Ars has put Twitter on their death watch for next year. After all they keep losing money and don't look like that will change any time soon. So how will your life change in a post Twitter world?
How exactly can you imagine he benefited from this "thievery"? And hadn't he paid as much for that information as has any taxpayer?
To cast away every friend you ever had without even a whisper of a goodbye... Including your family and (for a time) your longtime girlfriend... To surrender any future and economic opportunity in 21st century telecom despite the most intimate expertise... To survive momentarily at the whim of a twitching, essentially psychopathic dictator with the largest security & military complex the world has ever known pining for your scalp evermore...
Quite a "thief."
Crid at January 1, 2017 8:02 PM
Crid
at January 2, 2017 10:16 AM
> Ars has put Twitter on their
> death watch for next year.
Last I heard they were making a steady $2B/yr.
Crid
at January 2, 2017 10:17 AM
Another Mattis war story.
I wasn't supposed to eat dinner there—just help serve it—but General Mattis insisted that I sit at his table, probably to break up the all-male atmosphere. A young soldier, probably no more than 18, was at our table. He was starving and devoured his beautiful dinner in just a few minutes. I will never forget the moment when General Mattis took his own untouched meal, cleared the young soldier's plate himself, and gave him a fresh plate of his food. Mattis went without dinner that night, not making a big deal out of it, keeping the table laughing, and making sure all those young warriors were attended to.
Anyway, their new theory – as I understand it, because it seems coherence-challenged – is that the Russians somehow forced us to vote for Trump by releasing authentic emails that revealed the depths of Democrat perfidy and the media’s Clinton collaboration. Basically, the Russians unfairly told us the truth that Democrats and their media minions wanted to deny us, and that “hacked” the election. Oh, and Trump is insufficiently mad about Hillary and Company not being able to effectively hide their web of corruption and lies thanks to John Podesta not understanding that you don’t click the link in the email from the Oil Minister of Nigeria, Crown Prince Goodfellow Scamoscammer.
Crid, "I love being right about everything:
Last I heard they were making a steady $2B/yr."
I'm sure you're just being coy about not knowing the difference between revenue and earnings. The losses at TWTR will be near $400 million this year.
Canvasback
at January 2, 2017 2:09 PM
Crid,
They made $2.21B revenue but I see on google finance an EPS of $-0.55. With 714.90 million shares that comes to a $393 million loss last year. Or a -17% profit margin. So no, they aren't profitable. And unfortunately their revenues and their costs appear to be matched. They've maintained that -17% margin for several years. At some point they'll run out of money.
Actually, yes! It doesn't matter if you make $2.21B if you spent $2.6B to make it.
Also, sorry for piling on. Canvasback's comment wasn't there when I started typing and it took a while to look up good numbers. IRA's link just showed stock price. Which isn't really indicative of profit or loss.
Ben
at January 2, 2017 3:57 PM
Wiki:
"On November 7, 2013, the first day of trading on the NYSE, Twitter shares opened at $26.00 and closed at US$44.90, giving the company a valuation of around US$31 billion."
It would have been fun to have owned some theretofore, no? Yeah, sure: Tech companies compete with lots of other investments in stock markets. But Twitter was almost immediately a success, and is now regarded as being of almost infrastructural importance in social media... You'd be very glad if you'd had a piece at the beginning, and there's no telling what they might do to generate income in years ahead. The last rumor I'd heard about Twitter (maybe a month or two ago) was that Google was taking a peek.
I don't see you guys kicking around on Sealion very often.
Crid
at January 2, 2017 4:17 PM
This is what we prefer to drive when we go out to get wings.
You want to buy some Yahoo! Crid? Within a few years of it's IPO it jumped up by 100x it's opening price. Now, well it's a different story.
The bit about Twitter being of almost infrastructural importance is why I mentioned the story. It is infrastructure that is currently unsustainable. Twitter is bleeding money and it's options to borrow or otherwise generate cash reserves are getting tapped out. It's path to profitability is murky at best. When it can't pay for the servers they will be turned off. Right now Twitter is desperately looking for a buyer. But they haven't found one interested in them at the current price. So what happens when they just can't keep kicking the can down the road? As you allude there isn't really a reasonable competitor. Honestly I don't know. I can't see many of us supporting a Twitter tax which is how we usually pay for infrastructure.
