Kin I See You Naked?
I'm 22 and deeply in love with the wrong person -- my uncle-in-law (my mom's sister's husband). We started confiding in each other, one thing led to another, and we've been sleeping together for over a year. I'm so drawn to him. He's magnetic, charming, a great person, and a devoted dad. I know I need to end this, and before my family discovers it, but my lust for him seems insatiable.
--Drowning
It's sometimes good to confide things of a personal nature to one's uncle -- like that your mother always loved your brother more, not that you aren't wearing any panties.
Don't kid yourself that you're into the guy for all of his great qualities, like what a "devoted dad" he is -- a term not typically used to describe a dad devoted to sneaking out to meet his niece for sex. Your "insatiability" is textbook behavioral conditioning. Lab rats that only sporadically get a pellet when they push the little bar become obsessed with pushing it. Rats that get a pellet every time will stop pushing when they're no longer hungry and go about their ratty business. Likewise, if this guy were totally available -- if you could get sex pellets on demand -- you'd stop seeing him through a junkie's glazed eyes and notice who he actually is: a guy who doesn't care enough about devastating his wife and kids to keep his willy in its cage.
You aren't going to stop lusting after Uncle Romeo; what you can stop is the behavior that follows: running off to have a sex date with him. Tell him it's over, and then come up with replacement behavior -- maybe doing an hour of killer cardio -- to plug in whenever the uncle lust bubbles up. To help maintain your resolve, especially at first, consider the kind of woman you want to be. Do the sorts of things this woman would do and avoid doing the sorts of things (and people) she wouldn't. For example, it might be nice to find a guy who loves being around your family, but not because he's already married to somebody in it. And finally, when you're thinking of activities more in keeping with the new you, consider the obvious -- that if you're meeting your sex partners at family gatherings, you really need to get out more.








That about covers it. I was just going to go on about forbidden fruit, the thrill of the whole dirty little secret... anyway, what's probably going to happen is you're going to get caught. You've probably left your laptop open with this letter hoping someone will catch you and rip the scab off this whole nasty thing.
You guys are going to hurt your aunt, the kids, your mother, and everyone else that's important to you. And maybe that will knock the blinders off.
Orrrrr....maybe you'll get all "the whole world is against us, my darling!" about it and the two of you will run off together to show everyone how wrong they are. You'll last a couple of months, maybe. Jeezus, don't get pregnant!
Pricklypear at January 21, 2014 9:13 PM
Let's get one thing straight. You are not "in love" with your Uncle( he is your uncle, no such thing as an UIL) you are in Lust with him. You are having sex with him, and that's it.
When you are caught, you will be the one blamed. Your family will be ripped apart, and your Uncle will probably be forgiven and you will be shunned.
Oh, and just think about the reputation you will have as the woman that tried to steal her Aunt's husband! Neighborhood gossips will have a field day with that one.
If you care about your family at all, stop this now. Your Aunt and cousins do not deserve the pain that you and your Uncle are going to cause them.
Kat at January 21, 2014 10:49 PM
Yep, what everyone's said so far. Quit while you're ahead of the game, before you get caught.
Flynne at January 22, 2014 3:27 AM
Um ... Ew!
becky at January 22, 2014 4:30 AM
I'm My Own Grandpa - Ray Stevens:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eYlJH81dSiw
Snoopy at January 22, 2014 4:56 AM
This is disgusting. I cannot even muster the sympathy for this woman (or man for that matter) to offer anything more productive.
Sabrina at January 22, 2014 5:24 AM
Damn it, Rachel! I knew you couldn't keep a secret! You're just like your aunt!
whistleDick at January 22, 2014 5:47 AM
I think it is interesting how she described him. She doesn't say, "he is my aunt's husband", instead she says,"my mother's sister's husband" as if that will make it less incestuous. This is really gross because you have to figure he has been grooming her for quite awhile. My guess is he started while she was still in high school and just waited until she was legal to pounce. Either way, it is disgusting behavior by both parties and let us all hope she doesn't "accidentally" get pregnant.
