Happily Ever Asshole
My husband of a year is the most selfish, inconsiderate, cold-shouldered man I've ever known. He's 24; I'm 22. He behaved similarly when we were dating, but when he proposed, he made promises to treat me better, and I believed him. Well, we pretty much only do what he wants to do. If it's an activity for me, he'll whine and act miserable the whole time. He often cancels our plans to hang out with his friends. On our anniversary, we had reservations at a fancy restaurant 45 minutes away. I got ready, and he suddenly decided he didn't want to drive there and took us to some random place nearby. At that point, our evening meant nothing. He is king of the silent treatment and never admits fault or listens to my feelings. We've sought out marriage counseling, but when there's no sex, compromise, communication, or friendship, should I still hold out hope? I'm trying to because I told myself I'd only get married once.
--Upset
It's 2013. You tell people you're divorced and they mumble, "Oh, sorry." They don't put you on a scaffold in the town square to be jeered by all the villagers and then make you go around with a big scarlet "D" sewn on all your clothes.
Our early 20s should be called the Age of Idiocy. Not for all people but for a whole lot of us, including me. Until we figure out that life's hobby is kicking us in the teeth, there's a tendency to just wing it and believe things will turn out okay. Well, there are things -- like signing a contract to spend your life with somebody -- that just shouldn't be, uh, wung. Sure, this guy showed promise as a boyfriend; that is, he made empty promises that he'd be completely different after marriage. For future reference, anybody can say he'll be different. Only after he consistently shows he's different over time does it makes sense to believe him. Unfortunately, it's hard to think so sensibly if, like many early 20-somethings, you see marriage as an express elevator to adulthood: Hop in; press the "just married" button; get off at grownup-land, where you'll magically become mature adults and get on with all that happily ever after stuff.
Your husband has his merits, like that both of his kidneys seem to work and he has yet to express an interest in drowning squirrels. Couples therapy could help -- if you had a guy who just didn't know how to be married but cared deeply for you and wanted to learn. Your husband's behavior, however, reflects the lack of empathy common to narcissists. Empathy isn't something you can train an adult to have -- not to any meaningful degree. What you can do is accept that you were naive and amend your "marry only once" pledge to "marry idiotically only once." You might also take a more positive view of mistakes. They tend to be pretty amazing teachers -- providing we admit we've made them so we can learn from them instead of sticking around to see if we can't make a bunch of sociopathic babies with them.








Except for the couple's ages, this could have been written by my mother. My father treated mom and us kids the same way LW's husband treats her: he acted like it was a major inconvenience to do anything for us.
This guy sounds like a narcissist. I wouldn't wait for him to outgrow it.
Lori Miller at December 3, 2013 3:36 PM
She's still young! What a good time to get divorced.
Mary at December 3, 2013 5:27 PM
Yup, experience is the worst teacher-- she gives the test first and the lesson after.
jefe at December 3, 2013 7:05 PM
Except for the couple's ages, this could have been written by my mother.
Yeah, if not for the ages, I'd be thinking, "Wow looks like my friend's narcissistic, abusive ex-husband managed to find himself a second wife."
It's not just that he can't change. It's that he doesn't want to. LW, when you leave him, he'll probably go on his best behavior for a couple weeks and put in more effort than he has in the entire marriage to win you back. Expect that, and don't fall for it. Oh, and print out Amy's advice (and jefe's quote above) and carry it in your purse!
sofar at December 3, 2013 7:34 PM
don't make a mistake here. people like this never ACTUALLY change. befor you go on for, years and get any children involved, MOA. And remember, you got PRECISELY what you saw, and you accepted it anyway. The lesson there is to know that people MIGHT change, but they don't have to change. Certainly you can't expect them to.
Don't leave yourself hostage to the idea that you'll only marry once. can't correct a mistake unless you correct it.
SwissArmyD at December 3, 2013 10:07 PM
I dunno, it sounds to me like the fellow didn't want to get married in the first place. Maybe he thought that, at 24, he was supposed to. Maybe the LW thought she was supposed to as well.
