"Believe Women" Weaponizes Accusations Against Men -- And Never Mind Whether There's Anything To Them
An 18-year-old Argentinian boy is dead, by suicide, after he was falsely accused of sexual abuse by his female best friend.
It all started at the beginning of December, then Agustín Muñoz, born in Bariloche, participated in a march of women who, under the motto "Never again, never quieter", gathered dozens of young people in the public center to remember the women who died and put an end to the abuses.On that march a list of alleged abusers was read. It was at that time that her friend A. reported to him for sexual abuse, leaving it behind for those present and later in a publication that went viral on social networks.
"In the middle of that march they shouted his name and he was stunned." The first thing that struck him was running home, he arrived that desperate day and told me what had happened to him, "said Silvina Castañeda, the mother of Agustín, in dialogue with the portal Bariloche 2000.
"When we started looking for the publication, it was already viral."
Social media ruin is no small thing. Augustin eventually killed himself.
Now, it's possible he had serious emotional issues before he was shamed by this lie. However, again, because being ruined virally, on social media, is now effectively being ruined for life -- or could be -- his suicide is reminiscent of the stories I heard of financiers who'd lost everything in The Great Depression jumping off of buildings.
Except that these days, I suspect that many young women are seeing that there's a very low standard of proof for any accusation -- the absolute opposite of how it should be. And evil or just unthinking young women will use or have used it against young men who come into their crosshairs for some reason.
As I have said before -- yes, believe. Believe in due process.
via iFeminists
I can think of no other way to say it: "Believe all women" is the biggest bunch of bullshit I have ever heard.
Jay at January 4, 2019 5:58 AM
From reading the linked story, it seems that Augustin's friend later retracted her whole accusation.
Some friend.
Old RPM Daddy (OldRPMDaddy at GMail dot com) at January 4, 2019 7:28 AM
"Believe in due process" is not really an applicable retort here. Most "believe women" arguments are not made in context of a due process event (i.e., a trial in the legal system), but in the context of a trial by public opinion.
Anita Hill wanted to have her charges against Clarence Thomas admitted to his Senate confirmation hearings without having to appear herself, without even her name being mentioned. Aides to Ted Kennedy and Joe Biden promised her she would not have to appear, but reneged when Senate Republicans insisted on Thomas being able to confront his accuser. Since it wasn't a criminal trial, they could level any accusation they wanted against Thomas.
Democrats wanted charges against Bret Kavanaugh accepted outright without having to present actual evidence or answer questions about the charges - and, ideally, without the accusers having to appear to answer questions. Any evidence or argument that the charges might be unfounded was dismissed as misogyny. The charges made against him ranged from the mildly deranged to the outright fantastic. That none could be proven was irrelevant; they didn't need to be proven.
Campus rape accusations are usually made by young women with almost no clue that such charges have the potential to ruin a life. It's a sad narcissism; "pay attention to meeee." That older, and theoretically wiser, campus officials encourage them is reprehensible, but more often than not a matter of politics.
No one in these cases is asking for a criminal trial. No one wants one. No one wants the rebuttal a criminal trial encompasses. This is all a political game. There is no due process in political games. That lives are ruined in the process is of no consequence to the winner.
As people have started to realize sexual harassment charges are too often little more than gamesmanship, the impact such charges carry is diminishing.
How many soon-to-be ex-husbands were slapped with restraining orders in divorces, hit with allegations of violence or abuse? Gamesmanship by divorce attorneys.
Liberals and feminists have gone to that well too many times. They did the same thing with date rape in the '80s.
This overuse of sexual harassment claims are why a "grab 'em by the p***y" reality tv star got elected president. No one cared that he was a womanizing pig. We'd heard those charges too many times already directed at too many people.
Conan the Grammarian at January 4, 2019 7:45 AM
To borrow a phrase from another context, when everything is rape, nothing is.
