Feminism: It's Now The Victim's-Eye View
Check out this line from an Amanda Hess piece on Slate:
Men who enter female spaces without an explicit invitation may intrude on feminists seeking "a break from their everyday encounters with men."
Now apply that to those golf clubs that don't want women.
Hmmm, right?
Hmmm.
If you don't feel like you are some lesser human compared with men, you don't view every encounter through the lens of being victimized -- as feminists do.
So, for example, when some blowhard in a bar takes off about some area of science I know very well, or about dietary science, which I also know pretty well, I don't think of this as somebody "mansplaining" to me. It's not about their thinking I'm some twit who knows nothing. They have no idea what I do or don't know; they're just trying to sound smart, interesting, and worthy.







http://www.nationalreview.com/article/390425/students-transgender-woman-cant-be-diversity-officer-because-shes-white-man-now
And then there is this.
Isab at October 16, 2014 10:46 PM
Seems like that article is about feminists femmes carping about male feminists, and how they act. Which means because they may act like men, they must be wrong...
dunno, maybe I read it wrong.
In any case, if they're going to eat their own, I'se staying out of it.who needs the aggravation?
swissarmyd at October 16, 2014 10:58 PM
Men who enter female spaces without an explicit invitation may intrude on feminists seeking "a break from their everyday encounters with men."
What if we want to define "male spaces", because we are seeking a break from our everyday encounters with women? Oh, right, that would be discrimination...
a_random_guy at October 16, 2014 11:37 PM
> It's not about their thinking I'm
> some twit who knows nothing.
☑ Props to Amy Alkon. 'Zackly. I think this is one of those (myriad) child-of-divorce things. Otherwise-capable women have spent their lives being warned that they have to be suspicious in a masculine world of predatory cunning and deception... But they've never had a loving man show them how it really works, or show them when to relax and trust their best judgement. Consequence: What, does he think I'm stooo-pit?
By the way, I've been meaning to explain to you how your hybrid car works, but I have no fucking clue. It's nice to think you'd listen to a few sentences of perfunctory rambling anyway.
(PS- Men do this to each other, too.)
Crid [CridComment at Gmail] at October 17, 2014 12:47 AM
swissarmydad:
That's happened lots of times in the past. Why do you think there are now "male-free" fitness places? Fraternal organizations, got to let women join (what part of Faternal don't they understand?)
mer at October 17, 2014 4:27 AM
I've been meaning to explain to you how your hybrid car works,
I know how it works -- by my getting on the Internet and figuring things out after I burst into tears and my boyfriend tells me I'm a nerd and to get on the Internet and figure it out instead of crying.
The story: I drove up to Beverly Glen to the deli up there to meet friends for brunch. Almost as I was up there, my battery light went on and some other engine light did. The hybrid battery, that is. I made it up there and back to the Honda dealership, where the service guy said I probably needed a new battery. This is about $3,000 and times are a little tough and I sure don't have that to spend. (My car is probably only worth $6,000 -- it's a 2004 Honda Insight.)
By the way, the reason the battery wore out? I didn't drive it enough. I would have fought that -- because nowhere does it say that you need to drive it a certain amount for it to keep.
But I didn't have to, thank you, wise boyfriend. I got on the Internet, found some court case that extended my car's warranty (10 years/150K miles), found the title for the car, found that I still had a little under a month till it was 10 years old, and told the dealership and got the battery replaced free of charge.
P.S. When I was writing the book last year, I spent $35 on gas -- for the entire year. I'm trying to drive more now, but I really want to trade my car for a used Smart car. I barely drive the freeways and my neighborhood has parking problems now and every time I see them, I want to hug them. Yes, the cars.
Amy Alkon at October 17, 2014 5:28 AM
Older hybrids would need their batteries replaced anyways. When the Prius came out in 2000, it was announced by Toyota that the expectation of the battery life was about 7 years, and the batteries at the time ran $6K.
spqr2008 at October 17, 2014 5:36 AM
I think battery life/replacement cost is why a new, efficient "clean diesel" is supposed to offer the lowest Total Cost of Ownership for cars.
Lamont Cranston at October 17, 2014 6:48 AM
Well, Slate. Here's a brief description of Slate.
