I really wanted to like this movie, too. And this writer's tastes in movies is very close to my own, so I'll have to give it a pass until it shows up on SyFy (or Amazon Prime).
I really wanted to enjoy this movie. I was prepared to ignore major failings in order to get an awesome space opera fix. I brought my extra-strength suspenders of disbelief, and tried to pretend I didn’t care about character motivation, but it wasn’t enough. Not nearly enough. I found myself actually cringing in my seat, physically curling up in a sort of full-body wince, over and over, right up until the last scene, which was one of the worst of the film.
Those progressive Swedes, they're miles ahead of us as usual! Here, a local politician in a little town called Tingsryd proposes piping music into school lavatories.
Doing so would mask the embarrassing sounds we all make in there, and would, in theory, make the kids a little less averse to taking a bathroom break during school hours.
I can kind of see it, in a way, although the plan assumes that kids are staying out of the bathrooms because of the embarrassing noise potential. That may or may not be true.
Old RPM Daddy (OldRPMDaddy at GMail dot com)
at July 21, 2017 8:19 AM
Personally, I think ANYONE who wallows in the latest slang, political or not, needs to grow up in a hurry and figure out more specific ways to say what they mean. Especially the adults who do it. The slang is just going to get replaced by other slang, and it's not fair to inflict it on children, old people and foreigners - all of them are struggling to understand people, after all. (Also, teachers need to teach proper spelling, grammar, and cliche-avoidance to their students, which can't be done when little kids are allowed to wallow in slang in their writing.)
Whether you're male or female, just because hearing someone's explanation can be embarrassing for you doesn't mean it's automatically rude - or that you won't be better off for having been corrected. Better to have your faulty information corrected in private than to embarrass yourself in front of a large audience later on - it happens.
lenona
at July 21, 2017 8:32 AM
Also, teachers need to teach proper spelling, grammar, and cliche-avoidance to their students, which can't be done when little kids are allowed to wallow in slang in their writing.
But, but, but, that's raaaaaaaacist!
I R A Darth Aggie
at July 21, 2017 8:43 AM
Especially the adults who do it.
_______________________________________
Trouble is, that's MOST American adults under 60 or so! Hard to say what defines an adult in the US anymore.
________________________________________
I don't mean that there isn't room for some slang, of course, as the kids get older. Even some teachers today, when teaching poetry, make kids learn the rules before they're allowed to bend them, so they'll learn, at least, what "to scan" means. (As an intransitive verb, it means "to conform to a metrical pattern," for those who don't know.) Not to mention that writing a really witty limerick is a lot harder than people may think, and you can't even CALL it a limerick without the aabba pattern.
Yeah... That hot young cupcake McArdle (mid-forties?) was talking that way about cinema on a podcast last week.
And being a little older, I'm all, like, why? Why are you surprised? Given the audience composition and fictive parameters of these things, how the HELL could you expect tender emotion or adult nuance?
This has been going on, literally, since Star Wars... Released in May '77, almost the same *day* I left high school. People watch this childish stuff and pretend it's meaningful on subterranean narrative levels. No! These are shitty, often violent & naive movies for teenage boys.
Watch them if you want, but no tears. LITERALLY... These are not movies about or for people who care thoughtfully about things.
Apparently, the pay gaps are unexplained. However, at no point in the article does the writer consider that one person's pay gap might be another's comparative advantage.
Old RPM Daddy (OldRPMDaddy at GMail dot com)
at July 21, 2017 10:53 AM
Shut up, xhe explained. ~ I R A Darth Aggie at July 21, 2017 8:01 AM
So, now "mansplaining" is anytime a man explains something to a woman, even if she's wrong.
Yes, folks, we live in a world where some dude who’s encased his body inside a welded pun can mansplain “tabard” to a female genius.
Well, this female "genius" didn't know what a tabard is, so he explained to her what it is. And now, he's being called out by a Jesebel feminist for "mansplaining" when all he did was explain to her something she didn't know.
So, now all male teachers "mansplain" lessons to their female students? All men who tell a woman how to do something the doesn't know how to do are "mansplaining?" What if she asks him to explain something? Is that still "mansplaining?"
