I have mixed feelings about this (and not just because it's from Jezebel).
Two girls, aged 12 and 14, were arrested because their cyberbullying prompted a 12-year-old girl, Rebecca Sedwick, to climb to the top of a water tower and throw herself off. The unnamed girls are charged with felony aggravated stalking.
On the one hand, this is a huge First Amendment issue. This "bullying" as they call it, amounts to nothing more than words on a webpage, not the acts of battery or other assorted crimes that we've come to associate with bullying.
On the other hand, the fourteen-year-old's lack of concern about having driven someone to suicide is a little disconcerting. She plainly admitted to bullying Rebecca and that she didn't care that her victim had killed herself.
It was this Rhoda Penmark-like indifference that instigated Polk County Sheriff Grady Judd to arrest the fourteen-year-old in the first place: "We decided that we can't leave her out there. Who else is she going to torment, who else is she going to harass?"
At the very least, this wasn't the kind of automatic response that decided that since someone being bullied killed themselves, arrests must be made. It was a calculated decision that was based upon the perpetrator's reaction. "Who else is she going to harass?" is a very good question. My guess would be, probably a lot of girls.
Gog_Magog_Carpet_Reclaimers
at October 16, 2013 3:58 AM
I read the AP version of that story yesterday, Patrick. The Jezebel link you provided had some interesting comments, though. My first reaction was how rare it is to see evil presented in such a pure form as the 14-year-old showed, but as some of the commenters on your link point out, it may be a little more complicated than that.
Kids can be cruel monsters, though, and we've all seen it. Maybe it's just easier now.
Old RPM Daddy (OldRPMDaddy at GMail dot com)
at October 16, 2013 4:05 AM
Gog, I like it. Of course it would never be successful. Horror movies depend upon clumsy characters who can't outrun a lumbering oaf with a chainsaw and a pronounced limp.
And of course, idiot girls who hear the sounds of a gruesome murder in the next room, and ... go to investigate, usually wearing nothing but a pair of panties and an oversized football jersey. Most people would lace up a pair of running shoes and get the hell away.
And one part that this clip touched upon...
Person A: We know that the murderer is somewhere in this house.
Person B: Should we split up?
Patrick
at October 16, 2013 4:42 AM
Here are some awesome animal photos, winners of the Natural History Museum's Wildlife Photographer of the Year for 2013.
The sea turtle in the eighth photograph is the Very Essence of Cool.
Old RPM Daddy (OldRPMDaddy at GMail dot com)
at October 16, 2013 4:49 AM
This T-shirt is cool (if you're into pugs, that is. And I know we have a few people here who are! PJ, Ppen, I'm lookin' at you!).
As I read the story, Patrick, Rebecca threw herself from the top of a silo of an old concrete plant. I hope her tormenters get the max (juvy for 5 years or until each one turns 19, whichever comes first).
There was an old SNL skit (back when it was funny) that parodied horror-movie trailers. It showed a young woman in a nightgown, walking around a house doing the various actions that the spooky-sounding narrator was telling the audience not to do: "DON'T get out of bed! DON'T go down the stairs! DON'T look out the window! DON'T answer the phone! DON'T go to the kitchen! DON'T make a peanut butter sandwich!"
Cousin Dave
at October 16, 2013 9:29 AM
The cook-your-own movement has graduated from meth to heroin, it seems, with the first wave coming in from Russia.
Gog_Magog_Carpet_Reclaimers
at October 16, 2013 10:17 AM
I recently saw a photo spread of krokodil users in Russian hospitals and prisons. The effects make Hollywood (special effects makeup) look tame. People with arms and legs where entire sections of flesh have rotted away to the bone.
While I'm pretty sure I've still got some Legos lying around in the shed somewhere, my skills are nothing like these people's. Link courtesy of my office mate, who's almost as productive as I am today...
Old RPM Daddy (OldRPMDaddy at GMail dot com)
at October 16, 2013 11:39 AM
Old RPM Daddy (OldRPMDaddy at GMail dot com)
at October 16, 2013 1:08 PM
At least krok isnt illegal like that more dangerous than heroin drug weed, and its non dug cousin hemp. Those are far more dangerous according to the government
I have mixed feelings about this (and not just because it's from Jezebel).
Two girls, aged 12 and 14, were arrested because their cyberbullying prompted a 12-year-old girl, Rebecca Sedwick, to climb to the top of a water tower and throw herself off. The unnamed girls are charged with felony aggravated stalking.
On the one hand, this is a huge First Amendment issue. This "bullying" as they call it, amounts to nothing more than words on a webpage, not the acts of battery or other assorted crimes that we've come to associate with bullying.
