You keep posting this crap about Hillary: we get it. Not voting for ger, she should be in prison. You are the one still saying you'll vote for her. Have you convinced yourself not to, yet?

Fortunately Amy's vote is worthless. Hillary cannot lose California. She'd carry it from a prison cell.

Next time, it'll be different.

As I said before, I'll get outraged about Hillary's email server when the republicans call for Colin Powell to be arrested for using AOL to send his classified emails. And no, email was not some new, barely used technology in the 2000's.

Yes JoJo, lots of people have done BADDDDD things.

Bush, Rice, and on and on. This makes everything HRC did OKAY. WE GET IT.

She, Bill, and Chelsea are worth EVERY $100,000 they've ever received (I'm sure Chelsea was worth $600,000 for that part-time job at NBC), and we who think differently or wonder about the Clinton Foundation are just bitter racists.

We are so fixated on our dislike for the Clintons that we are making mountains out of molehills ("exceedingly careless", using Blackberries in countries we/she knew were capable of hacking them, and so on).

BUT those BUSH' were the ruination of Western Civilization. TERRIBLE.

So HRC (being a woman and not a Bush) is what this country needs.

We should listen to those of you that know better.

One of the big problems causing resentment in Ferguson was that the city was stopping people for minor traffic things and giving tickets, as well as fining people for lack of yard upkeep etc. As Amy mentioned, a $500 fine can be a catastrophe if you are poor.
People can have trouble coping if they are old, sick, mentally unstable, going through divorce, working 2 jobs, etc. They will be unable to maintain their yard nicely or get that tail light fixed. The suburbs are not a baseline for acceptable behavior because the population is self-selected as those together enough to make enough money to live there. The great thing in my mind about rural areas is that they allow trailer parks for those barely making it and tolerate the guy who collects old tractors (as seen on TV antique shows). Why not?

Jojo,

I know you don't want to hear this, but it has already been explained to you that Rice and Powell were operating under a pre-email set of rules; rules which were changed to reflect the greater use of e-mail; rules which Hillary blatantly broke. Rice and Powell conformed to the rules in effect when they were Secretary of State. Hillary did not.

In addition, neither Rice nor Powell used a private server located in their basements and neither of them used non-State e-mail providers exclusively, as Hillary did.

You, and the other Democrats repeating ad nauseam the "Republicans did it too" canard are comparing apples to oranges. Hillary broke the rules, broke the law, and endangered national security.

From Brietbart:

"The new IG report says the State Department’s rules on the use of unclassified email for official business significantly evolved between 2001 and 2009 and provides charts showing how these rules changed over time. The report also noted that State Department employees first acquired desktop access to the Internet under Powell.

According to the IG report, Powell “installed a laptop computer on a private line” in his State Department office for unclassified email access and he used this laptop to send email via his personal email account to his “principal assistants, individual ambassadors, and foreign minister colleagues.” This was permissible in 2001, but would never be allowed today, since the Secretary’s office is a “Secure Compartmented Information Facility” from which personal electronics are banned. State officials also are now required to use the State system to access the Internet; they are not permitted to set up their own official accounts through commercial services.

From The Washington Post:

As The Post's Fact Checker previously wrote about Clinton's predecessors as secretary of state:

Rice rarely used e-mails while secretary. Powell did use his personal account on the job, and by his own admission no longer has access to the account he used then. The State Department, NARA, and Powell’s staff are now working to figure out what e-mails need to be, or could be, retrieved.

By the time Clinton took office, federal expectations for archiving electronic records were clearer than they were under Powell’s tenure. That does not absolve Powell for not being able to locate his records a decade later, or for not turning them over to National Archives back then. But it does mean that Clinton was held to a more definitive standard. Moreover, this common defense among her supporters is used to deflect the central issue: that Clinton exclusively used a personal account, and did not provide records until she was requested to, after she left office. That is the most relevant point, so the Democrats earn Three Pinocchios. [Emphasis mine]

Hillary flat out broke the rules, and knew she was doing so at the time.

Jojjo: I will share your outrage over Powell and defens of HRC:
-Just as soon as I discover that Colin Powell kept a private server in his basement

-Just as soon as HRC satisfactorily explains that deletion of 30,000 emails is not the same thing as the deletion of 18 minutes of audio tape as Nixon did. HRC worked on the committee to impeach Nixon. I wonder if she understands irony ?

-Just as soon as HRC explains that it is o.k. to task her lawyers with deleting her email when those lawyers did NOT have the necessary security clearances to handle classified material.

As I said before, I'll get outraged about Hillary's email server when the republicans call for Colin Powell to be arrested for using AOL to send his classified emails.

I'll see your indignation and ask if you'll be pissed off if a Republican cabinet officer uses a personal email server to avoid having to answer Freedom of Information Act requests?

Then there's the minor problem that Hillary was supposed to turn over all relevant material and documents 30 (or is it 60?) days after leaving State. Missed that by about, oh, two years.

As Amy mentioned, a $500 fine can be a catastrophe if you are poor.

Or if you're just not thinking longer term. For instance, and large number of people simply can't scrape up $400 for an emergency:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2016/05/25/the-shocking-number-of-americans-who-cant-cover-a-400-expense/

About 46 percent of Americans said they did not have enough money to cover a $400 emergency expense. Instead, they would have to put it on a credit card and pay it off over time, borrow from friends or family, or simply not cover it at all.

Depending on circumstances one should have enough savings in an emergency fund to cover 3 to 6 months of expenses.

After reading that report, if it is accurate, a smart lawyer should be able to make the Village of Cahokia cry uncle relatively quickly. Because I'm wondering according to what statute such an arrest and detention is made legal.

Oh, I also lived in Cahokia for a couple of years in the early 80s. I wasn't terribly sad to see "Welcome to Cahokia" in the rear view mirror...

There is no U.S. jurisdiction in which "Well, I'm hardly the first person who ever robbed a bank!" or "Lots of other people have committed fraud, too, so go after them first and then you can come after me!" are defenses to crimes.

As I like to say, "Justice rarely happens chronologically."

Google "Clinton Dead Pool", and see how many people have DIED after doing business with Billary. Why is none of this being mentioned in the mainstream? Obviously, the elections are rigged well in advance.

It does bring to mind the definition of insanity: Voting every four years, and hoping for a different result.

The great thing in my mind about rural areas is that they allow trailer parks for those barely making it and tolerate the guy who collects old tractors (as seen on TV antique shows). Why not?

Craig, what kind of an area do you live in?

"Then there's the minor problem that Hillary was supposed to turn over all relevant material and documents 30 (or is it 60?) days after leaving State. Missed that by about, oh, two years."

Actually, she still hasn't complied, and she has made it clear that she has no intent of complying. Her team deleted a large percentage of the emails on the grounds that they were of a "personal" nature. In the FOIA world, it doesn't matter; if the email was sent using a government system (or a stand-in for one), it's government property.

jd asks what kind of area I live in. I was just thinking of rural areas in oh, Oregon, Washington, Colorado, California, the South...anywhere.
I don't think it should be illegal to be a disorganized slob. I don't want to live next door, but they have a right to live somewhere.