My guess is, since they've only been at it a year, splitting up might be the way to go. The longer LW waits, the harder it gets. Adding children into the picture makes it even harder. The good news is that LW is still quite young. She just needs to remember that finding and marrying the right guy can take some time, but she has plenty of time available to do it if she wants to.
Old RPM Daddy (OldRPMDaddy at GMail dot com) at December 4, 2013 6:22 AM
This guy sounds ridiculous, but my bet is that they're both ridiculous.
pikachu at December 4, 2013 7:17 AM
To me the most telling line is this.
"He behaved similarly when we were dating, but when he proposed, he made promises to treat me better, and I believed him."
So despite a years worth of evidence to the contrary, the belief that a wedding ring is magic to turn someone into someone else.
It also sounds like they had no common interests. My guess a dozen people advised her to not get married, but she had her eyes shut and put blinders on.
Joe J at December 4, 2013 7:36 AM
"I told myself I'd only get married once."
Yeah, so did I. And I didn't get married until I was twenty-eight. It lasted about two years.
It's okay. We make mistakes. With any luck, we learn from them. Just remember that most people are showing their BEST behavior when they're in courting mode. Things are not likely to go uphill from there.
Pricklypear at December 4, 2013 7:58 AM
Women get married hoping he will change. Men get married hoping she won't.
Both are often disappointed.
Steamer (who lives in an igloo and says "eh" at the end of every sentence) at December 4, 2013 8:45 AM
What Steamer said, eh? LW, it's not too late, you need to get while the gettin's good. Do not pass go, do not collect $200, do NOT listen to his bs. It won't change and neither will he. I wish you well in your next relationship. Just don't be too hasty.
Flynne at December 4, 2013 9:34 AM
LW: Get out now. While you still have your sanity. Your husband is a Cluster B (Google it), and Cluster B's never get better; they only get worse. Call the divorce attorney today. Seriously.
"I'm trying to because I told myself I'd only get married once."
Forget that. You made a mistake. Why punish yourself for the rest of your life for one mistake? Do this one thing, though: After you are free of him, think long and hard about why you are attracted to guys like that. Get some help for it if necessary.
Cousin Dave at December 4, 2013 9:34 AM
Listen to Cousin Dave and all the posters here.
You are young, as in you have at least 50 more years to live. Why waste any more of that time unhappy with this guy?
You have seen him married and unmarried and neither is what you hoped for, want or need.
As a person who grew up with a narcissistic parent and is still struggling to recover at 47, do not inflict this man as a parent on your possible future children. How would you feel watching him behave towards your kids as he has to you? Just, NO!
Like many I said the same thing as you, "I'll only marry once and I will do it right." But sometimes we make bad choices. He was a bad choice.
You are clearly not happy. There is no one reason for you to continue being not happy.
No matter how much he changes once you begin to separate, hold your new found ground.
Remember that even if he hasn't been violent, the result of your ending the relationship may be him acting out HORRIBLY.
Start making a plan today. Get friends on your side who you can stay with if needed, have money set aside to move on with your own life. Call a lawyer as soon as possible.
You made a mistake, we all do. But don't make another one staying in an unhappy marriage, it won't help anyone. You are worthy of love and happiness. Get out there and take charge of the next part of the rest of your life. You are wiser and stronger than you were when you married and you are wise enough and strong enough to change.
We are all rooting for you. People you have never met are in your corner and want good things for you.
AlyInSebby at December 4, 2013 1:31 PM
PLEASE, run, not walk to a divorce lawyer. You have a carbon copy of my ex and I did everything in my power to make him happy until it nearly killed me. I wasted 13 years of my life with him, the only good thing to come out of it is my 9 year old daughter. I should have left him that first year, but I kept "tryinging". You are not a failure to admit defeat, you are strong enough to know what is right for YOU.
Petrat at December 4, 2013 3:01 PM
He sounds just like my sister's ex. Absolutely selfish. He's on his 4th marriage now. His idea of contributing to their daughter's wedding was to pay for his own tux rental and bring a 12-pack of beer to the reception.
