Youth Hostile
I'm a 35-year-old woman who's been married for a year to a 70-year-old man. My husband's closest female friend is also one of his exes. He's known her for 40 years. She's a real sore point for me. She stayed at our apartment while we were away. She wouldn't reply to any of my emails but constantly emailed my husband. Recently, I saw a text my husband sent telling her to just email him at work because I have access to his phone. (That's how I discovered that she was dissuading him from fixing things with me when we were fighting.) I feel that a husband shouldn't have marriage-undermining friendships. I want him to stop talking with her. Am I wrong here?
--Angry
Take a counterintuitive approach and put yourself in this woman's shoes: Where's she supposed to shop for men...the cemetery?
Older women get seriously annoyed at how men their age -- typically the wealthiest and most eligible -- dip down through the decades for partners. On dating sites, even a 98-year-old man in an iron lung will set his age preference at 18-30, just in case some woman is "open-minded" (uh, about dating a man who has socks far older than she is).
Another thing to consider: In a relationship, it's common to ask for and expect sexual fidelity. But how much social fidelity is it reasonable to expect? The notion that a relationship involves becoming somebody's "one and only" socially, too, sounds romantic but is actually in sharp conflict with the complexity of many people's lives. Your husband, for example, has had a friendship with this woman for 40 years -- five years longer than you've even been on the planet. His cutting her out of his life would mean cutting out somebody who understands who he is and where he's been in a way few people probably do.
That said, it's natural that you'd wish he'd give this woman the heave-ho. The jealousy that gives rise to feelings like this is wrongly maligned as a "bad" emotion. However, like all emotions, it's actually "adaptive" -- which is to say functional. Evolutionary psychologist David Buss explains that jealousy seems to have evolved to protect us against threats to our relationship -- alerting us to possibilities that our partner will cheat on us or leave us for another. But jealousy can also be toxic to a relationship and damaging to the mate value of the partner who expresses it. (Nothing like endlessly fretting to your mate that he could trade up to suggest that he should.)
Additionally, consider how counterproductive it often is to tell somebody what to do. The late social psychologist Jack Brehm came up with the term "psychological reactance" to describe a motivational state that automatically rises up in us when we feel our freedom to do as we choose is threatened. Basically, the more somebody tries to control our behavior the more we want to resist, rebel -- do whatever they've been trying to stop us from doing. (In short, nothing like being shown that there are straps to put someone in a mind to gnaw through them.)
This isn't to say you're necessarily off base about this woman. Chances are, she resents you and is trying to chip away at your bond with your husband. Rotten. However, as for how successful she could be, do you think your husband married you by accident? Like maybe you just happened to be in the passenger seat when he pulled into a drive-thru chapel: "Oops. Thought this was a car wash."
As annoying as it must be to have this woman lurking around the borders of your marriage, consider the thinking from psychologist Erich Fromm that love is not just a feeling but something you do -- sometimes by being a little more generous than you'd really like to be. This isn't to say you have to shut up entirely about this woman. You can be honest with your husband that you find her undermining.
Ironically, the best way to control your romantic partner is not by trying to control them but by being so loving, supportive, kind, and fun that it would be idiotic for them to leave you. Also, let's quash any fear you might have that this woman could steal your husband. There's little novelty (and thus little excitement) in getting together with somebody one's known and been in touch with for 40 years. Also, recall how men, throughout their life span, tend to be most attracted to the younger ladies. Chances are, if he were to suddenly develop a thing for anything "midcentury," it would be something like Eames chairs -- not a woman who's aged out of every dating program on TV, unless, of course, you count "Antiques Roadshow."








Sigh...it's not easy being a "boy toy". Let's face it, there are women men like to LOOK at and women men like to BE WITH. This man has far more in common with the older woman than he does with his bride and that will always be the case.
Jan at April 10, 2019 3:30 AM
Sigh...it's not easy being a 'boy toy'. Let's face it, there are women men like to LOOK at and those they like to BE WITH. This man has far more in common with the older woman than he does with his bride and that will always be the case.
Jan at April 10, 2019 3:32 AM
"she was dissuading him from fixing things with me when we were fighting."
"fixing" could be almost anything. Have seen too many where someones idea of fixing was give in to all of my demands.
Joe J at April 10, 2019 6:42 PM
How long was he with her? Did they have kids? What number wife was she?
It may be he still sees her as his companion and you as his "fun". Seems like she sees it that way.
NicoleK at April 11, 2019 2:17 AM
Sorry Amy, but you blew it on this one. If LW's account is true, then the husband is being duplicitous and disloyal to his wife, to whom he has a far greater duty of loyalty than to some past girlfriend, no matter how long he's known the former squeeze. No man that is a man in any way that matters tolerates disrespectful behavior toward his wife by anyone. And the husband's behavior reflects poorly on himself in other ways. First, it shows him to be foolish - any friend of his that would so obviously disrespect his spouse that way is clearly a person of poor character or is defective emotionally or mentally to some degree. That is not the kind of person that husband ought to be investing time in and he's a fool for doing so. Husband's behavior also exposes him as weak -- afraid to stand up for his own wife. There are times when flexibility and accommodation are appropriate, and there are times when they are not, for contrary to the sophomoric old expression, everything is NOT negotiable. Yet another problem with your advice is the presumption that just because hubby has a longstanding relationship with the ex, that some that makes it worth preserving in its own right. Not so. Some things are meant to last forever, and some aren't -- and that includes past relationships. "love is not just a feeling but something you do -- sometimes by being a little more generous than you'd really like to be." True, but inapplicable in this situation. Fromm's advice is valid, say, when my Dad comes to visit and I have to leave my wife alone with him listening to conspiracy theories all day because I have to represent a client in court that day; or when my 46th firearm arrives because the 45 I already own just wasn't quite enough; or when I spend $750 on first editions and original research materials because the perfectly useable reprints and online copies just won't do for me. Fromm's advice is categorically NOT applicable when being a little more generous than you want to be means tolerating fundamentally demeaning or disrespectful treatment -- which, make no mistake, is just what husband and old flame are subjecting the LW to. Frankly, if LW doesn't have kids with this jerk, she might be better served to serve HIM with divorce papers and leave him to the tender mercies of the wood-be homewrecker that he can't let go of. But, she seems to love him and, unlike hubby, seems to care about her responsibilities as a spouse. In any case, your advice to her has a strong whiff of appeasement about it, and the only impact it is going to have on hubby and the twit from his past is make them both hold LW in even more contempt than they obviously do already. LW needs to stand up for herself, and if hubby won't shape up and cut ties with this mummy from his past, LW might be better served to walk (and take some of hubby's money with her).
Dennis at April 15, 2019 6:46 PM
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