Kindly See That The Subject Of Your Boner Meets With Feminist Gamer Approval
One of them tweeted to Polygon's video producer Nick Robinson, "NEWS FLASH: We don't care about your boners." But it seems they very, very much do.
There's a hilarious little brouhaha reported at Heat Street by William Hicks:
The Anita Sarkeesian-owned nonprofit Feminist Frequency has long been criticized for its sex-negative approach to video game criticism. But who knew they would take it a step further by going after the perverse sexual desires of an employee at the uber-progressive gaming site Polygon.In a moment of openness and humility, Polygon's video producer Nick Robinson confessed to his Twitter followers he masturbated to Krystal, the anthropomorphic purple fox from Star Fox Adventures.
Love the feminist tweet about this:
@femfreq
She's LITERALLY trapped in a crystal. Finding a female character who is damseled and stripped of her agency arousing is kinda gross tbh.
I think being "damseled and stripped of (your) agency" sounds kind of hot. Then again, I can think that and even be that, since I have no shortage of agency. (It's the weakiepoos who have to constantly be on guard against being perceived as weak or not putting on some pretend power front at every minute.)
I likewise have no need for scoldy feminists who set up rules about what everybody is and isn't allowed to say, do, and think in order to protect the fragile baby ducks known as women. (Remember when women used to clamor for equal treatment?)
My fave part of Hicks's post:
We at Heat Street have always held a libertarian view towards perverted antisocial kinks like masturbating to anthropomorphic video game characters and we hope Polygon will join us in pushing back against the evils of kink shaming.
I love this Hicks person -- though, admittedly, not in a jerking off to him while picturing his furry purple tail kinda way.
via @CHSommers
I again affirm that the universally respected locution "masturbating to (some stimulating phenomena)" affirms the centrality of music, and perhaps dance, in the citadel of human emotion. Nobody ever talks about this, it's just how everybody describes it, and how everybody else understands.
Crid at March 29, 2017 4:13 AM
Twerkiepoo!
Amy Alkon at March 29, 2017 4:31 AM
I don't believe I would have made that public.
I don't believe I would write or say "tbh" in any context once I passed adolescence.
Old RPM Daddy (OldRPMDaddy at GMail dot com) at March 29, 2017 4:57 AM
These feminists are pissing upstream. I was maybe 15 or 16 when I first heard the phrase "A dick has no conscience."
They should do some homework on this topic. It will help them understand.
Canvasback at March 29, 2017 7:46 AM
Yeah, for a bunch of women who say they don't care about men's sexual preferences, they care an awful lot. Even though what Robinson said was a dumb thing to say in public in this day and age. But had he said something like it in, say, 1970, nobody would have thought twice about it. I think, in a lot of ways women were actually more liberated then than they are now.
Camille Paglia struggled for years to reconcile third-wave and post-modern feminism with sex positivism. She couldn't do it. To rebuild her own feminism, she found that she had to go back to first principles. Having done so makes her a lot more coherent than about 95% of all of the feminists out there. You simply can't take sex negativism out of post-modern feminism. It's a cornerstone. Without it, the whole edifice collapses.
Cousin Dave at March 29, 2017 7:52 AM
"I love this Hicks person -- though, admittedly, not in a jerking off to him while picturing his furry purple tail kinda way."
Nevertheless, I'm wondering if the upcoming Anthrocon convention in Pittsburgh would benefit from having a relationship advice Q&A session with the Advice Goddess, given your focus on applied behavior science.
This comes to mind because I'm finding that a lot of the good dog training instruction I've received also applies to people... so I'm guessing that people-centered behavioral science knowledge might be able to get worked into anthro role playing training sessions/ kinks...
Michelle at March 29, 2017 10:40 AM
> It's a cornerstone. Without it,
> the whole edifice collapses.
That's way harsh. I'm only partly sure it's wrong, but I'm totally sure it's way harsh.
Thinking out loud (can you tell?). Conservatism and sexuality have something in common.
As Burge pointed out on a number of occasions, certain matters exceed the capabilities of policy for redress, or even address. Sorry about your little financial cataclysm, but you kids go on ahead and say whatever you want— The papers are signed and the deal is done and nobody gives a fuck.
This is why I don't care about the collapse of the Republican party, described across my lengthening lifetime as the standard-bearer for American conservatism. But the standard they've actually borne has been tawdry and insincere— No party so obsessed with capital gains taxes has any business passing the fatcat-nourishing that's typified the GOP across the years.