WOMEN!!!! AND WHITE PEOPLE SUCK!!!! EVERYONE KNOWS THIS!!!!!!!
Steve Daniels at October 17, 2014 9:00 AM
Androphobia
Ken R at October 17, 2014 2:58 PM
As I understand it this is why there are two international chess groups, mixed gender and women's. The men's chess league was deemed discriminatory but women's is not.
Ben at October 17, 2014 4:26 PM
"I don't think of this as somebody "mansplaining" to me"
I agree, it could be that he considers you as someone equally capable of understanding something. Wasn't the older stereotype one of "well, it's too complicated you to worry your pretty little head about honey."?
Charles at October 17, 2014 6:06 PM
About hybrid batteries:
I told you so. Yeah, I went there. Look back on here.
The hybrid makes the most sense if it is driven continuously, not parked - and then, only if there are no cargo-size penalties for its use.
$3500 will get you a mint Buick that holds more, has better A/C, is faster, is higher off the ground and has better crash protection. And the bench front seat will let you sit by your guy.
And nobody had to mine heavy metals to make a pain propulsion battery.
Radwaste at October 17, 2014 7:15 PM
Amy Alkon
http://www.advicegoddess.com/archives/2014/10/17/feminism_the_vi.html#comment-5265415">comment from RadwasteRad, Buicks are ugly, I want the smallest car possible that's still safe, I don't need "better AC" because I live in Los Angeles, not New Mexico, and I don't want a car that's higher off the ground. As for crash protection, I mainly protect myself from crashes by going nowhere. And the only time I'll drive Gregg somewhere is if he's ill. He drives. I passenger.
Amy Alkon
at October 17, 2014 7:38 PM
I drive a Prius. My previous car was a V8 modified American car.
People that criticize hybrids don't understand the consumers that purchase them. I keep hearing criticisms from people who don't have them as dailies, yet most reports that poll actual consumers tend to place the cars at a high satisfaction mark. Is it because we don't know what we like? Hardly.
When I'm in LA I don't want a Buick. If I'm a regular person I want a BMW 3 series, a Prius, a Smart car, or Honda Accord. If I'm in other areas I will take something different.
Ppen at October 17, 2014 9:46 PM
When I'm in LA I don't want a Buick. If I'm a regular person I want a BMW 3 series, a Prius, a Smart car, or Honda Accord. If I'm in other areas I will take something different.
Posted by: Ppen at October 17, 2014 9:46 PM
What I want, and what I need are two different things.
I drive a 2002 Nissan Altima in the US. And a 2003 Nissan March in Japan.
Both seem to be good reliable cars. The Altima has been driven 180,000 miles, with nothing but new tires, and regular maintenance.
You don't judge the cost and the value of a car by the cost of the gas you put in it. You drive any car that little you are probably better off not having one at all.
The purchase price, the insurance, maintence and fuel costs need to be divided by the number of miles driven.
That is how you determine the true cost of ownership, and what the break even point is for the alternative.
People are often penny wise and pound foolish because they look too closely at the cost of gas, and not at all at the rest of it.
If it doesn't add up it doesn't add up.
Isab at October 18, 2014 12:24 AM
Hybrid batteries can be opened up and the bad cells replaced at much lower cost than total battery replacement. I have a friend who buys older Priuses? and repairs them. Then he resells them for a profit after battery repair. Dealer mechanics are forbidden to do this. Just one of the reasons that an independent garage can be better.
The right car for Ms. Amy may be a rental considering the low mileage she drives.
Fred Mallison at October 18, 2014 5:21 AM
http://www.zipcar.com/losangeles/check-rates
flbeachmom at October 19, 2014 7:56 PM
Amy Alkon
http://www.advicegoddess.com/archives/2014/10/17/feminism_the_vi.html#comment-5287952">comment from Fred MallisonI cannot deal with having to go get a car whenever I need to go somewhere.
It's not efficient for me to have a rental. I want a Smart car, which would be easy to park in my neighborhood, where a business has used "grandfathered" parking to open with ZERO spaces (for a restaurant that brings in hundreds of customers for several seatings at lunch and several seatings at dinner).
Amy Alkon
at October 20, 2014 5:31 AM
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