Aren't we being all "hate speech"-y to women who are thin by suggesting that it's horrible to have a very thin woman in an ad?

No, we're not being "hate speech"-y for two reasons. First, hate speech, as we've seen in the previous post, only works one way; the thin and beautiful, due to their privilege, cannot be victims of hate speech. Second, what constitutes hate speech will change with the political winds, as even those who advocate hate speech laws will eventually (and to their great discomfort) find out.

" I have thighs and a butt, and though she's thin, she seems to have them, too "

I strongly and fervently disagree with you Amy. Just look at the 4th pic, she has no butt. That's a concave booty. That's a Taylor Swift ass (google it people!).

I get the obsession with thinness but frankly let's calls it as I sees it. That is not a butt. You would never find that ad in a Hispanic or black magazine because girl ain't got no butt or huge boobs. Yes, whatever I like her body but its not my ideal and I think it's more of a white woman's or Asian woman's thing. Still despite the media mostly catering to whites you will never be able to convince a black person that is the "ideal" body so that complaining advertising thinness promotes an unrealistic image to women is a moot point. It isn't advertising that creates this ideal, it's the ideal that creates the advertising. Hence why blacks or Hispanics would just shrug at that stupid hate speech complaint.

And it's women and flaming homo men who like that body! Men have totally different tastes.

"It isn't advertising that creates this ideal, it's the ideal that creates the advertising."

Ppen, That is so true!

Afterall, if the advertising didn't match the ideal (as Amy says in her post with the comment about the 45-year old housewife) the ad wouldn't work.

By the way, there's research that finds that the body type that men in a culture prefer relates to how much food is available. Where food is plentiful, like in our culture, where you can't fall out of a car without ending up in a 7-Eleven parking lot, thin is in. In cultures where food is scarce, they fatten the ladies up, because fat is hot.
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That's almost exactly what Gloria Steinem said, some years ago. Glad you two agree.

I blame XKCD.

I strongly and fervently disagree with you Amy. Just look at the 4th pic, she has no butt. That's a concave booty. That's a Taylor Swift ass (google it people!).

Yep. That's my husband's butt. I tease him about it all the time. He needs a butt pad like Hank Hill had on King of the HIll.

Whereas me? I used to get comments all the time from, ahem, the brothers when I was younger. I am not sure I would ever have a thigh gap, however.

Frankly, she mainly seems to have a thigh gap because she's standing with her legs apart.

Well, yeah.

That's all it's really ever been.

That was me as a teenager -- thinner even, with hipbones that stuck out. And I ate like a horse too, plenty of soda & junk food. And it was not actually fun to be that thin with zero curves (and also tall). I probably looked like I had an eating disorder. So . . . I didn't appreciate the comments I got about being so skinny. And now? not exactly an issue, too bad I didn't appreciate it back then!

There's quite a few of us women around with the "thigh-gap" thing, we just don't all model underpants. It's just the result of being non-curvy: flat on top, flat butt and not much on the thighs. I know quite a few, we do exist if you look around (although we might not be wearing skinny jeans 24/7).

I can't believe I am commenting about my own body like anyone else in the entire world would even care about this, let alone ban it from underpant ads. Groan.

Given that I have about 40 years of experience in checking out chicks, there's nothing obvious that suggests this particular model is unhealthy.

In the interest of science, I went back to the source material, and upon viewing the larger images, I note that her hip bones do not protrude, her rib cage is not noticeable, and while it is not clear, I suspect that she's got that bump of fat just above her tailbone.

I'll go on a smallish limb and suggest that barring contraceptives or other damage, she would be quite fecund.

PPen provides this gem: And it's women and flaming homo men who like that body! Men have totally different tastes.

While that's true, I still wouldn't kick her out of my bed. Well, except to go make me a sammich. I have a secondary attraction type, the thin spinner type. Yeah, I don't know where that came from, but there it is.

I guess I should denounce myself and head for the gulags and re-education since I engaged in all sorts of slut shaming, misogyny, hate speech, objectifyin' and microaggressions.

Having been that thin, it was always disappointing to hear that men didn't like my body type (many times from women - the men were more polite). But as I discovered there are plenty of men who actually do like a thin body type just as there are men who prefer more curves. And yes, the men were hetero. :)

Lookit the MEN's underwear pics; they all have six-pack abs and 3% body fat. How many of US have eating disorders from seeing that?

I will go back in time and tell skinny model and stripper 25-yearold me that men hated my body and were only giving me money because they felt sorry for me and hoped I would put my damn clothes on, go buy a sandwich, and become a proper woman. If only they'd been more clear about that. I wasted so much time taking my clothes off for money and for strip club patrons and girlie mag photographers who were apparently all gay. I'm so glad I have the Internet to enlighten me.

I have a secondary attraction type, the thin spinner type.

I have a friend through work that is/was attracted to this type.. though the small/short variety. When he first met the woman (of this type) he's been married to for >10 years now, a co-worker (a woman, in fact) commented that his type was waif.

No matter how thin, fat, sexy, ugly, hairy, short or tall you are, there's someone out there who wants to have sex with you.

Jesus Christ did my comment get taken out of context.

I was a baby faced waif for most of my life. I understand what it means to be a waif quite well. In a twist of fate the waifs came out of the woodwork to be offended because apparently I said no heterosexual men find them attractive ever.

But men have totally different tastes in skinny women than what you see advertised for other women. It's called "men's magazine appeal" and it is considered derogatory if you want to make it. Are there exceptions? Somewhat. Victorias
Secret models would be one but they have to establish they are what women consider non-threatening sexy. A Playboy bunny or a skinny 25 year old stripper is considered too vulgar too appeal to women.

Meh. I like women. That model has a nice shape and falls within my 98%-of-all-human-females nailable range.

But I'm picky that way.

I don't find this model fine at all - in fact, she reminds me of something tragic I find in a mall whenever I go: the simultaneously thin and flabby modern do-nothing girl.

Go play tennis, lady. Do something that will train your body to enjoy more than the couch.