Why can’t these people literally go fuck themselves and leave the rest of us alone? Is that really too much to ask?

So, did they refuse to attend Seuss Museum exhibits under the Obama admin?

Dr. Seuss did so much to combat racism with Sneetches...this is an unbelievable accusation.

let me guess, they wanted the chinaman to look like a WASP?

Seuss has a conflicted history with racism.

Some of his early advertising work was racially insensitive by todays hypersensitive standards, but never advocated segregation or African-American subservience.

During World War II, he drew cartoons depicting Japanese-Americans as a fifth column awaiting orders from Tokyo to attack the US. He advocated putting Japanese-Americans in internment camps. His pre-war anti-Asian cartoons were in line with the general public's feeling in 1930s California. He later regretted that viewpoint.

On the other hand, he also drew World War II cartoons condemning northern factories for refusing to employ African-Americans despite a desperate labor shortage. His cartoons were largely anti- Jim Crow and he was an advocate of desegregation.

In the late '30s and early '40s Seuss opposed the isolationism advocated by the "America First" movement. In this, his views were in line with Roosevelt's. He was a socialist and drew cartoons sympathetic to Stalin and Russia's war efforts against the Nazis.

This is a guy dressed like some people dress in China, carrying utensils I use in Japanese restaurants. Is it "racist" to make me look like a white redhead?

Where do we draw that line?

Dr. Seuss Honorable Fifth Column cartoon during World War II.

Is it "racist" to make me look like a white redhead?

No, because you're white and have white privilege, it is perfectly ok to discriminate against you.

Also, as a ginger, you have no soul, so it double-plus good to discriminate against you.

Gotta find a sacred cow to kill. So today Dr. Seuss is on the menu. Tomorrow it will be something else. And since everything is relative (white truth, black truth, asian truth, Amy truth) there are no objective standards. Heck, there isn't even an objective reality. It is all narratives. I.e. stories. The belief is that the stories make the reality. And then you become Stuart Smalley.

https://youtu.be/6ldAQ6Rh5ZI

As IRA points out discrimination isn't the problem. In fact discrimination is a very approved of activity. But it has to be fashionable discrimination. Gotta keep up with toady's new trends and not wear last years clothes.

It's about the context. That's why the management at Warner Brothers decided put up this warning for their old cartoons:

https://ethicsalarms.files.wordpress.com/2015/08/warner-brothers-warning.jpg

Having said that, that's an old cartoon, a product of its time, which is what? Based on a 70-ish years old Dr, Seuss artwork?

Meanwhile, this is sold in Guatemala:

http://rapisuper.com.gt/wp-content/uploads/2017/08/Ina-Chao-Mein-c-soya-200gr.jpg

Actually, that's Seuss' revision of the picture. Here's how he originally drew it:

http://www.theblaze.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/10/Mulberry-Street-269x300.gif

But, as they said on NPR, why take it down? Why not just put a plaque next to it, explaining why he would draw it that way in the 1930s?

It is not allowed to admit that people in the past were part of their times, or that they evolved personally over their lifetime, or that they made mistakes. Washington owned slaves--but never mention that it was illegal to free your slaves until your death, which is what Washington did. Never mention that Jefferson fought to change the laws about slavery such as no new slaves being brought into Virginia (success) and eliminating the manumission law (not success) and that he was too in debt on his deathbed to free his slaves (he was supporting his whole extended family). Cannot admit that Seuss evolved over his lifetime and regretted his earlier decisions, even though Obama was opposed to same-sex marriage even in 2008 and then clearly "evolved" (depending on your feelings about it). It is all black and white (so to speak) and lacking all context or humanity. Now even Lincoln is under attack. There are no humans without sin so there must no longer be heroes. Of course the Left holds up murderers as heroes in a grotesque pretense of being revolutionaries.

He advocated putting Japanese-Americans in internment camps.

So did the democratic congress men, and democratic President

"Why can’t these people literally go fuck themselves and leave the rest of us alone? Is that really too much to ask? "

Yes, it is too much to ask. In the words of Delenn, to media "experts" discussing President Sheridan:
"You do not wish to learn. You wish to speak."