Sheep mommy at January 22, 2014 6:33 AM
Eventually, people who do this sort of thing get busted.
Yes - you CAN make a drunken mistake and then bury it under a rug, and it will probably stay there.
This isn't what we're talking about here. Sustained behavior like this WILL get discovered.
E-mail sent to the wrong address. Tablet left on and open. Burner phone left lying around.
Sooner or later you get careless or unlucky, and then there's a giant mess.
Lamont Cranston at January 22, 2014 6:52 AM
Tell him it's over, and then come up with replacement behavior...
THIS! Come up with something very specific that forces you to get out of the house, interact with other people and feel GOOD about yourself. Last time I was getting over someone I KNEW I had to stop seeing, my go-to was volunteering. Puts things in perspective, and, since you'll usually have to sign up for a shift/event in advance, it makes it tougher to flake (or make you feel bad about flaking).
Or learn a new skill (ballroom dancing, martial arts, oil painting, a new language, whatever). The key is to replace wasted time with productive time. This conditions you to realize that your time has WORTH. You can spend it on a toxic relationship, or you can spend it in a way that leaves you something to show for it.
sofar at January 22, 2014 7:02 AM
> This is really gross because you have to figure
> he has been grooming her for quite awhile. My
> guess is he started while she was still in high
> school and just waited until she was legal to
> pounce.
Why would you assume her aunt has been married for more than a couple of years?
Snoopy at January 22, 2014 7:38 AM
LW, enjoy it!
It is not incestuous and the mother's sister is to blame for this.
Get knocked up by this magnetic, charming, a great person. This and the sex will make you smart enough to cover this affair for a long time. Then write a novel.
Mere Mortal at January 22, 2014 7:41 AM
Cunning. He picks a young woman in the prime of her fertility hotness and who has an equal if not greater stake in protecting his family from finding out.
Girl, you have not just been charmed, you have been outsmarted; you have been had.
And if he wants a divorce, leaving a trail of crumbs that lead your aunt to you is an easy way to diffuse the blows.
Consider shopping around for a counselor you trust, and bringing your mom in for a session in which you come clean. You have a chance to get ahead of this.
There is a reason why "young and dumb" is a cliche. Get out ahead of this now, come clean with your mother, enlist her support in damage control. It will suck now, but ten years from now you can look back on the time when you were young and gullible, and more importantly you can create a clean slate in which to build a solid foundation for a worthwhile future.
Michelle at January 22, 2014 7:44 AM
Snoopy,
That is a good point and you are right. For all we know, LW's aunt is a cougar and this guy is her boy-toy. I stand corrected.
Michelle,
I think you make excellent points, but I am not sure that I totally agree with you that she should confess to her mother. That puts her mother in a very awkward position with her sister and I am not convinced it is fair for the LW to dump this in her mother's lap like a load of dirty laundry. LW is 22 and not a child. She made this mess and she should clean it up. If the uncle is a serial cheater (as I suspect he is), he will get caught eventually.
Sheep mommy at January 22, 2014 8:44 AM
" a great person, and a devoted dad", um no.
What's the difference between a great person and a lying cheating bastard: she thinks he's hot.
Joe J at January 22, 2014 8:56 AM
Quite a few commenters are making the assumption that the uncle-in-law made the first moves. I don't read that anywhere. Young women can be aggressive these days. Maybe she's the one who got this party started.
Laurie at January 22, 2014 12:11 PM
That last sentence of yours, Amy, almost made me spit diet Coke all over my monitor. I needed that laugh, thank you!
Pinkie LeStrange at January 22, 2014 1:01 PM
SheepM, I agree with most of what you've said, with two exceptions:
Mom is already in the middle of this, she just doesn't know about it yet. And when Aunt finds out, and calls Mom, I think Mom can be a better support to Aunt if she's already had some time and assistance in dealing with the mess. All the better if she's confident the affair is over.
