Translation: "If we keep pissing off rich people, we might not be able to do this anymore."

Great. Now, people with intent to harm but aren't actually in the system because they no previous record can now buy their way onto the plane anyway... And the rest of you wee people still get to spread 'em in the name of "safety".

So, hows that whole "TSA makes us safer" argument working out for you apologists?

Anyone who thing the TSA makes us safer needs to put down the crack pipe.

Translation: "If we keep pissing off rich people, we might not be able to do this anymore."

This.

Just another gimmick.

It's not like $85 is going to keep a terrorist off an airplane.

What part of the term, "suicide mission" do you NOT GET?

I like the part where the cargo goes in the hold uninspected.

Just stellar work by the TSA.

Again.

I see it is time to post my regular post about the TSA.

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The TSA was not needed one hour and one minute after Tower II was hit!

The paradigm, the norm, the expected, what everyone was taught to do was to sit down, shut up and wait for the plane to land and the negotiations happen. That was the model from before Entebbe and afterward.

The passengers on board did not really know what was about to happen on September 11, 2001 at 8:46:30 when Flight 11 struck Tower I.

Even the passengers on Flight 175 probably didn't realize what was about to happen when they struck Tower II at 9:03:02.

The Pentagon crash of Flight 77 at 9:37:46 may have been still a matter of ignorance.

At 10:03:11 on September 11, 2001, United Airlines Flight 93 crashed after the brave souls counter-attacked and caused the hijackers to crash the plane.

The time difference is 60 minutes and 9 seconds from Tower II being struck to the crash of Flight 93. The shoe bomber and panty bomber were taken down by fellow passengers as well. Recently, JetBlue's Flight 191 pilot was taken down by the passengers once he was out of the cockpit. Additionally how many times have you heard of passengers' concerns and diverted flights?

The TSA is and has always been a joke, no make that a total stupidity, that has wasted our country's fortune going down a rabbit hole.

If you don't believe me look at the 9/11 timeline.

There will never be another 9/11 style attack unless the attackers can arrange planes full of geriatrics, and even then it would be doubtful.

Oh, and someone brought bombs being an issue. If bombs were effective and simple then the Lockerbie bombing would have been repeated multiple times between 21 December 1988 and 11 September 2001. That's 4647 days or 13 years. Where was the TSA in that time? There was one successful bombing that was done in Colombia and two unsuccessful attempts in that time. The bombing in Colombia was a drug dealer assassination and not a terrorist attack.

Basically the normal was used in an abnormal way. Once it was realized it was countered.
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If I'm getting this wrong, please let me know.

Here's my shorter version of that rant:
Before 11 September 2001, we all thought that hijackers had an earthly destination, and if we coöperated, we'd be safe. al-Qa'ida proved us wrong. Therefore, passengers will now resist whatever threats to the plane they can, and will more often than not prevail by simple force of numbers.

Or even shorter version: That trick only works once. It's still safer than driving your pirate.

Here's my shorter version of that rant: ... -- silverpie at September 6, 2013 8:14 AM

Please feel free to borrow mine if you ever need too. But yours is a good simplification.