Yeah. Fictional character. We can tell because they have honor.

Why can’t these people literally go fuck themselves and leave the rest of us alone? Is that really too much to ask?

I would like to see these people suffer massive internal injuries as they literally tried to fuck themselves. That would make my day.

Dr. Seuss Honorable Fifth Column cartoon
during World War II.

Conan the Grammarian
at October 7, 2017 6:38 AM

Good grief. The place is the Amazing World of Dr. Seuss Museum. What better place to show his works - warts and all? At a general children's book show, maybe there is an argument to make, but not at a museum specifically for the man's work.

It's a good thing that Melania Trump didn't try to give that librarian books by Beverly Cleary. She's still alive.

Henry Huggins is a Nazi! Ramona's a fat-shaming, slut-shaming fascist.

> the Amazing World of Dr. Seuss
> Museum. What better place to
> show his works - warts and all?

Outstanding question.

The popular mind can no longer handle moral markings, let alone warts, of any kind. Having rejected religion for a few and many bad reasons, they no longer feel anyone should face judgment...

Except other people.

There is no one on the surface of this planet, certainly no one I've loved and admired, who didn't have some serious "warts," with an extra serving of "& all."

Funny how this whole racism concern came up now and not before when another First Lady read to the snowflakes from Dr. Seuss. I wonder why that is.

There is no one on the surface of this planet, certainly no one I've loved and admired, who didn't have some serious "warts," with an extra serving of "& all." ~ Crid at October 8, 2017 1:42 AM

Tearing down heroes seems to be our national sport these days. We demand perfection in those admired by others.

I'll agree with Lisa Yee, and others, when they equally condemn this:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Darlie

What? not a peep from them?

I see it.

That said, it was a different era.

I'm as white as Amy. Is it racist of me to use chopsticks to eat my noodle soup or do I need to muddle along with only a soup spoon?

I have a shelf full of Dr Suess books (and can still quote long bits from memory) long after my children have grown up and left. They are a cultural treasure. If you look hard enough, you can always find racism anywhere you look, even when there's actually none there.

This reminds me of the heyday of Freudianism. Everything was a freudian symbol. Skyscrapers? P*nis. Pyramids? Boobs. Everything was a symbol of our dirty minds. It got really old and silly. How else can you build in a city except up? No one sets out even subconsciously to make a freudian symbol out of their buildings.
So now people complain that the accounting term "in the black" is racist--without understanding that colored (oops) ink was used, and "in the black" is a good thing. Or saying something is black-or-white is bad or saying...which is all just stupid since we must refer to the world somehow.
If there are no standards then there can be no heroes, tear it all down. Oh, wait, we need revolutionary heroes so let's pick Bill Ayers and people who kill cops!!! What a great idea.

If there are no standards then there can be no heroes, tear it all down. Oh, wait, we need revolutionary heroes so let's pick Bill Ayers and people who kill cops!!! What a great idea. ~ cc at October 9, 2017 8:44 AM

Che Guevara, authoritarian socialist, mass murderer, and failed tactician, is still a hero to some.

All you have to do to be hero today is say the words. You don't have to live up to them. Tell people you're for freedom from oppression and they'll fight for your right to oppress them.

So now people complain that the accounting term "in the black" is racist.... ~ cc at October 9, 2017 8:44 AM

As long as you're not niggardly.

In our zeal to find fault with each other, we seem to be regressing intellectually and socially.

We don't study language or vocabulary so any word can be offensive and even the most unintelligible patois takes on an exalted status as a cultural marker.

We don't study history, so we are offended by any character flaw in a once-revered historical figure.

We don't study economics, so any politician promising free bread and circuses for all or to make America great again becomes our savior. Soundbites over substance. And, likely as not, most of the population wouldn't get the "bread and circuses" reference.

We're getting intentionally more ignorant and, as a result, we're more easily offended and ready to take up arms against the offenders.

We're tearing our own country apart for no reason other than we refuse to (or simply cannot) understand each other.