Three California Legislators Want To Make It Easier To Ruin Young Men's Lives
Are voting parents of sons and people who care about due process all comatose when they vote?
Legislators who brought this bill need to be recalled from office and replaced -- as do any who vote for this bill. The rest of us should at least email them to express our disgust. See below the post for their contact info.
Ashe Schow writes for the WashEx:
Last year California passed a law that defined nearly all sex on college campuses as rape unless proven otherwise. Now, in addition to making it easier to label someone a rapist for just about every sexual encounter, state legislators want to go further to ensure that accused students' lives are severely disrupted -- if not ruined -- by introducing mandatory minimums for their punishment.The mandatory minimum would be a suspension of two years for students found responsible for sexual assault. But bear in mind that the burden of proof already lies with the accused, thanks to California's "yes means yes" law. Accusers do not have to provide any proof that that they failed to give consent or were unable to consent due to incapacitation, and now a guilty finding would carry a minimum punishment under this new proposal.
First they made it easier to brand a student a rapist, and now they want to make it easier to ruin that student's life.
Again, the problem. Nobody should get away with rape without punishment but this isn't about proving rape by any legal standard. It's about pointing a finger and letting the male student prove that there was consent:
Accusers do not have to provide any proof that that they failed to give consent or were unable to consent due to incapacitation,
Again, I go back to my suggestion that parents of sons sending them to campus warn them to avoid all campus women and give their sons an allowance to time-share an escort with their male friends.
Yes, that's what it's come to in yet another rollback of rights -- and especially rights for those evil turds, men -- in what used to be the United States of America.
Who are the assembly members behind the bill?
Evan Low, Democrat:
Capitol Office P.O. Box 942849, Room 2175, Sacramento, CA 94249-0028; (916) 319-2028District Office
20111 Stevens Creek Blvd., Suite 220, Cupertino, CA 95014; (408) 446-2810
Kevin McCarty, Democrat:
Capitol Office P.O. Box 942849, Room 2160, Sacramento, CA 94249-0007; (916) 319-2007District Office
915 L Street, Suite 110, Sacramento, CA 95814; (916) 324-4676
Das Williams, Democrat:
Capitol Office P.O. Box 942849, Room 4005, Sacramento, CA 94249-0037; (916) 319-2037District Office
101 West Anapamu Street, Suite A, Santa Barbara, CA 93101; (805) 564-1649
89 South California Street, Suite F, Ventura, CA 93001; (805) 641-3700







Simplest solution?
Dont date college girls. In CA as I understand it all the UC schools are connected so no dating anyone going to a different campus either.
Dont even talk to them.
lujlp at April 17, 2015 7:53 AM
To lujlp: +1
Another solution: an organized, all-male, campus-wide boycott of all college women. The goal is to get women to organize and lobby for a repeal of this crazy law.
Nick at April 17, 2015 8:06 AM
"Again, I go back to my suggestion that parents of sons sending them to campus warn them to avoid all campus women and give their sons an allowance to time-share an escort with their male friends."
MGTOW forever!
MGTOW for life!
And by the way, does anyone really think these bigoted laws are going to keep young women safe? Or punish young women who rape?
Jim at April 17, 2015 9:55 AM
I tried to use the email links you provided, Amy, but unfortunately it will not send messages from me, because I don't live in the district. (I don't even live in California.)
I can't believe that this law would survive any Supreme Court challenge; it blatantly defies the presumption of innocence until proven guilty.
Patrick at April 17, 2015 1:08 PM
Another solution: an organized, all-male, campus-wide boycott of all college women.
Ha. Ha ha. Ha ha ha. You slay me. Surely you realize that doing that would create a hostile environment and an automatic Title IX violation?
Expel them all! off with their heads!
I R A Darth Aggie at April 17, 2015 5:53 PM
I can't believe that this law would survive any Supreme Court challenge; it blatantly defies the presumption of innocence until proven guilty.
It might not. On the other hand, Jerry Brown might follow along with this fellow's suggestion to bypass the courts.
I R A Darth Aggie at April 17, 2015 5:57 PM
I can't believe that this law would survive any Supreme Court challenge; it blatantly defies the presumption of innocence until proven guilty.
Thats because it isnt a CRIMINAL law. It only applies to students of the state of Califorina's public colleges.
Likewise I never though a law allowing the TSA to tickle my balls so I could ride a plane would survive court challenges, as it to " blatantly defies the presumption of innocence until proven guilty."
But you were cool with boys in TSA blue molesting kids and adults, why does this shock you?
lujlp at April 17, 2015 8:37 PM
Men can no longer afford to put their degrees, careers, and reputations at risk by dating women who attend their own school. This avoidance ought to have a handy name, like "D-DOC" for Don't Date On Campus".
A man approached by a woman who attends his own school will simply say, "Sorry -- I'm D-DOC". That's an easy thing to put on a poster. A button that reads "Ask me about D-DOC" means, "Let me help you get up to speed on what happens to men who are victimized by false accusations and rape-culture hysteria. Don't let that be you."
I foresee a day when parents tell their freshman sons to stay away from the girls, and upperclassmen sit the new guy down to make sure he grasps just how dangerous the campus environment is.
Men have to take active measures to protect themselves from women on campus. Suing the school after the fact is a Pyrrhic victory; better for him to not create the risk exposure in the first place, so he can get on with his life. Only preemption works; he will get no justice if he becomes entangled in a system deliberately designed to destroy him.
The broader threat and responses aren't new. For decades, male professors have refused to meet one-on-one with female students behind closed doors -- or even in their offices. There have long been equivalents in the corporate world, institutions, and government; we've all read about men who avoid getting on an elevator with a woman if there's no one else there. What's new is that ordinary men going about their studies and daily lives will begin to make similar adjustments.
The need for preemption applies off-campus too.
There are lots of possible ways men in all walks of life can adapt to the growing threat. Group-style dating might come into vogue for the protection it provides from false accusation. Daytime outings might be preferred to nighttime. Clubs that have video cameras covering the entire location might be seen as advantageous rather than as an intrusive invasion of privacy. Men might take cabs to a date instead of driving their own car so they're not alone in a vehicle with a woman, or simply agree to meet at the destination.
To allow a relationship to progress from dating-only to intimacy, there might be entirely new services like relationship counseling engaged for the purpose of verifying consent. In that scenario, a pair of counselors (always two, including at least one woman) meet with a woman from time to time to establish a paper trail verifying that she is engaging consensual intimacy with a man.
Picture also a service in which a woman logs onto a website and reads a prepared text affirming her consent to sex as the system compares her voiceprint and other biometrics to prerecorded benchmarks to confirm she is not under undue stress and is telling the truth when she consents. A puff into the breathalizer confirms she is not drunk. Her pupil dilation is normal, ruling out the influence of some drugs. The system sends a message to her boyfriend confirming it is safe for him to have sex with her that evening.
Does that scenario seem far-fetched? Maybe it is, in part or whole. But did you ever expect the NFL to try to buy sociopolitical protection for itself by hiring a politically active feminist as an "advisor" and forcing the players to wear pink gloves on the field?
Lastango at April 17, 2015 11:29 PM
Instead of just avoiding dating college women; maybe look into attending an all-male college?
For straight guys it would remove all temptation.
It might also send a message to the co-ed schools that until they make it safe for men to attend they will lose them as students.
charles at April 18, 2015 4:53 AM
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