Hillary Clinton About Drug Legalization: She's Dumb As Wet Cement
Clinton tells Mexican TV journo Denise Maerker that legalizing drug trafficking and consumption just won't work, because..."There is just too much money in it, and I don't think that--you can legalize small amounts for possession, but those who are making so much money selling, they have to be stopped."
At reason, Jacob Sullum calls her on this stupidity:
Clinton evidently does not understand that there is so much money to be made by selling illegal drugs precisely because they are illegal. Prohibition not only enables traffickers to earn a "risk premium" that makes drug prices much higher than they would otherwise be; it delivers this highly lucrative business into the hands of criminals who, having no legal recourse, resolve disputes by spilling blood. The 35,000 or so prohibition-related deaths that Mexico has seen since President Felipe Calderon began a crackdown on drugs in 2006 are one consequence of the volatile situation created by the government's arbitrary dictates regarding psychoactive substances. Pace Clinton, the way to "stop" the violent thugs who profit from prohibition is not to mindlessly maintain the policy that enriches them.







I don't think there is enough of a quote there from Clinton to know what she is referring to.
Maybe it's early for me, but I don't understand either how you legalize possession of an ounce while keeping selling/distribution illegal AND have a rationale for that, or a functioning drug policy.
In Arizona, if you live within 25 miles or so of a dispensary it is illegal to grow your own pot.
And seeing the crackdowns on medical marijuana distributors in California by the Feds and the threatened crackdowns in Arizona, Washington, Colorado, I don't know where Jacob Sullum sees that either.
If selling is an illegal activity and the Feds are cracking down on it, I would not expect price of pot to be dropping much just because possession of an ounce is legal.
jerry at August 19, 2013 8:57 AM
Jerry, I thought that was sort of the point of the article: legalizing possession, when there is no legal source to purchase the stuff, is just putting lipstick on the pig. Marijuana is sort of differnet because it's practical and fairly easy for the consumer to produce their own. But for other drugs, someone has to be able to make and sell the stuff legally, or it's pointless.
Cousin Dave at August 19, 2013 10:10 AM
She says you can't legalize drugs because there's too much money in it. She thinks those who make so much money selling drugs have to be stopped.
If it was legal why would they have to be stopped?
She's a leftist. The the thought of other people making a lot of money selling drugs is itself enough reason to keep them illegal.
Leftists hate drug dealers for the same reason they hate big pharmaceutical companies: not because of the nature of the products they sell, but because they make a lot of money.
Ken R at August 19, 2013 10:12 AM
Ah, thank you Cousin Dave, your explanation, a reread, and a bit more caffeine have helped.
jerry at August 19, 2013 10:20 AM
I think she meant to say that there is SO much money to be made by the state and its partners in carrying on the war on drugs.
Frank at August 19, 2013 10:29 AM
Smartest woman in the world. Or, is that Michelle now days? And some wonder why I prefer Mrs. Palin.
Dave B at August 19, 2013 11:23 AM
So, we're talking about all psychoactive substances here?
It would be SO cool to be able to get codeine whenever I want it.
carol at August 19, 2013 12:06 PM
Hey, codeine was a pretty widely used recreational drug in the early 20th century.
And a thought occurred to me: would a lot of recreational drug users turn away from the likes of heroin and meth, and to less dangerous drugs, if those drugs could be legally obtained for recreational purposes? Things like codeine, lidocaine, Valium, Adderall. No doubt hard-core addicts will continue to pursue over-the-top drugs like heroin, but a lot of the less "serious" users could turn to safer drugs. Could be a public health win even if the total number of users goes up.
Cousin Dave at August 19, 2013 12:44 PM
That's it, Amy. You just made the enemies list.
Conan the Grammarian at August 19, 2013 12:52 PM
Amy Alkon
http://www.advicegoddess.com/archives/2013/08/19/hillary_clinton.html#comment-3866334">comment from Conan the GrammarianI'll be insulted if I'm not on a few people's enemies lists already!
Amy Alkon
at August 19, 2013 1:00 PM
Amy Alkon
http://www.advicegoddess.com/archives/2013/08/19/hillary_clinton.html#comment-3866335">comment from carolSo, we're talking about all psychoactive substances here? It would be SO cool to be able to get codeine whenever I want it.
