Detained For Refusing Optional Eye-Follow Test At DUI Checkpoint
The Austrian Insider, who posted this, said the "pen test" -- where you follow a pen with your eyes -- is optional, and according to what I read on numerous DUI lawyer websites, he's correct.
I know the breathalyzer test (in California) is mandatory. But that's not what he was asked to take.
I emailed The Austrian Insider, whose name is Sean Aranda -- thanking him and saying something I wish more people would consider (that last bit):
Thanks so much -- and for standing up to the guy. Every time people knuckle under and give up their civil liberties it makes them that much easier to yank them away from all of us.
I also asked him to write about the "optional" thing, so I could post it with the video. He emailed me back:
I wrote an email to citizensreviewboard@sandiego.gov stating my complaint about wrongful detainment.Everywhere I am being told that they do not have the right to detain you without suspicion of drinking, and refusing their test is not suspicion. I have read everywhere that those pen tests can be refused. The officer was very rude to me the entire time, making a point to tell me over and over how I am the one uncooperative person of the night. He didn't believe I wasn't on probation, asking me multiple times and rolling his eyes. Only after my license came back clean and I blew a .000BAC did he become nice and try to shake my hand.
I made it a point multiple times during my off camera encounter to ask him if the pen test was optional, he said "yes" every time, and each time I would say "how is it is optional if I ended up here?" to which he never respond.
What I'd like to see is more people following his lead (and, I guess, mine with the TSA) -- standing up against civil liberties violations and intimidation by government employees in positions of power.







Here's the problem - there are NO repercussions for COPs, TSA agents, etc., who violate civil liberties in grey areas like this. They get away with it because they have the benefit of the doubt that they are protect and serve the public trust and welfare. It is rare that the legislature, city counsel or other government body will intervene to correct behaviors like this because most people will concede under the pressure, especially the drunks, and they'll catch a drunk driver or two. In THIS particular case, the case of drunk driving, I actually believe there is merit - but, rudeness and violation of rights clearly should be an indication that this individual was coherent enough to be treated within their rights and with respect. It also, IMHO, shows that they were probably NOT intoxicated or under the influence.
Lee Ladisky at June 17, 2014 6:38 AM
You get to choose the test or detention. That's the option.
dee nile at June 17, 2014 6:42 AM
> I made it a point multiple times during
> my off camera encounter to ask him if
> the pen test was optional, he said
> "yes" every time
This almost/somewhat gladdens my heart. We're never going to get the Platonic ideal of detached, robotic law enforcement; and this is about as far away from the global standard for street constabularies as you'll ever see. (Paraphrase Hitchens: 'That's what a warlord is, a petty tyrant who controls a stretch of road.')
Crid [CridComment at Gmail] at June 17, 2014 9:39 AM
I was stopped at a sobriety checkpoint, and fumbled to find my driver license... watching me, the cop said "I know you're sober, have a good night!"
I guess they can usually smell the alcohol. I hadn't had any.
jefe at June 17, 2014 1:36 PM
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