To anyone who advocates, consider this statement: "Humans don't lie. Believe all humans." Nearly everyone would agree that this is preposterous, and that anyone who says otherwise is trying to pull a fast one. Now consider: are women human? Of course they are. The advocate argues: "But women are different. They are incapable of lying." First of all, women themselves know better. Just about any woman can come up with times in their life when another woman has lied to them about something non-trivial. (Just as nearly any man can think of something non-trivial about which another man has lied to him.) If that isn't enough, we have the radfem formulation that biology determines nothing about the brain. If it's true that men's brains and women's brains are identical, then how it is that men lie and women don't?
(To which the honest radfem will reply: "Sex determines behavior when I say it does.")
Of course, women are human and therefore fallible. There may be statistical differences in the specific fallabilities of men vs. women. But statistics are averages; they don't tell you much about one individual. It follows from these two things that women are going to lie at least a little bit (because humans lie at least a little bit), and that some women are going to lie a lot, just as some men lie a lot. At any time previously in our history, this would be obvious and would not require explanation.
Cousin Dave at January 4, 2019 8:05 AM
Men are more likely to confront other men in a conflict directly, to negotiate or tell them to back off. Women are more likely to gossip and use verbal invective. Due to women often feeling powerless, this includes lies to get their way. When the emotional brain is in charge (women's feelings are hurt) I have seen all sorts of irrational things said. If a woman feels really really hurt by some situation, it could only be because something really bad happened to her, not that she is overly sensitive or misunderstood the situation.
Since men are more externally oriented, their irrational emotions tend to get more tied up in conspiracy theories (9/11 truthers, holocaust deniers, obama birthers, drug company conspiracies to get us addicted, blah blah) and politics.
cc at January 4, 2019 9:12 AM
And of course, we will never know the identity of the lying bitch. All she had to do to move on with her life is to post I'm swo sowwy teeheehee.
Sixclaws at January 4, 2019 9:23 AM
Go ahead, ladies. Keep piling straw on the camel's back. Never mind the inevitable consequences.
Jay R at January 4, 2019 10:37 AM
I believe that men shot these wedding photos.
Not sure if that helps or not.
Gog_Magog_Carpet_Reclaimers at January 4, 2019 11:38 AM
Why don't we ask Hillary about this every time she appears in public?
Radwaste at January 4, 2019 1:15 PM
Man is accused of raping a goat but he claims he asked the animal's permission first
https://twitter.com/CombatJourno/status/1081304960078434304
Snoopy at January 4, 2019 3:10 PM
"it's not who we are as a nation"
Snoopy at January 4, 2019 3:11 PM
Cousin Dave:
I don't believe that's the rationale. I believe that feminists are trying to convince us that sexual assault and rape are somehow "magical crimes." Because these crimes are the most horrible things that could ever happen to anyone (and conveniently, feminists have maintained that this is something that can only happen to women -- never mind that due to the lax standards with which inmates are supervised, men are the most frequent victims of rape), they somehow become impossible to lie about. And let's face it, there are worse crimes. Murder comes to mind.
The claim that 2% of all rape claims was invented by a judge who did absolutely no research whatsoever into this, but merely assumed it would be about the same as it was for other crimes. When the FBI gives us the number 8%, that is also inaccurate. Feminists have attempted to retain the bogus 2% and claim it's "between 2-8%."
But even that is too low. The 8% figure refers only to those cases that have never made it to trial because even the basic investigation by the police proved that these accusations are demonstrably false.
This doesn't include those cases that have been proven false in a courtroom.
As Radwaste hints at, this is likely due to Hillary's completely outrageous statement that victims of rape and sexual assault "have the right to be believed."
It is incomprehensible that a lawyer would make such an obviously untrue statement. Even she knows, based on her own history as a lawyer, that women can fabricate these accusations; she has defended someone falsely accused at least once.
I wonder if Hillary had ever considered the consequences of such an outrageous statement. The fact that she was making a statement that she must know isn't true merely for the sake of pandering to get the feminist vote is sufficiently unconscionable. But I doubt Hillary considers herself even partially responsible for this.
Patrick at January 4, 2019 4:01 PM
I doubt Hillary cares Patrick. She successfully defended someone she knew to be guilty of rape . . . and then bragged about it.
Ben at January 5, 2019 6:25 AM
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