Go to Paris, walk into a pharmacy, ask for it, pay, leave. How I get mine, along with other drugs the nanny state refuses to let us have without asking for a written note from doctordaddy.
Amy Alkon
at August 19, 2013 1:01 PM
I have heard from a good friend, who is a nurse, that at least half the cruise business that docks in ports outside of the US is US citzens buying prescription medications that are over the counter in other countries.
Isab at August 19, 2013 2:00 PM
That's an insult to cement - which will often have a noble purpose...
Has anyone on THIS blog talked about commercialization, regulation and legal distribution but me?
"Legalization" still doesn't have the same definition in argument for all the participants.
Apparently, pot fans think problems mysteriously vanish if you can't be busted for having weed in your pocket.
When you buy it, you will still fuel turf wars, funding the killing and the violation of American borders by smugglers. You're not cool, much less noble, for scoffing.
Radwaste at August 19, 2013 5:36 PM
Has anyone on THIS blog talked about commercialization, regulation and legal distribution but me?
I suggested the example of Portugal's drug policies a while ago as a way to decriminalize and regulate. Remember that? Or were you too high on glue, cocaine and purple drank to remember?
I know I was. Ha ha ha ha ha. JUST KIDDING.
Natural highs are the best. Rocky mountAin high, Colorado. Rocky MoUNTain hii!!i!gh, Colorado.
Yodelay, yodelay, I did an old lady tooooo!
How will we legalize root beers?!
Jason S. at August 19, 2013 6:24 PM
The Eighteenth Amendment made alcohol illegal for about 14 years. In that time you had the overgrowth of the FBI, the growth of the mafia, Al Capone, and so many other abuses by the government and by the alcohol traffickers (including the Kennedy's) it was ridiculous.
So now we are looking at the illegal war on drugs circa 1981. From that we have illegal searches, no-knock warrants, illegal confiscation in violation of the Fifth. Hell, there is a Third Amendment lawsuit going on (www.lasvegassun.com/news/2013/jul/11/constitutional-scholars-take-notice-lawsuit-agains/).
So if you make it legal and manufacturers can be above board, what would happen?
Jim P. at August 19, 2013 7:30 PM
Amy Alkon
http://www.advicegoddess.com/archives/2013/08/19/hillary_clinton.html#comment-3866970">comment from RadwasteWhen you buy it, you will still fuel turf wars, funding the killing and the violation of American borders by smugglers.
You're, um, high.
The pot dispensary in my neighborhood is a great neighbor. They get their pot from regulated sources.
Turf wars? What, between one Ojai farmer and another over whether the fence should be two inches to the east?
Likewise, Prohibition caused a great deal of violence until it was repealed. Now that you can go to the store and buy a bottle of wine, there's no reason for illegal trade in it.
Amy Alkon
at August 19, 2013 7:34 PM
"Turf wars?"
You should see the turf wars, here in Minnesota, over farm fresh eggs. Brutal, just brutal. You betcha. And don't get me started on cucumbers.
Dave B at August 19, 2013 10:35 PM
"...but those who are making so much money selling, they have to be stopped."
She means stopped from making too much money by having it seized by the government forces and through kickbacks and payouts/bribes to government officials. Government makes mucho buckos from keeping drugs illegal.
Sio at August 20, 2013 1:22 AM
Making drugs illegal is essentially saying, "Let's just put criminals in charge of this segment of the economy!" This war on drugs is destroying communities all across America and the world. It has to stop.
Brian at August 20, 2013 7:29 AM
off topic; but, I am so going to use that phrase "as dumb as wet cement."
I think all of Washington is "wet cement."
Charles at August 20, 2013 11:39 AM
"I hear Jimmy overdosed on Walgreens heroin last weekend".
'Doesn't that stuff come with a warning label?'
"Yeah. Stupid bastard ignored the instructions."
'Wow. This sucks. Now we need a fourth for poker night.'
Gog_Magog_Carpet_Reclaimers at August 21, 2013 2:48 PM
Does anyone REALLY expect a potential 2016 presidential candidate - most of the time, anyway - to speak in favor of legalizing drugs?
Ridiculous. Not that it wouldn't be a good idea, but....
lenona at August 21, 2013 3:22 PM
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