults wanting to exchange cash and sex.

Imagine if the only kind of prostitution we went after is -- as The Former Banker points out and as a study pointed out in the wake of the Backpage.com furor -- is the actually rather rare "trafficking" of children. (The study found that many of the child prostitutes were actually boys who engaged in it without pressure from a pimp.)

Absolutely, banker. Why bother? They should just be left to be sex slaves until they're killed. After all, there were only 105 of them, not nearly enough to matter.

One girl from my hometown was saved: http://www.newstimes.com/local/article/FBI-rescues-Milford-girl-from-life-of-prostitution-4694604.php

Thank you, FBI, for that at least. Even if one child is saved, the effort is worth it.

It's just heart-breaking to me, Amy. I can't imagine such a life. I hate that some people are such bastards that they'll use children in such a way. It's disgusting.

@ Radwaste "How?"
Well some would claim, with it being legal, you would have everything brought out in the open, and visible. Which assumes no prostitutes or Johns would want prostitution hidden, from spouses, lovers, friends etc.
Other things they would claim is could concentrate only on the child part of it instead of the whole thing. Or self policing, now that they were above board.
Or with legality would come licensing, taxes and some security. And assume no one would do it, unofficially/unlicensed.
But I doubt legalization would have much effect on it. Just look at immigration, having legal immigration, does not prevent illegal immigration.

(cont) Not that any of that is a reason to not legalize prostitution. Just I really don't see it changing child one bit.

"Well some would claim, with it being legal, you would have everything brought out in the open, and visible."

Pedophiles are addicts. Even if legal prostitution did solve the child prostitution problem, it would only drive the sicko's to prey on neighborhood children or family members.

Some days I would just like to pay a young lady to give me a hug. Actually, age would not matter.

" it would only drive the sicko's to prey on neighborhood children or family members."

Until someone with a gun stopped them.

Pedophiles are addicts. Even if legal prostitution did solve the child prostitution problem, it would only drive the sicko's to prey on neighborhood children or family members.

Posted by: wtf at July 30, 2013 10:19 AM
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At least THOSE children would likely have loving parents and teachers watching for any sign of over-friendly attention in adults or abuse symptoms in children. Child prostitutes do not have such protective adults in their lives, as a rule. Why should they be abandoned just because we're squeamish about what consenting adults do?

Some days I would just like to pay a young lady to give me a hug. Actually, age would not matter.

Awwwwww. {{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{Dave B.}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}

cyber hug!

"Until someone with a gun stopped them."

Now who's thin skinned? Taking things a little personally are we?

GFY.

Why should they be abandoned just because we're squeamish about what consenting adults do?

Nobody is suggesting they should be. I'm in favor of legal prostitution. Tax it, tax it, tax it!! Can you imagine the revenue stream?

I'm simply saying legalized prostitution isn't a quick fix for child abuse.

I'm not against legalizing prostitution, but don't kid yourself, it isn't a panacea to stop all sex trafficking.

Thanks Flynne. You are so sweet.

"Now who's thin skinned? Taking things a little personally are we?"

?

"GFY."

Thank you.

"I'm simply saying"

I do not think you can do that.

Thank you, FBI, for that at least. Even if one child is saved, the effort is worth it.
Posted by: Flynne

What if in the effort to save one child they accidentaly burnt down the building and killed 20?

Which assumes no prostitutes or Johns would want prostitution hidden, from spouses, lovers, friends etc.

I have too snarky responses. Which do you like better

I know, right? Ever since stripping became legal they started tattooing across every forehead 'I went to a strip club' I stopped going so no would could ever know|

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I feel sorry for all the kids out there whos moms were/are strippers ever since that day god made the word 'stripper' appear on their foreheads

I'm not against legalizing prostitution, but don't kid yourself, it isn't a panacea to stop all sex trafficking.