By the way, "genius" is the most over-used term in our social discourse today. Unless you're talking about that physicist guy in the wheelchair or, maybe, Albert Einstein, find another word. Actress and comedienne, Jenny Slater, does not qualify as a "genius," even if she does refer to herself as one and even starred in a movie about a gifted child.
And what does it say about our society that my Mac software does not put a squiggly line under "mansplained" to indicate it is an unknown word?
Conan the Grammarian
at July 21, 2017 11:12 AM
I never used the rest rooms when I went to school. One, they were a great place to be attacked. Couldn't have teachers in there. They might be pedophiles or something is what I heard. So now you have a great place for bigger kids to beat up smaller kids. Two, we never had any time to use them. You get five minutes between classes and some teachers stated before the bell rang. Three, they were filthy. No supervision ment people got up to all kinds of filthy things. Poop all over the walls and such.
Old RPM Daddy (OldRPMDaddy at GMail dot com)
at July 21, 2017 12:29 PM
And here's an example of why I say that it's EVERYONE'S job to cultivate empathy aggressively in young people, boys and girls alike, and keep an eagle eye on them for signs that it's not working. By the time they're adults, it's too late to force them into treatment for any psychopathic tendencies they might have, after all.
Technically, these teens did not commit a crime. Even not calling 911 is not a crime. However, if they'd had any empathy, they WOULD have called 911...right?
I really wanted to like this movie, too. And this writer's tastes in movies is very close to my own, so I'll have to give it a pass until it shows up on SyFy (or Amazon Prime).
http://www.schlockmercenary.com/blog/valerian-and-the-city-of-a-thousand-planets/
I R A Darth Aggie at July 21, 2017 7:41 AM
Shut up, xhe explained.
https://pjmedia.com/trending/2017/07/20/jezebel-shows-why-its-impossible-to-take-feminism-seriously/
I R A Darth Aggie at July 21, 2017 8:01 AM
Those progressive Swedes, they're miles ahead of us as usual! Here, a local politician in a little town called Tingsryd proposes piping music into school lavatories.
Doing so would mask the embarrassing sounds we all make in there, and would, in theory, make the kids a little less averse to taking a bathroom break during school hours.
I can kind of see it, in a way, although the plan assumes that kids are staying out of the bathrooms because of the embarrassing noise potential. That may or may not be true.
Old RPM Daddy (OldRPMDaddy at GMail dot com) at July 21, 2017 8:19 AM
Personally, I think ANYONE who wallows in the latest slang, political or not, needs to grow up in a hurry and figure out more specific ways to say what they mean. Especially the adults who do it. The slang is just going to get replaced by other slang, and it's not fair to inflict it on children, old people and foreigners - all of them are struggling to understand people, after all. (Also, teachers need to teach proper spelling, grammar, and cliche-avoidance to their students, which can't be done when little kids are allowed to wallow in slang in their writing.)
Whether you're male or female, just because hearing someone's explanation can be embarrassing for you doesn't mean it's automatically rude - or that you won't be better off for having been corrected. Better to have your faulty information corrected in private than to embarrass yourself in front of a large audience later on - it happens.
lenona at July 21, 2017 8:32 AM
Also, teachers need to teach proper spelling, grammar, and cliche-avoidance to their students, which can't be done when little kids are allowed to wallow in slang in their writing.
But, but, but, that's raaaaaaaacist!
I R A Darth Aggie at July 21, 2017 8:43 AM
Especially the adults who do it.
_______________________________________
Trouble is, that's MOST American adults under 60 or so! Hard to say what defines an adult in the US anymore.
________________________________________
But, but, but, that's raaaaaaaacist!
__________________________________________
I don't mean that there isn't room for some slang, of course, as the kids get older. Even some teachers today, when teaching poetry, make kids learn the rules before they're allowed to bend them, so they'll learn, at least, what "to scan" means. (As an intransitive verb, it means "to conform to a metrical pattern," for those who don't know.) Not to mention that writing a really witty limerick is a lot harder than people may think, and you can't even CALL it a limerick without the aabba pattern.
lenona at July 21, 2017 9:05 AM
Best.
