Law Enforcement In Ohio Apparently Unable To Sound Out Words To Motive In OSU Attack
Islam demands the death or conversion of "the infidel," which, no, isn't to say that an individual Muslim necessarily practices this way.
But the Quran is said to have been handed down from Allah to the Angel Gabriel, unlike the Bible, which was written by men. This means that the Quran is said to be unchangeable and unquestionable -- including the violence-commanding verses, which "abrogate" (erase) the peaceful verses earlier in the book, from before Mohammed got power. This he did by not just starting a religion but a religion that gave his followers -- basically early gang members -- the go-ahead to attack and loot passing caravans and then even attack, murder, and rape people living in cities. (The men were slaughtered; the women were turned into sex slaves -- as we see with the modern Yazidi women.)
Here in America, we gave this man a home -- this Somali refugee -- and he repays us by trying to slaughter Americans.
The story, from NBC News's Pete Williams, Tom Winter, Andrew Blankstein, and Tracy Connor:
An Ohio State University student posted a rant shortly before he plowed a car into a campus crowd and stabbed people with a butcher knife in an ambush that ended when a police officer shot him dead, a law enforcement official said.Abdul Razak Ali Artan, 18, wrote on what appears to be his Facebook page that he had reached a "boiling point," made a reference to "lone wolf attacks" and cited radical cleric Anwar al-Awlaki.
"America! Stop interfering with other countries, especially Muslim Ummah [community]. We are not weak. We are not weak, remember that," the post said.
Two hours before that, a cryptic post on the page said: "Forgive and forget. Love."
Officials cautioned that they have not determined a motive for the ambush, which sent 11 people to the hospital Monday morning. A senior law enforcement official told NBC News that investigators are trying to determine whether Artan had personal problems or something else that might have pushed him over the edge.
Personal problems push many people "over the edge," but suicidal people tend not to hurt other people; just themselves.
The more we pretend that Islam is "a religion of peace," which it is anything but, the more we imperil ourselves.
Pew has shown that countless Muslims -- 7 percent in the US -- think suicide bombing is "sometimes justified" against civilian targets. 24 percent of Muslims in Nigeria think that.
I'm an atheist. Anybody have any Christian friends who think it's sometimes okay to blow up people for Jesus? And no, don't cite the absolutely tiny-weenie minority of people over the years who've attacked abortion clinics. First of all, the number is wildly small, and secondly, they aren't doing it because they believe we should all be Christian but because they think abortion is murder. I don't condone their murder, either -- but it's not the same as Islam's commands to spread the religion through violence and death and eventually hammer all of us with Sharia law.
Oh, and PS It's Jews, not Muslims, who are the victims of the most hate attacks in the US.
Here's a glimpse into the life a radical Amish warrior: https://i.sli.mg/egDfcQ.jpg
I R A Darth Aggie at November 29, 2016 6:47 AM
I think the thing to draw from in these attacks on American soil is that they so far seem to be suicidal folks who then draw from their religion and go out in a blaze of religious glory because their afterlife is better than here on earth.
Christians believe God makes and takes life. We don't get to determine that - it's sin to commit suicide (most all pastors do make exceptions for seriously mentally ill/depressed folks, though). That's why Christians don't take out people when they die. There's no good reason to and it gets you punished, not rewarded.
gooseegg at November 29, 2016 7:55 AM
I have to pick a few nits with you Gooseegg. There are plenty of Christians in the military. The have no issues between their religion and shooting the enemy. God is not viewed as the only person who can morally kill in most Christian sects.
Ben at November 29, 2016 9:08 AM
The difference, Ben, is "just war theory".
http://www.iep.utm.edu/justwar/
That generally precludes slaughtering innocents "because you can". So that precludes a Christian from killing random people on the street.
It does not preclude said person from killing someone who kicks in his door with hostile intent. In fact, if you have family, or friends who are unable to defend themselves, you have a moral duty to defend them as well as yourself.
I R A Darth Aggie at November 29, 2016 10:27 AM
I read that he had been concerned about not having a place to pray on campus.
