"Innocence Is Not A Defense": Young Men On Campus Are Getting An Unexpected Education
Male and accused of rape at Harvard? You did it.
The TIME article quoting Harvard law prof Alan Dershowitz is behind a paywall, but here's his quote:
"Harvard's policy was written by people who think sexual assault is so heinous a crime that even innocence is not a defense."
In fact, a defense is not even possible. Here's how it worked at Vassar, from Riversong:
Peter Yu, a Vassar student accused of sexually assaulting a female student last year, wasn't allowed legal representation during the college's investigation of his case, according to his lawyer, Andrew Miltenberg, an attorney with Nesenoff & Miltenberg in New York. As a non-native English speaker from China, Yu wasn't able to tell his story, according to a suit citing Title IX violations filed against the college."If you were a senior in college and had paid $200,000 for your education and were hoping to go to medical school, would you want to put all that on the line without a lawyer?" Miltenberg, who maintains his client's innocence, said in a telephone interview.
Yu was expelled in March. Vassar officials declined to comment.
Here's how it worked for a young wrestler:
Assault on young men on college campuses: a father's perspective 12/18/2014My son, Corey Mock was accused of sexual assault by a young lady named Molly Morris [she had published her name previously] while at the University of Tennessee Chattanooga in the Spring of 2014. I am not writing this to defend my son; the truth is, no one really cares - that's life. I am writing this because I don't want to ever read about this happening to another wrestler again.
My son asked Molly Morris if she wanted to go into the bedroom; she said "yes". They both lay in the bed and began kissing. He removed her pants and performed oral sex. At some point, he stopped to remove his clothes and she removed her bra. He climbed on top of her and after having some trouble entering her, she reached down and guided him inside her. At NO TIME during this encounter did Ms. Morris communicate in any way that she did not wish to engage in sexual activity, verbal or otherwise. She does not dispute that any of these details happened, she merely says she does "not remember" (a toxicology exam a day later was negative confirming there was no drug in her system). Two days later, after a series of very pleasant text message exchanges between the two of them which are in evidence, she suddenly informs him that she "never gave consent to sex".
At the initial hearing conducted by the school, my son was found innocent of all charges. One week later, with absolutely NO additional evidence or explanation, the judge simply reversed her decision.
There has been a fundamental change on college campuses all over this country. In this current culture of "hookups" in lieu of dating, with women every bit as sexually aggressive as men on campuses, parents, wrestling coaches, and wrestlers heading to college need to understand the extent of this new danger. I am not just the father of a wrestler, I am a Division 1 wrestling coach as well and I am very familiar with the college culture.
If a woman accuses you of sexual assault at UTC, you will immediately be removed from the wrestling team prior to any investigation or determination of guilt. YOU HAVE NO CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHTS IN COLLEGE. The colleges have taken the position that you relinquish your rights when you sign the application and the courts have upheld this. This is not just at UTC, this is everywhere. The University or College will do everything in its power to prosecute you and kick you out of school regardless of the evidence and there is absolutely nothing you can do about it, and they know it. You can sue the school and the alleged victim as we are doing, but the minimum cost to sue is $50,000 and the NCAA isn't going to give you your year back if you win.
Here's how it works when the case is where it should be -- in the criminal justice system. Mock's father posted this update:
1/11/2015 - We are finally out of "school court" and in a REAL court system with a REAL judge where they require REAL evidence and are not subject to REAL politics. A place where unlike the colleges, the feminists and activists pushing the man-hating agendas have no power or influence. A real judge reviewed the case and SHE ordered him back in school.
By the way, Dershowitz later dialed back on blaming Harvard, and blamed the federal government, and specifically, the Obama administration -- the source of the "Dear Colleague" letter that turned college campuses into very dangerous places for anyone with a penis.
Remember -- this is just like the Salem Witch Hunts. Whether you actually did anything; whether you actually even know the girl who accused you; that's immaterial.