Cutting it out is distinct from cleaning it up.
To the extent letter writer is unwilling to come clean to her mother, Uncle Charming can leverage that against her, which he might do if she decides to pursue a relationship with another man (and preferably a healthier power dynamic).
Credibility matters, and letter writer will have more of it if she takes initiative rather than batting clean up after Uncle gets sloppy.
Michelle at January 22, 2014 1:24 PM
Amy Alkon
https://www.advicegoddess.com/ag-column-archives/2014/01/kin-i-see-you-n.html#comment-4215407">comment from Pinkie LeStrangeThank you, Pinkie…and I needed that compliment! (At least it felt pretty nice!)
Amy Alkon
at January 22, 2014 4:19 PM
Why would you assume her aunt has been married for more than a couple of years?
It's not conclusive, but the "devoted dad" description suggests they've been married long enough to have kids who aren't infants.
Usually these letters contain more information than what Amy publishes. What about it, Amy--did the LW reveal how long she's known this guy, how long he's been married to her aunt, or any of the other stuff that commenters are speculating about?
Rex Little at January 23, 2014 12:24 AM
Amy Alkon
https://www.advicegoddess.com/ag-column-archives/2014/01/kin-i-see-you-n.html#comment-4216639">comment from Rex LittleThey have children. This has been going on for a few years and the uncle and his wife have presumably been married for at least a few years before that. I don't care if they've been married for six months. You don't fuck your mom's sister's husband.
Amy Alkon
at January 23, 2014 6:27 AM
"to pursue a relationship with another man (and preferably a healthier power dynamic)."
So you're saying the uncle is the employer?
Sorry! Had to do it!
Ppen at January 23, 2014 8:19 AM
Amy Alkon
https://www.advicegoddess.com/ag-column-archives/2014/01/kin-i-see-you-n.html#comment-4216949">comment from PpenPPen, you're the best!
Amy Alkon
at January 23, 2014 9:20 AM
"They have children."
Ouch. The fact that they have children makes it 1000% worse. Are the children grown and independent, or are they young? If they're young, they could be seriously emotionally scarred for the rest of their lives, much more so than an adult, due to the betrayal by close family, and the inevitably bitter divorce.
"This has been going on for a few years..."
So, how many years is a few? The published letter says they've been sleeping together for "over a year," which to me implies a year plus a couple months, but Amy you say this has been going on "for a few years." I'm a bit confused as to the length of the sexual part of this relationship. If this started when she was a minor, then that's a really nasty can of worms, and raises a lot of disturbing questions about the uncle, such as "What kind of freak pulls Game on his niece?" and "What ELSE is he doing?"
Grizzly at January 24, 2014 1:18 PM
This exact scenario created a rift in our family nearly 30 years ago that has never healed. I can't imagine any sex worth having people you love never speak to you again, which very well could include her mother.
Peggy Y at January 24, 2014 2:28 PM
Amy Alkon
https://www.advicegoddess.com/ag-column-archives/2014/01/kin-i-see-you-n.html#comment-4219275">comment from GrizzlyThey started sleeping together a little over a year ago, but had been getting together before that.
Amy Alkon
at January 24, 2014 2:28 PM
Amy Alkon
https://www.advicegoddess.com/ag-column-archives/2014/01/kin-i-see-you-n.html#comment-4219286">comment from Peggy YExactly, Peggy. A father and husband who takes this sort of risk is a really narcissistic and horrible person.
Amy Alkon
at January 24, 2014 2:40 PM
I have nothing to add to the comments above, except that I think this is definitely going to be found out. Maybe the uncle will have a sudden surge of guilt feelings and confess to his wife, bringing roses and begging for forgiveness, especially when his hot but stupid niece announces that the affair is over.
LW, you might stop banging your uncle, but you are still going to be fucked by him.
Patrick at January 24, 2014 3:18 PM
Ppen for the stealth thread win!
Michelle at January 25, 2014 7:23 AM
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