Muslim, Mormon, Buddhist or Quaker — it's not incumbent on any institution anything but silent prayer. If you're impelled by your understanding of religion to stand on your head 20 times a day, that's fine, but why a business like a college should provide Head-Standing Zones is beyond me.
Kevin at November 29, 2016 10:32 AM
No, Amy. Jews are not the most targeted group for hate crimes. It's gays.
When was the last time someone shot up a synagogue and killed 49 people?
Patrick at November 29, 2016 2:53 PM
I agree IRA. That is why it was a nit. I also complain about people who claim 'Thou shalt not kill.' is one of the ten commandments. It isn't. Thou shalt not murder is the correct translation. And there are worlds of difference between killing and murdering. Self defense and war may involve killing without involving murder.
Congrats I guess Patrick. From that graph it looks like hate crimes against Jews have dropped but not changed for LGBT or most other groups.
Ben at November 29, 2016 5:02 PM
The tiny-weenie wildly small number of abortion clinic murderers isn't the only small number that should be being brought forth here. For fucks sake, What is the number of suicide bombers we have had in the U.S? Yes, even one is too much, but fucking hell! How many converts to Islam have been made in the US from suicide bombers? If that's Islams grand strategy, they aren't doing very well. Have some fucking perspective on the size of the damn problem. I don't care what the backward fuckers believe, kill 'em if they try to kill us.
This dipshit wannabe killer was 18. Some young men latch onto stupid ideas. Ever seen Taxi Driver? Loser tries to fill his life with meaning and looks for approval from others, when rejected goes on a suicidal sort of mission. I'm guessing this dipshit has more in common with Travis Bickle sorts than not. As in failed masculinity.
Firmly agree with Crid and Isab on this issue.
Abersouth at November 29, 2016 7:02 PM
Most of the Christians (not true Christians?) I know who have fought in wars and killed people I'm pretty sure aren't versed in the nuances of Just War Theory. It doesn't matter how much Islamic clerics preach that American soldiers get their evil world view from Thomas Aquinas.
People rationalize shit all the time.
Abersouth at November 29, 2016 7:21 PM
It isn't about the individual Abersouth. It is about how those soldiers are treated when they come home. Christian priests don't reject soldiers and veterans as evil murderers. Christian society doesn't reject those who kill in general. It is more complicated than that.
And most soldiers do have a concept of moral and immoral violence. They may not express it in intellectual and rigorous terms. But the basis is still there.
Ben at November 30, 2016 6:08 AM
The issue at hand, though, is that it's not ISIS militants we need to be worried about in the US - it's the lost boys who become depressed and suicidal. It's why accepting into this country these refugees who are young, doctrinated in their own fractured countries as being alpha males and everyone else subservant to them, unable/unwilling to assimilate into our society is such a terrible idea. They have been indoctrinated about converting the world to Islam and taking no prisoners, if you will, not living in peace with one another. Then life does not go their way and they, who have no real home, become suicidal and take out others on their way to glory.
How do you safeguard against this scenario? This is America's biggest threat. We are benevolent- and I do not want to stop being a country who accepts refugees - but how do you foresee this potential in a person? Based on the tenants of their religion, once they become suicidal, it's inevitable they would take out others with them.
gooseegg at November 30, 2016 9:50 AM
Gooseegg touches on something that I worry about. Consider how post-Western feminized society and radical Islam speak to young men:
Post-Western feminized society: "You are defective; you are sub-human. All of the world's problems are caused by you. No woman will ever desire you. You need to eat shit and die."
Radical Islam: "You are valuable; you are powerful. You can play an important role in advancing a great cause. You can become a king among men, and a master of women."
Which do you think is more attractive to a young man? The culture that specifically disowns them, or the one that promises them a place and a role? We should not be surprised if a significant number of young men in the West become home-grown radicals.
(The promise may be hollow... but they don't find that out until later.)
Cousin Dave at November 30, 2016 10:09 AM
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