Posted by: NicoleK

No, but imagine a world NicoleK where adult women who move themselves arent counted as 'trafficked' and the money to fight trafficking went to acctualy fight trafficking as opposed to going to groups which fight trafficking, which is then used to hiring more grant writers to ask for more money to fight trafficking by hiring more grant writers to ask for more money to fight trafficking by hiring more grant writers to ask for more money to fight trafficking by hiring more grant writers to ask for more money to fight trafficking by hiring more grant writers to ask for more money to fight trafficking by hiring more grant writers to ask for more money to fight trafficking by hiring more grant writers to ask for more money to fight trafficking by hiring more grant writers to ask for more money to fight trafficking by hiring more grant writers to ask for more money to fight trafficking by hiring more grant writers to ask for more money to fight trafficking by hiring more grant writers to ask for more money to fight trafficking by hiring more grant writers to ask for more money to fight trafficking by hiring more grant writers to ask for more money to fight trafficking by hiring more grant writers to ask for more money to fight trafficking by hiring more grant writers to ask for more money to fight trafficking by hiring more grant writers to ask for more money to fight trafficking by hiring more grant writers to ask for more money to fight trafficking by hiring more grant writers to ask for more money to fight trafficking by hiring more grant writers to ask for more money to fight trafficking by hiring more grant writers to ask for more money to fight trafficking by hiring more grant writers to ask for more money to fight trafficking by hiring more grant writers to ask for more money to fight trafficking by hiring more grant writers to ask for more money to fight trafficking by hiring more grant writers to ask for more money to fight trafficking by hiring more grant writers to ask for more money to fight trafficking by hiring more grant writers to ask for more money to fight trafficking by . . . .

Imagine that world

"What if in the effort to save one child they accidentally burnt down the building and killed 20?"

That means they shouldn't try?

"Some days I would just like to pay a young lady to give me a hug."

Shockingly, I'm not surprised you're lacking in the hug category.

"Shockingly, I'm not surprised you're lacking in the hug category."

I am not surprised you felt a need to make that comment. Does it make you feel better about yourself?

If the goal is to save one child and you know the effort will kill 20 I would say no

"I am not surprised you felt a need to make that comment. Does it make you feel better about yourself?"

I don't know, does commenting to me when you have no reason to other then sheer malice and bigotry make you feel better about YOURSELF?

Your awfully tough when you have supporters. As I proved before, one on one, not so much.

http://www.advicegoddess.com/archives/2013/07/27/mostest_linkies.html#comments

"If the goal is to save one child and you know the effort will kill 20 I would say no"

They wouldn't KNOW that till they tried.

"Your awfully tough when you have supporters. As I proved before, one on one, not so much."

Oh little one, you are in a pissing contest with yourself. Are you starting to understand why Crid kept asking you how old you are?

Of course you know this, but I think English is your second language, it is you are, or you're, not your.

Thanks Flynne. You are so sweet.

Any time, Dave B. Even though I'm bitter about a lot of things, I can still appreciate the need for a hug, and I can still give hugs. I'm grateful for that, anyway.

What if in the effort to save one child they accidentaly burnt down the building and killed 20?

Well, then, luj, it'd be an accident, then, wouldn't it? Tragic, but still an accident. Sometimes these things happen, but I'd still be grateful for the life saved; what if it was your niece they saved?

"Oh little one, you are in a pissing contest with yourself. Are you starting to understand why Crid kept asking you how old you are?"

Takes two to create a pissing match, if that's what you want to call it.

I call it giving what you get.

"They wouldn't KNOW that till they tried."

Actually, this is flatly wrong. The rescue of prisoners, of whatever kind, is a physics problem. Provided the rescue is planned, it has a good chance of success provided the goal is set as a rescue - not a publicity stunt, which killed 80+ children for real at Waco some years ago.

You have a shocking lack of sense about you regarding real-world practices and methods across several disciplines. You should get out more.

"I'm not against legalizing prostitution, but don't kid yourself, it isn't a panacea to stop all sex trafficking."

We don't decriminalize prostitution because it's supposed to stop sex trafficking, but because it's COMPLETELY unethical and a barbarous human rights violation to violently arrest someone and physical lock them in a small cell for a completely mutually consenting transaction and activity.

"Of course you know this, but I think English is your second language, it is you are, or you're, not your."

DING DING DING DING DING!!!!

He finally got one right folks!!

Now Dave, let's see you argue with me in French.

"Actually, this is flatly wrong."

How exactly?

How would they KNOW that something would go wrong in this highly theoretical rescue attempt of yours?

How would they KNOW that the building would be set on fire?

How would they KNOW that 8 out of 10, lets say, rescuers would be shot?

Are they clairvoyant?

Yes, wtf, even more clairvoyant than the level you demand of homeowners protecting their famillies

"Yes, wtf, even more clairvoyant than the level you demand of homeowners protecting their famillies"

Oh for Christ Sake!

And you people call me thin skinnedÉ

So in that case Luj, let`s call off all rescue efforts, cause someone might get hurt.

Guaranteed to increase child prostitution, that is. And hostage situations, bank robberies, etc etc etc.

Some crazy ex kidnaps your kidÉ Sorry. Can`t help you. Someone might get hurt.

Well, wtf, you argue just as stupidly that individuals have no right to defend themselves.

With this clever ruse I have made you understand how stupid you sound to us when you argue homeowners aught to wait until they are being murdered before using force to defend their child and pregnant wife