Ben
at January 2, 2017 7:45 PM
> It's path to profitability
> is murky at best.
100 million logging in each and every day, probably 30 million with enthusiasm, maybe 20 million with something approaching need.
Nothing comes to mind? Can't see anything though the murk?
Okay, short it. 03 Jan 17: Noted. Let us know how it works out for you.
Hey Pajamaboy, some guys would like to have a cup of coffee with you.
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-LkFQJ4MhBnE/UKl7mxUaNjI/AAAAAAAA4CE/lgXXE0PCI78/s1600/2nd+Marines+Get+Coffee+Aboard+USS+Middleton+(APA-25)+After+Battle+of+Engebi.jpg
Maybe talk about healthcare or somethin'...
Lastango at January 2, 2017 12:14 AM
Ars has put Twitter on their death watch for next year. After all they keep losing money and don't look like that will change any time soon. So how will your life change in a post Twitter world?
http://arstechnica.com/staff/2016/12/deathwatch-2017-the-most-endangered-tech-companies/
Ben at January 2, 2017 4:30 AM
Actual war on Christmas: Muslim Turks hold man dressed as Santa Claus at gunpoint to protest Christmas celebrations.
http://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/Default.aspx?pageID=517&nID=107901&NewsCatID=341
Amy Alkon at January 2, 2017 4:51 AM
Are lesbians responsible for hipster style?? I remain...skeptical. However, if true, you have some 'splainin' to do, ladies.
https://pjmedia.com/instapundit/253413/
I R A Darth Aggie at January 2, 2017 7:14 AM
Hi, Amy! Here's another one.
Crid at January 2, 2017 10:03 AM
> Opportunistic thief is more
> fitting IMO.
???
How exactly can you imagine he benefited from this "thievery"? And hadn't he paid as much for that information as has any taxpayer?
To cast away every friend you ever had without even a whisper of a goodbye... Including your family and (for a time) your longtime girlfriend... To surrender any future and economic opportunity in 21st century telecom despite the most intimate expertise... To survive momentarily at the whim of a twitching, essentially psychopathic dictator with the largest security & military complex the world has ever known pining for your scalp evermore...
Quite a "thief."
Crid at January 1, 2017 8:02 PM
Crid at January 2, 2017 10:16 AM
> Ars has put Twitter on their
> death watch for next year.
Last I heard they were making a steady $2B/yr.
Crid at January 2, 2017 10:17 AM
Another Mattis war story.
http://www.weeklystandard.com/when-james-mattis-gave-away-his-dinner/article/2006091?custom_click=rss
I R A Darth Aggie at January 2, 2017 10:54 AM
Don't forget to eat the veggies:
https://www.facebook.com/finkleydownfarm/videos/1330231813702118/
Stinky the Clown at January 2, 2017 11:26 AM
TWTR:
http://www.nasdaq.com/symbol/twtr/stock-chart?intraday=off&timeframe=5y&splits=off&earnings=off&movingaverage=None&lowerstudy=volume&comparison=on&index=sp500&drilldown=off
MOAR TWTR:
https://twitter.com/Bmac0507/status/815759452632551424
I R A Darth Aggie at January 2, 2017 12:24 PM
So.. Throwing bacon at Muslims is worse than rape?
https://twitter.com/lilyallen/status/815907315685687296
Sixclaws at January 2, 2017 12:29 PM
"Hacking" the election.
http://townhall.com/columnists/kurtschlichter/2017/01/02/for-democrats-2017-will-be-the-year-of-living-stupidly-n2265749
I R A Darth Aggie at January 2, 2017 12:30 PM
NYTimes goes on safari, encounters strange tribes to the west of the Hudson, is befuddled.
https://twitter.com/smittie61984/status/815927641970774017
I R A Darth Aggie at January 2, 2017 12:49 PM
The gift that keeps on giving.
https://twitter.com/neontaster/status/815581811862630401?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw
I R A Darth Aggie at January 2, 2017 12:56 PM
I love being right about everything: Crid at January 2, 2017 1:23 PM.
Crid at January 2, 2017 1:27 PM
> strange tribes
See this morning's Iowahawk, specifically.