On the other hand, the fourteen-year-old's lack of concern about having driven someone to suicide is a little disconcerting. She plainly admitted to bullying Rebecca and that she didn't care that her victim had killed herself.
It was this Rhoda Penmark-like indifference that instigated Polk County Sheriff Grady Judd to arrest the fourteen-year-old in the first place: "We decided that we can't leave her out there. Who else is she going to torment, who else is she going to harass?"
At the very least, this wasn't the kind of automatic response that decided that since someone being bullied killed themselves, arrests must be made. It was a calculated decision that was based upon the perpetrator's reaction. "Who else is she going to harass?" is a very good question. My guess would be, probably a lot of girls.
Patrick at October 16, 2013 2:01 AM
Smart characters.
Good decisions.
HELL NO: The Sensible Horror Film
Gog_Magog_Carpet_Reclaimers at October 16, 2013 3:58 AM
I read the AP version of that story yesterday, Patrick. The Jezebel link you provided had some interesting comments, though. My first reaction was how rare it is to see evil presented in such a pure form as the 14-year-old showed, but as some of the commenters on your link point out, it may be a little more complicated than that.
Kids can be cruel monsters, though, and we've all seen it. Maybe it's just easier now.
Old RPM Daddy (OldRPMDaddy at GMail dot com) at October 16, 2013 4:05 AM
Gog, I like it. Of course it would never be successful. Horror movies depend upon clumsy characters who can't outrun a lumbering oaf with a chainsaw and a pronounced limp.
And of course, idiot girls who hear the sounds of a gruesome murder in the next room, and ... go to investigate, usually wearing nothing but a pair of panties and an oversized football jersey. Most people would lace up a pair of running shoes and get the hell away.
And one part that this clip touched upon...
Person A: We know that the murderer is somewhere in this house.
Person B: Should we split up?
Patrick at October 16, 2013 4:42 AM
Here are some awesome animal photos, winners of the Natural History Museum's Wildlife Photographer of the Year for 2013.
The sea turtle in the eighth photograph is the Very Essence of Cool.
Old RPM Daddy (OldRPMDaddy at GMail dot com) at October 16, 2013 4:49 AM
This T-shirt is cool (if you're into pugs, that is. And I know we have a few people here who are! PJ, Ppen, I'm lookin' at you!).
o.O
Flynne at October 16, 2013 6:59 AM
Huh. I KNOW I put in the right code:
http://www.thinkgeek.com/product/163c/?cpg=56727064&msg_id=56727064&et_rid=702745258&linkid=56727064_headline_163c
Try this.
Flynne at October 16, 2013 7:00 AM
As I read the story, Patrick, Rebecca threw herself from the top of a silo of an old concrete plant. I hope her tormenters get the max (juvy for 5 years or until each one turns 19, whichever comes first).
In the meantime:
City Government: Your "God Bless America" Sign on Your Own Property is Illegal
mpetrie98 at October 16, 2013 9:00 AM
There was an old SNL skit (back when it was funny) that parodied horror-movie trailers. It showed a young woman in a nightgown, walking around a house doing the various actions that the spooky-sounding narrator was telling the audience not to do: "DON'T get out of bed! DON'T go down the stairs! DON'T look out the window! DON'T answer the phone! DON'T go to the kitchen! DON'T make a peanut butter sandwich!"
Cousin Dave at October 16, 2013 9:29 AM
The cook-your-own movement has graduated from meth to heroin, it seems, with the first wave coming in from Russia.
As soon as they get the eats-your-flesh problem solved, I'm sure the kids will love it.
Gog_Magog_Carpet_Reclaimers at October 16, 2013 10:17 AM
I recently saw a photo spread of krokodil users in Russian hospitals and prisons. The effects make Hollywood (special effects makeup) look tame. People with arms and legs where entire sections of flesh have rotted away to the bone.
Eric at October 16, 2013 11:30 AM
Warning: extremely graphic:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/09/26/krokodil-images_n_3996325.html
Eric at October 16, 2013 11:37 AM
While I'm pretty sure I've still got some Legos lying around in the shed somewhere, my skills are nothing like these people's. Link courtesy of my office mate, who's almost as productive as I am today...
Old RPM Daddy (OldRPMDaddy at GMail dot com) at October 16, 2013 11:39 AM
Also from Wired: What your kitty sees (as far as we can tell), and why.
Old RPM Daddy (OldRPMDaddy at GMail dot com) at October 16, 2013 1:08 PM
At least krok isnt illegal like that more dangerous than heroin drug weed, and its non dug cousin hemp. Those are far more dangerous according to the government
lujlp at October 16, 2013 9:19 PM
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