Crid at July 21, 2017 9:37 AM
> Not nearly enough.
Yeah... That hot young cupcake McArdle (mid-forties?) was talking that way about cinema on a podcast last week.
And being a little older, I'm all, like, why? Why are you surprised? Given the audience composition and fictive parameters of these things, how the HELL could you expect tender emotion or adult nuance?
This has been going on, literally, since Star Wars... Released in May '77, almost the same *day* I left high school. People watch this childish stuff and pretend it's meaningful on subterranean narrative levels. No! These are shitty, often violent & naive movies for teenage boys.
Watch them if you want, but no tears. LITERALLY... These are not movies about or for people who care thoughtfully about things.
Crid at July 21, 2017 9:45 AM
The woman wrote the freaking book but still can't crack the top 100? Silliness.
Crid at July 21, 2017 10:07 AM
From a Swedish English language news site:
Apparently, the pay gaps are unexplained. However, at no point in the article does the writer consider that one person's pay gap might be another's comparative advantage.
Old RPM Daddy (OldRPMDaddy at GMail dot com) at July 21, 2017 10:53 AM
So, now "mansplaining" is anytime a man explains something to a woman, even if she's wrong.
Well, this female "genius" didn't know what a tabard is, so he explained to her what it is. And now, he's being called out by a Jesebel feminist for "mansplaining" when all he did was explain to her something she didn't know.
So, now all male teachers "mansplain" lessons to their female students? All men who tell a woman how to do something the doesn't know how to do are "mansplaining?" What if she asks him to explain something? Is that still "mansplaining?"
By the way, "genius" is the most over-used term in our social discourse today. Unless you're talking about that physicist guy in the wheelchair or, maybe, Albert Einstein, find another word. Actress and comedienne, Jenny Slater, does not qualify as a "genius," even if she does refer to herself as one and even starred in a movie about a gifted child.
And what does it say about our society that my Mac software does not put a squiggly line under "mansplained" to indicate it is an unknown word?
Conan the Grammarian at July 21, 2017 11:12 AM
I never used the rest rooms when I went to school. One, they were a great place to be attacked. Couldn't have teachers in there. They might be pedophiles or something is what I heard. So now you have a great place for bigger kids to beat up smaller kids. Two, we never had any time to use them. You get five minutes between classes and some teachers stated before the bell rang. Three, they were filthy. No supervision ment people got up to all kinds of filthy things. Poop all over the walls and such.
So no, music wouldn't have helped.
Ben at July 21, 2017 11:21 AM
And finally, advice for hiking in Switzerland: Stay away from the cows, dumbass!
Old RPM Daddy (OldRPMDaddy at GMail dot com) at July 21, 2017 12:29 PM
And here's an example of why I say that it's EVERYONE'S job to cultivate empathy aggressively in young people, boys and girls alike, and keep an eagle eye on them for signs that it's not working. By the time they're adults, it's too late to force them into treatment for any psychopathic tendencies they might have, after all.
Technically, these teens did not commit a crime. Even not calling 911 is not a crime. However, if they'd had any empathy, they WOULD have called 911...right?
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2017/07/20/bro-you-scared-to-see-a-dead-person-teens-film-mock-man-as-he-drowned-police-say/?utm_term=.a68266ebbe60
lenona at July 21, 2017 1:15 PM
Another Makes yuh think.
Crid at July 21, 2017 4:25 PM
Via paul
Crid at July 21, 2017 4:32 PM
Moments like these remind us with nearly violent poignance: Trump sucks.
Crid at July 21, 2017 4:58 PM
> Technically, these teens did
> not commit a crime.
To say "technically" overstates things.
They're monsters, but you can't outlaw monsterism. You shouldn't imagine this is an administrative difficulty.
Crid at July 21, 2017 5:03 PM
Winning.
WINNING x 39.
Crid at July 21, 2017 5:05 PM
You should be following Gellman anyway.
Crid at July 21, 2017 5:11 PM
Yeah, this
Crid at July 21, 2017 5:34 PM
C'mon down from there.
Crid at July 21, 2017 6:25 PM
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