Congresswoman Jackie Speier Wants To Make Extra-Sure Young Men's Lives Are Ruined
It's not enough that, in sexual assault accusations, young men are forced into campus kangaroo courts where due process is removed from them.
Of course, sexual assault accusations should be handled by the criminal justice system, not some chickie who needs to go study for her midterms.
What happens in the current system, however, is that the accused is allowed to be present but barely allowed to defend himself. Here's an example from a CNN story by Sara Ganim and Nelli Black:
Months after the sexual encounters took place, Jane Roe filed a complaint with school officials at UCSD, accusing John Doe of sexual misconduct when he touched her the following morning.Doe said all their sex acts were consensual and said he had text messages to prove it.
He was investigated and tried by his own university. The tribunal found Doe responsible for violating the school's policy on sexual misconduct for trying to digitally penetrate the woman the morning after they had sex.
But Doe says the hearing was one-sided and unfair. He was allowed to have a lawyer, but the lawyer couldn't speak.
He submitted questions for his accuser, but not all of them were asked. He wasn't allowed to dispute the testimony or examine the evidence.
"I tried to object a few times," he told CNN, "and they reminded me that it was just a school hearing and it wasn't criminal so I wasn't allowed to do that." Doe declined to testify on his own behalf during the proceedings on the advice of of his attorney.
He was suspended from school for one semester, and each time he appealed, his punishment was increased without explanation until he was facing a suspension of more than a year.
"I'm all for true victims of rape to receive all the assistance they need," Doe says, "but at the same time the accused students have rights."
So he sued UCSD, and a state judge agreed with him, finding the tribunal process was skewed and violated John Doe's rights.
The standard, unlike in actual court, is not "reasonable doubt" but whether "more likely than not" there was an assault that took place. Judged by some campus panel, not a judge and jury.
Many male students have been expelled from schools and had their lives ruined by this -- by the mere accusation anyone can make. It's rather like the Salem Witch Trials, only the men are spared the hanging -- though being expelled is likely life-ruining (or at least maiming) for many.
As if that's not terribler enough, Ashe Schow reports at the Wash Ex that "Congresswoman Jackie Speier, D-Calif., says she plans to introduce legislation that would ensure colleges and universities are made aware when a transferring student has been found responsible for sexual assault or sexual harassment."
The Foundation for Individual Rights in Education points out that this would be an acceptable approach if the findings of campus hearings weren't flawed. But as Anita Levy, senior program officer for the American Association of University Professors, told Inside Higher Ed, passing on such information is concerning "when the original proceedings may have been severely lacking in procedural protections, and thus the findings questionable -- even if that means some genuine serial harassers may slip through the nets."
But here's the sick turn that women have taken. It is common within civil liberties circles to talk about how it's better to let guilty people go free than to falsely convict an innocent person.
Activists may suggest that it is better that innocent students be harmed than a responsible student be allowed to continue his education. This was evidenced in a Washington Post survey about campus sexual assault, in which students were asked which was worse, an innocent person being expelled or a guilty student going free. Fifty-six percent of women surveyed said it was worse for a guilty student to go free. Just 36 percent of women surveyed said it was worse for an innocent to be punished, showing an alarming ignorance of the Constitition.We've created a system where false accusations are easier to make and carry few if any consequences.
Women now have better lives and more privilege than women people at any time in history and in any other place.
It is just twisted that women now are taking an "Off with his head" approach to men, and that women who claim to want equal rights are doing little or nothing to protest a sick process that does not allow men a proper defense. The thing is, when rights are removed from some people, the ultimately are likely to be removed from all of us.
It's just "fashionable" now to be anti-male.
But look at the women who are. Look closely. Women who resent and even hate men like that have something broken in them. They're women to keep far away from -- especially if it's night and nobody else is around to corroborate your story.
Much of the original defense for the lax standards in the new sex tribunals was that it wasn't a court, it was just a campus, it was just expulsion, it's not like it could really effect anyone for life.
Having gotten folks to believe that, it became, it's horrible these students are being readmitted!
jerry at January 21, 2016 11:44 PM
Women, in general, do not care about men in general. Men, in general, do not care about men in general. Men, throughout history, have been and still are, disposable. Until that changes (never), only financial lose through litigation will make a difference. Maybe.