Crid at January 2, 2017 1:58 PM
Crid, "I love being right about everything:
Last I heard they were making a steady $2B/yr."
I'm sure you're just being coy about not knowing the difference between revenue and earnings. The losses at TWTR will be near $400 million this year.
Canvasback at January 2, 2017 2:09 PM
Crid,
They made $2.21B revenue but I see on google finance an EPS of $-0.55. With 714.90 million shares that comes to a $393 million loss last year. Or a -17% profit margin. So no, they aren't profitable. And unfortunately their revenues and their costs appear to be matched. They've maintained that -17% margin for several years. At some point they'll run out of money.
Ben at January 2, 2017 2:14 PM
Cartoon.
jdgalt at January 2, 2017 3:08 PM
> They made $2.21B revenue but...
Totally glad not to own any, right?
Crid at January 2, 2017 3:28 PM
Deadpool ain't kidding around anymore.
Crid at January 2, 2017 3:32 PM
"Totally glad not to own any, right?"
Actually, yes! It doesn't matter if you make $2.21B if you spent $2.6B to make it.
Also, sorry for piling on. Canvasback's comment wasn't there when I started typing and it took a while to look up good numbers. IRA's link just showed stock price. Which isn't really indicative of profit or loss.
Ben at January 2, 2017 3:57 PM
Wiki:
It would have been fun to have owned some theretofore, no? Yeah, sure: Tech companies compete with lots of other investments in stock markets. But Twitter was almost immediately a success, and is now regarded as being of almost infrastructural importance in social media... You'd be very glad if you'd had a piece at the beginning, and there's no telling what they might do to generate income in years ahead. The last rumor I'd heard about Twitter (maybe a month or two ago) was that Google was taking a peek.I don't see you guys kicking around on Sealion very often.
Crid at January 2, 2017 4:17 PM
This is what we prefer to drive when we go out to get wings.
https://www.google.com/search?q=Image&tbm=isch&tbs=simg:CAQSlgEJbLa3uelCIfYaigELEKjU2AQaBAgACAgMCxCwjKcIGmEKXwgDEifCDd8EwQ1x3gS2BJ4Y3QTxDfcNqibQPN8yjyGPIKkmkCGSIc88liEaML15GawpOlWjwFY4wp6lXFOJBanwrcxbsNreOPT84vG0J2MfKcBA-dq6cp113OXdESAEDAsQjq7-CBoKCggIARIEm2iKNAw&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjQ57f546TRAhUn2oMKHRljCKkQwg4IGSgA&biw=1366&bih=655#imgrc=q1DPsSI_IWFmvM%3A
Bob in Texas at January 2, 2017 5:06 PM
I guess the real Blade Runner Future is going to be in Mandarin Chinese
https://twitter.com/Davidramli/status/815832363183677440
Sixclaws at January 2, 2017 5:20 PM
You want to buy some Yahoo! Crid? Within a few years of it's IPO it jumped up by 100x it's opening price. Now, well it's a different story.
The bit about Twitter being of almost infrastructural importance is why I mentioned the story. It is infrastructure that is currently unsustainable. Twitter is bleeding money and it's options to borrow or otherwise generate cash reserves are getting tapped out. It's path to profitability is murky at best. When it can't pay for the servers they will be turned off. Right now Twitter is desperately looking for a buyer. But they haven't found one interested in them at the current price. So what happens when they just can't keep kicking the can down the road? As you allude there isn't really a reasonable competitor. Honestly I don't know. I can't see many of us supporting a Twitter tax which is how we usually pay for infrastructure.
Ben at January 2, 2017 7:45 PM
> It's path to profitability
> is murky at best.
100 million logging in each and every day, probably 30 million with enthusiasm, maybe 20 million with something approaching need.
Nothing comes to mind? Can't see anything though the murk?
Okay, short it. 03 Jan 17: Noted. Let us know how it works out for you.
Crid at January 2, 2017 7:50 PM
Also, follow these two:
They've actually both been a little too quiet since election day. It bugs me to think they might be waiting to see which way the wind blows.Crid at January 3, 2017 8:24 PM
Wrong thread. I feel bad.
Crid at January 3, 2017 8:24 PM
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