But humanity wants and needs conservative principle, even as political fashions denigrate it; Well, conservatism doesn't give a shit. Those principles will be sitting there, waiting, when people come to need them again. We needn't worry on its behalf.
I doubt feminism was built by women who didn't like fucking. But I can imagine that many of its staunchest exemplars were married to men with whom there wasn't a lot of affection to be shared anyway, though there've always been a terrible number of marriages like that. And I can certainly imagine that a lot of socially sketchy young woman, raised by single mothers or otherwise uncomfortable with masculinity, have brought their small-mindedness into the meetings of feminist groups (long after the heavy lifting was done) poisoning the appeal of the movement for readers of this blog and billions of others.
But as a rule, boners get what boners want, even among harridans. If you're concerned about the death of eroticism, relax. It's stronger than any other force in history. (It *has* to be.) Eroticism doesn't give a shit. Those dorks will be standing there, waiting, when people come to need them again. We needn't worry on their behalf.
Crid at March 29, 2017 11:13 AM
> the upcoming Anthrocon convention
> in Pittsburgh would benefit from
> having a relationship advice Q&A
> session with the Advice Goddess
You should totally go, Amerz.
Crid at March 29, 2017 11:17 AM
"Finding a female character who is damseled and stripped of her agency arousing is kinda gross"
I think Breaking Bad called out that goosestepping little twit and everyone like her:
Well Heil Hitler, bitch.
Gog_Magog_Carpet_Reclaimers at March 29, 2017 11:25 AM
In a moment of openness and humility, Polygon's video producer Nick Robinson confessed to his Twitter followers he masturbated to Krystal, the anthropomorphic purple fox from Star Fox Adventures.
I miss:
- the days when adults behaved like adults and comic books were left to the children
- the days when confessing such a thing would have branded you a nutcase
- the days when such revelations were not described as "a moment of openness and humility"
As for the male/female dynamics here, it seems a level of society best unexamined by people with better things to do.
Kevin at March 29, 2017 11:32 AM
Kevin +1000
Bob in Texas at March 29, 2017 11:39 AM
RPM, Gog and Kevin covered the territory I couldn't find the energy to patrol. Does anyone think the guy was truly wanking at (excuse me, to) cartoons? Isn't it more likely that he's riling up the gamer media for a little more coverage? Either way, do you care?
Remember, the critic posted these words:
The critic wrote that about a cartoon character. (By that I mean, the "character" is not a living entity capable of being constrained or demeaned.) And the critic used all-caps for LITERALLY.There is almost certainly some person in this critic's life who's treating the women and girls nearby in a hurtful way, but I don't think this critic is paying attention. Cartoons are more fun.
Crid at March 29, 2017 12:36 PM
I stopped caring the moment I read her comment. She hasn't thought through the intimacy part of sexual intimacy. What could be more vulnerable than falling asleep with someone? Who does not want to surrender their agency that way, and have it turn out well?
That level of surrender is also required for orgasm, because orgasm takes parts of the brain offline; orgasm requires surrendering control.
Michee at March 29, 2017 1:22 PM
Krystal isn't real. She's not a woman, she's not an actual fox, she's pixels. Who cares? Who worries about the "agency" of a cartoon?
KateC at March 29, 2017 1:35 PM
She's criticizing the guy for what turns him on.
She's not acknowledging though (at least not in the quote) that what turns him on is the compliment to what turns on so many people. Bondage/ Dominance and Submission didn't invent themselves.
Getting turned on by the idea of saving someone who cannot help themselves sounds like a driving force not just for reproduction, but for creating civilization.
Something personal must be stoked by the idea of risking ourselves by extending ourselves to benefit others.
Michelle at March 29, 2017 2:40 PM
"Getting turned on by the idea of saving someone who cannot help themselves sounds like a driving force not just for reproduction"
It's like in the movie Shrek, where the ogre saves the beautiful princess, but she won't kiss him but then turns into a horrible green feminist shrew who now finds her only marriage option suddenly quite attractive.
Sorry, ogre. I meant ogre. Horrible green feminist ogre.
Gog_Magog_Carpet_Reclaimers at March 29, 2017 2:57 PM
"Do you like it when Bugs Bunny dresses up as a girl bunny?" - Garth
Treating this seriously is rewarding it. I suggest we stop.