Matt at January 21, 2016 11:51 PM
Women now have better lives and more privilege than people at any time in history and in any other place.
dee nile at January 22, 2016 3:31 AM
Good correction, dee nile. Going to incorporate it in the post.
Amy Alkon at January 22, 2016 4:27 AM
I'm pretty sure one of my comments about this when it first started bubbling up a couple of years ago was that for the feminazis it was better that 99 innocents get punished than to let one guilty man go free.
I R A Darth Aggie at January 22, 2016 6:51 AM
Jaqi Spir, the Taliban rep from California's 14th district, also sits on the House Armed Services Committee. In April 2015 she introduced H.R. 2190 -the Legal Justice For Servicemembers Act - which includes this language: "The investigative evidentiary burden of proof shall be "clear and convincing evidence."
What? Help! Aaauugh!
Canvasback at January 22, 2016 8:10 AM
Canvasback: Supposedly, the attitude toward Jackie Speier from many on Capitol Hill is that she should have received a few more bullets at Jonestown.
Fayd at January 22, 2016 8:47 AM
"Women, in general, do not care about men in general."
As Florence Nightingale said "Women have no sympathy." She was talking about her own class of course, but that's basically the same class as the people we are talking abut here.
And men don't care about men either. Men are more than willing to destroy other men for the sake of one or more women. It's an function of the Women Are Wonderful effect.
Jim at January 22, 2016 12:16 PM
It's like when you talk to the really die hard eco-nuts or "progressives". The former will often finally admit they'd be perfectly ok with most of the human race dying off. The latter admit they really want control over people's lives. Both have a "the right people" mentality.. the former for those that should be allowed to live, the latter for those that should be allowed to rule.
Miguelitosd at January 22, 2016 1:40 PM
Which is why any man who dates a woman who attends his own college is a fool. Even fraternizing with them is dangerous and should be avoided.
If men follow that advice, I can foresee a day when the university gulag tries to strike back by requiring new students who self-identify as male to attend mandatory socialization classes.
"Women here don't hate you. You don't have to be afraid of them," men will be told, as they role-play scripted social interaction scenarios with women. Just for fun, here are some possible messages that might be served up at this unprecedented nonsense:
== "It's ok to be in a room alone with a woman, or to have women in your study groups and project teams."
== "When it's lunchtime, ask a woman to join you, and ask a woman if you can join her."
== "Here are some of the many activities you can do together with women, just the two of you or in groups: (long list of recreational activities, like working out, going to special lectures, campus theatre groups, shared hobbies, etc.)
== "Socializing can be fun. Always practice safe, consensual socialization!"
Students who feel the need for more information and support are invited to visit the Office of the Director of Socialization.
But that sort of disinformation by the thug elite ruling our universities isn't going to work for very much longer. The rise of alternative educational pathways for men can't come soon enough.
Lastango at January 22, 2016 2:07 PM
Keep in mind at many colleges refusing to have sex with a drunk woman for fear of being accused of rape is considered sexual assault for "withholding affection"
lujlp at January 22, 2016 4:18 PM
I have seen a spate of articles by women pissing and moaning about how hard it is to find a nice guy to have a relationship with.
And they support this crap.
The connection is not made. The penny does not drop. When you make APPROACHING a woman or having SEX with a woman (a frequent male precursor to relationship) into a very delicate and risk laden endeavor...you are going to get a lot less of it.
Here, they can get thrown out of college and have their name stained forever without due process.
Ladies...I foresee a lot more empty nights for you and your daughters unless you start to get some pads of "I will have sex with you" permission slips. (added points if you have check boxes for what exactly you will allow in the encounter)
And you did it to yourselves.
FIDO at January 23, 2016 9:42 PM
Young men are in a quandary with regard to societal expectations on one hand, which tell them that "real men" should form relationships with women and take the initiative, and being accused of "sexual harassment" or "sexual assault" if they misjudge a woman's interest.
Yet one seldom sees the young man's quandary addressed in the mainstream media.
~ T. J. Patriarch
The Jolly Patriarch at January 24, 2016 3:50 PM
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