Her accusation is all it takes to, effectively, burn your future at the stake.
Dershowitz via @SteveStuWill
... and not a single Republican is standing up for me on this issue.
Snoopy at February 24, 2016 2:57 AM
*for men*
Snoopy at February 24, 2016 2:57 AM
When Hillary is "elected" this system will be imposed on the criminal court system.
dee nile at February 24, 2016 4:32 AM
Abstinence might be pretty sound advice but then I'm a religious fanatic not a "right thinking" adult w/some wisdom (as "I survived.")
Bob in Texas at February 24, 2016 5:46 AM
Only trouble with that Bob is the fact that you didn't have sex is not a defense either. You see the same thing in family law. There was a case in Florida where the man was 10 when the child was conceived. It was not possible for him to be the father. Court ruled he had to pay child support. After all, it was in the interest of the child, justice be damned.
Ben at February 24, 2016 5:52 AM
Ben made the point I was about to when I read your comment -- it's one I made in the post. This is just like the Salem Witch Trials. People pointed the finger at people they didn't like or had a grudge against and that was enough.
Amy Alkon at February 24, 2016 6:01 AM
This will end when some guy gets ALL of Harvard's endowment. Meanwhile, the faceless fascists in the government will still be sending out "dear colleague" letters.
I just can't fathom why anyone would vote for Trump. Or cheer the thought of a meteor hitting DC.
MarkD at February 24, 2016 6:14 AM
So when do we start burning them at the stake?
Seth Apex at February 24, 2016 7:36 AM
It may be just like the Witch Trials, but don't expect a nationally renown play/movie to be produced using the Witch Trials as a metaphor for what's going on in universities today.
Kevin Anderson at February 24, 2016 8:09 AM
"So when do we start burning them at the stake?"
When do we start turning the false accusers into strange fruit? That's about what it'll take for anyone to take any notice.
Jim at February 24, 2016 9:41 AM
"When Hillary is "elected" this system will be imposed on the criminal court system."
And if Ted Cruz is elected everyone will have to become Christian or be subjected to public disembowelment.
And if Donald Trump is elected everyone who isn't wealthy will have to be skinned alive and their hides made into seat covers for the rich.
And if - well, whatever. Just make up some other crazy paranoid nonsense and post it!
Gog_Magog_Carpet_Reclaimers at February 24, 2016 10:05 AM
Hey college men: off campus pussy is just as good as on campus pussy. Act accordingly. Just sayin'.
Nick at February 24, 2016 11:05 AM
To add more about it being Witch trials . . .
You do not even have to be present!
Remember one of the Duke Lacrosse players wasn't even present at the party at the time the stripper claimed she was attacked. He clearly had an alibi showing him else where. But, it didn't matter, he was charged anyway.
Luckily, that was a court of law that had something resembling procedures.
Yep, these college "trials" are like the witch hunts of old - no real trial needed; just the accusation.
charles at February 24, 2016 11:38 AM
And yet these college sluts assert an entitlement to respect from men...
Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah!!!!!!!!
Jay R at February 24, 2016 1:45 PM
Present? You don't even have to be conscious. Remember the guy who was charged with assault and kicked out of school, even though his "victim" admitted that he was passed out drunk at the time and she had to do all the work?
Conan the Grammarian at February 24, 2016 1:54 PM
Any man who dates or even socializes with a female who attends his own school is gambling with his own future.
The rise of educational pathway alternatives to the university gulag can't come soon enough.
Lastango at February 24, 2016 4:41 PM
Who exactly drafted the "Dear Colleague" letter that turned college campuses into very dangerous places for anyone with a penis?
Matt at February 24, 2016 8:41 PM
Russlyn Ali, head of the U.S. Education Department’s Office for Civil Rights.
Ironic, isn't it?
Jay R at February 25, 2016 1:25 PM
By the way, she works for a guy named Obama...
Jay R at February 26, 2016 12:48 PM
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