I told myself I'd only get married once, too. Guess what? He dropped dead of an aortic aneurysm at age 48, after 23 years of marriage. I'm not looking for sympathy, but I am looking to get married again someday under the right circumstances (not perfection, but more than a pulse and a working penis).
My point is, SHIT HAPPENS. Whether it's death, the marriage was a mistake, aliens, rabid goats, whatever. Nothing is set in stone in this life.
PinkieLeStrange at December 4, 2013 5:11 PM
"For future reference, anybody can say he'll be different. Only after he consistently shows he's different over time does it makes sense to believe him." I really like this advice. The best prediction of future behavior is past behavior.
It does remind me a bit about the joke "How many shrinks does it take to change a light bulb?" "Only 1, but the light bulb *really* has to want to change."
Kristina L at December 4, 2013 6:24 PM
"wung"
I'm gonna be using that, thanks Amy!
Ditto to what everybody else said. Plus this: LW, don't let your own ego keep both of you miserable. It's time to call it a day, just accept it and move on.
bkmale at December 5, 2013 7:40 AM
I told myself I'd only get married once.
Forgive me for stating the obvious, but you can divorce the jerk and still keep this promise to yourself.
Rex Little at December 5, 2013 9:37 AM
Sometimes I think someone will write to Amy:
"My husband gave me AIDS, he beats the shit out of me, and he told me hates me. He said 20 years ago he would change but he hasn't. Every time I bring it up he said we need counseling. Should I leave him?"
Ppen at December 5, 2013 12:18 PM
LW, please, for the sake of all that's holy, get out now before you add children to the mix.
My mother was just like your husband, and when she wasn't making my dad miserable, she was abusing me, or my little brother and sister. I spent most of my time getting in between her and the littles because I was 6 years older than them and could take more punishment, but even now, after 30+ years and her dead and buried, I still have nightmares.
Look at yourself in the mirror, ask yourself what you would do if you saw him treat your child the way he treats you. If the answer is "Get up and leave." Then do it, NOW, before he has a chance to traumatize another, more vulnerable person in your life.
Kat at December 5, 2013 1:59 PM
I've got to wonder what he gets out of this marriage. Not sex, from what she said. It sounds like he spends most of his time either doing things with her that he doesn't enjoy, or promising to do them to shut her up, then weaseling out.
I'd say both of them would benefit from a divorce. And for whichever one makes the most money, and therefore will be paying spousal support, the sooner the better. That bill only gets bigger the longer you sit at the table without saying "Check, please."
Rex Little at December 5, 2013 4:15 PM
Take this medicine, too: many tragedies in marriage are started by unreal expectations. She thinks she can change him, but he never changes; he hopes she'll never change, but she does...
Radwaste at December 5, 2013 11:40 PM
Spot on, Amy. Yeah, it was stupid of her to marry this selfish loser. But thankfully, this mistake can be shed and she should be grateful that she has a way before she started having kids.
And yes, this guy exhibits some narcissistic traits. He'd probably argue that milk comes from telephone poles, just because he said so!
Patrick at December 7, 2013 9:38 AM
Hmm. She needs a divorce and some escape funds. He He has two fuctional kidneys.
Sounds like she needs a motel room with a bathtub, an unscrupulous surgeon, and a LOT of ice.....
Keith Glass at December 7, 2013 11:51 AM
LW sounds like she's looking for emotional permission to break her "one marriage" promise to self. She sure got it.
I once did exactly what Kat suggests - took a good look at myself and projected out ten years, and what would my daughter think of me if I stayed? If I left? Then I started making my escape plan. It was surprising how easy it was - emotionally as well as all other ways. I never looked back. LW, you have an advantage if you have no children. You'll never have to deal with the idiot again!
Laurie at December 10, 2013 3:28 PM
If getting married only once is so dang important (yeah, I tell myself that, too) then ask a lawyer if there are grounds for an annulment here. You could find yourself unmarried. Just a thought.
HaHaHa at December 11, 2013 6:03 PM
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