"You should totally go, Amerz."
I've been trying to get her to go to DragonCon, because they have multiple forums for discussing what she's about, but there's a $$ crunch, y'now. Days at a major 'Con is expensive. We'd have to take up a collection.
Either that or the idea of me shouting with glee is a bit more off-putting than is apparent!
Radwaste at March 29, 2017 3:10 PM
I was thinking prehistoric, more essential to evolution - hunting in packs, the willingness to stay and defend group territory, or wetnurse someone else's young.
I think what you're describing is lack of currency to do better in a market place (although, I remember the Shrek movies differently).
Michelle at March 29, 2017 3:12 PM
Radwaste I thought conventions paid presenters - I didn't realize I was asking AA to lose money. Yikes. M
Michelle at March 29, 2017 3:16 PM
Same here, I had no idea. We could pitch in for an honorarium, but as Amy was probably not planning to move her attention to such audiences anyway... Nevermind.
Crid at March 29, 2017 4:15 PM
Example: Cultural training for men in which they contemplate dying for one another, and how their existence is owed to those who lived and died before them. Finding meaning and other reward in self risk and sacrifice is one of the earliest currencies of civilization, and probably the flip side of that coin has an image of the Damsel In Distress - completely vulnerable and yet everything is going to go well.
In the twentyfirst century, sometimes she looks like a purple fox trapped in a jewel. Or a man who wants to wear a leash while someone leads him around, or lay on his back in a diaper while someone warms his bottle.
Michelle at March 29, 2017 4:22 PM
It's not that I want Amy to move her attention, it's that I want to bring Amy's work and advice column to their attention.
Most of the people who responded to the annual survey of Furries self reported as male, well educated, mostly agnostic or atheist, mostly straight or bisexual, and younger - still new to adult life. They're clearly willing to invest in themselves, and they participate largely for the social network (marketing by word of mouth).
Human nature is human nature, even when the human is wearing a polyester fur suit. The Furries come to Pittsburgh because people have been kind to them here. Amy's advice is well researched, and although her wit is sharp, her approach is often framed by a kindness I find heroic (at least, it would be heroic for me - I'm irritable). And she's hot. The combination of brains, beauty, and kindness made real by her personal presence at this conference might give a much deserved boost to her fan base.
Okay, I'm done stumping for my campaign to get Amy to present at this conference.
Michelle at March 29, 2017 5:15 PM
To all: the DragonCon policy is to apply their "appearance" budget to whom they can get. If they pay William Shatner to appear, it's more than Elonka Dunin will get because of the fan sales difference. Bands, even the favorite band at DragonCon, The Crüxshadows, get admission for performers (not dancers, due to problems with the definition), comped rooms and a merch booth location, and they are good for about 3500 fans by themselves. Travel is up to everyone on their own because the convention cannot warranty arrival or afford to litigate alleged or actual losses.
There is some dickering done because the venue is an excellent launch point for sales of new music or other art. Crüxshadows has knocked Beyoncé and
Madonna off dance charts for a week due to sales there.
These comments are based on conversation with Rogue, the founder of Crüxshadows, otherwise known as Virgil Roger DuPont III (yes, that DuPont).
Radwaste at March 29, 2017 8:43 PM
"We could pitch in for an honorarium, but as Amy was probably not planning to move her attention to such audiences anyway..."
But if it does happen, I'm in.
Cousin Dave at March 30, 2017 7:18 AM
Me too, I'll do airfare. (Coach, but will include money for lunch & a drink at O'Hare or wherever. Maybe someone else can punch her ticket up to 1st.)
Crid at March 30, 2017 4:43 PM
I'd be happy to cover the cost of something. Lodging at the Ace hotel? Or the Marriott, if a hipster boutique is not appealing.
I'm not totally selfless though - I call dibs on an autographed book when the new one comes out.
Also, this is a shameless bid to meet Aida.
Michelle at March 30, 2017 8:07 PM
Ever notice these women never seem to criticizes the female pron, I mean, Romance Novels where women are literally kidnapped and raped until Stockholm syndrome takes hold?
lujlp at March 30, 2017 9:35 PM
Okay, I got meals and local transportation. And I'll go halfsies with someone on upgrading the airfare.
Cousin Dave at March 31, 2017 6:02 AM
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