The Democrats/The Republicans (Pick One) Are Hitler!
I love Reason's Elizabeth Nolan Brown. A tweet on what I call "sleeviegate":
@ENBrown
It has been a rule for decades you lying hysterical fools.
She was replying to this left-tweet about proper dress for the House chambers:
Women aren't allowed to wear sleeveless tops in the House chambers, thanks to Paul Ryan https://t.co/NjpCOt4RLJ pic.twitter.com/bhzj91KzpS
— Liberal Resistance (@LiberalResist) July 6, 2017
Another:
"This dress code has been in effect for decades but now it's LITERALLY The Handmaid's Tale" pic.twitter.com/uwvhDdkElZ
— Ben McDonald (@Bmac0507) July 7, 2017
And a note about modern feminism -- as it's too often practiced:
@DavidQueenann
Men aren't allowed to go sleeveless, either. Jacket and tie required. I was unaware equality meant "women can, but men can't."
Oh, boo hoo. A dress code that affects women. Ask the nearest guy in a dress shirt and a tie if he cares.
I started working in the '80s and have worked in too many companies in which the dress code required of men that they wear dress pants, a dress shirt, brown or black hard-soled shoes, and a tie - and of women that they "dress professionally." And what did "dress professionally" consist of. Well, according to how the women dressed regularly in those companies, it consisted of t-shirts, tank tops, spaghetti-strap camisoles, party dresses, sweat pants, skorts, fluorescent sneakers, and flip-flops.
Fear of a sexual discrimination lawsuit kept most HR departments from issuing serious dress codes for female employees.
When's the last time you saw a Congressman on the floor of the House in a tank top and jeans? Or a polo shirt and khakis? Sleeves are not too much of a burden for female Congressmen. And could be a blessing for the rest of us. Wth an average age in Congress higher than the retirement age, do any of us really want to see Nancy Pelosi's arm fat flappin' in the breeze?
Conan the Grammarian at July 7, 2017 7:07 AM
Wait...men are required to wear throat stranglers? that's sexist!
I R A Darth Aggie at July 7, 2017 7:42 AM
I'm sure her statement plays well with its intended audience and is helping her rake in the donations, which is the goal of most politicians these days.
Shtetl G at July 7, 2017 8:50 AM
Why can't I pick both?
dee nile at July 7, 2017 9:30 AM
Neither men NOR women should wear a "sleeveless" anything in the office work place - no one wants to see your underarms!
Same with open-toed shoes - I don't need to see your feet either!
charles at July 7, 2017 9:59 AM
Paul Ryan is hot.
ahw at July 7, 2017 10:16 AM
One more reason to stay off of Twitter and Facebook.
Gog_Magog_Carpet_Reclaimers at July 7, 2017 12:57 PM
ahw: "Paul Ryan is hot."
If you're turned on by Eddie Munster, yeah, he's a dream.
Patrick at July 7, 2017 4:33 PM
How to cope with heat and still look professional:
Wear sleeveless blouse under suit jacket. Remove suit jacket when outside in sweltering heat. Put it on inside. It's air-conditioned anyway, so you'll probably need it.
If you want comfortable shoes, there are plenty of comfortable but professional shoes with low heels. No need for sneakers, ever.
I used to work at a place that required hose, which is purgatory in summmer (seriously, worse than pants. I think it is the fabric). I used to carry a pair in my handbag on the way to work in summer, then stop in the rest-room as soon as I got there to slip them on.
It's not so difficult.
Gail at July 7, 2017 4:58 PM
So, yeah, zero problem with a dress code that requires women to wear a sleeves, a suit, and real shoes with closed toes. That's perfectly appropriate and fair.
I DO have a problem with a dress code that specifically requires high heels. I know Amy adores them, but they are bad for your back and feet, esp if you need to be on your feet all day, have to walk a lot, or have problems already with your back or feet. Professional shoes need not make you totter and limp.
I also have a problem with a dress code that forbid a woman to wear a pants suit and demand it be a skirt suit. I generally prefer a skirt suit, so it's not that. But pant suits are perfectly professional and more comfortable (no need to worry how you sit or bend over).
But to note, that is putting a woman's dress code on a par with men's, not getting special treatment. Men need not shave their legs and totter around the office on their tippy-toes.
Gail at July 7, 2017 5:39 PM
I completely agree that if men must wear a jacket and tie, wearing sleeves is appropriate. I would have a much harder time with the closed-toed shoes. It seems that when they close the toes, they also narrow them. I haven't been able to find any dressy closed shoes the aren't excruciating.
Jen at July 8, 2017 3:46 AM
@Jen -- you can find comfortable and professional. Look for comfort brands and toes that don't go to ferocious points. Now, if by dressy you mean "sexy", that's much more difficult. I don't look for sexy in an office shoe--I look for suitable and comfortable. I don't want to seduce my colleagues anyway. If I have a function afterwards, I sometimes bring an extra pair of sexier shoes and change into them; suddenly my pencil skirt has a while new look, and wearing the sexy shoes for a couple of hours is much kinder to my feet than wearing them during a 16 hour day.
Gail at July 8, 2017 6:48 AM
"So, yeah, zero problem with a dress code that requires women to wear a sleeves, a suit, and real shoes with closed toes. "
My wife manages medical labs. She is constantly getting crap from a certain subset of the female employees about the dress code requiring closed-toe shoes, for safety reasons.
Cousin Dave at July 10, 2017 7:40 AM
Cousin Dave, have her set up a liability wavier wherein the person wanting to wear open toe shoes waives all rights to sue the company or claim disability when they inevitably get harmed, and that further more they personally will be responsible to pay any deductible and all insurance premium increases for all claims made that can be linked to the unsafe shoes
put in big numbers five or six figure numbers, I bet they stop asking once they are asked to pay
lujlp at July 12, 2017 3:39 PM
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