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Old RPM Daddy (OldRPMDaddy at GMail dot com)
at January 29, 2014 7:39 AM
Their produce killed 33 people because they didn't sterilize the melons, and they faced ONLY SIX YEARS IN PRISON???
Whatever happened to 33 counts of manslaughter, or even 33 counts of depraved indifference homicide? That would have been good for at least 50 years, I reckon.
mpetrie98
at January 29, 2014 8:09 AM
Well, what can one say; those "anti-gay bigots" at Chick-Fil-A are up to more shenanigans:
Our job is to reverse these trends. It won’t happen right away, and we won’t agree on everything. But what I offer tonight is a set of concrete, practical proposals to speed up growth, strengthen the middle class, and build new ladders of opportunity into the middle class. Some require Congressional action, and I’m eager to work with all of you. But America does not stand still – and neither will I. So wherever and whenever I can take steps without legislation to expand opportunity for more American families, that’s what I’m going to do.
And what adds irony to this is that Natalie Portman has dual American and Israeli citizenship. But she supports(ed) Obama up to and including doing ads and campaigning for him.
1. Was it proved that the deliberately failed to serialize the melons or was it an accident?
2. Could said death melons have been serialized in the kitchen of those who bought them? When I buy produce I wash it (with a touch of bleach) and dry it before it goes in the fridge and then wash it again before I eat it.
3. They were inspected and approved for selling food under the regulatory and inspection programs of the Federal government Radwaste, that means we use the time machine to go back and prevent them from dying right?
You argue that lack of federal inspection means we can resurrect the dead, ergo the inverse is resurrection is possible if the feds approve the sale, right?
No, luj, missed the target, missed the barn it was stuck to.
Inspection is part of a process which recognizes that there is a path to be taken to deliver a safe product.
Per the story, having the equipment does not mean it gets used. The takeaway here should be that some people are slackers - that some must be forced to follow a process that produces a safe product.
The better the process, the more reliable it is, and fewer inspections are required.
And the key, again, is that only prevention is effective, because no amount of money can take away an injury or death.
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Consumer protection depends on a process. Ideally, it allows the retailer of a service or product to present same to the customer without interruption or worker input to correct the process.
For instance - and I repeat myself - the Happy Cow Creamery, in SC, sells raw milk and other goods without chemical treatment. An inventive owner converted to the current process when he was looking to improve the quality of his product, at a time when the industry was looking to increase quantity. Clemson and University of South Carolina ag departments showed up to study it, and State inspectors found the idea practically flaw-free from the beginning: as there were no chemicals administered, their job was drastically simplified.
But the key here is that the process Happy Cow uses is monitored. "Inspection" does NOT mean that only the end product is checked!
You can't be poisoned at Happy Cow, because they don't recycle feed, or water, or use poisonous chemicals (and I do not mean "Hollywood" poisonous).
If these people selling melons knew what they were doing, no one would have died.
Now - how do YOU intend to determine if the product YOU eat is produced by someone who knows what they are doing?
I'll answer for you: you hope that inspectors have done their job.
And I hope you recognize that if you buy shrimp or melons from a van, you have zero chance that someone other than the seller has seen how they got to you.
Responsible for 33 dead from tainted food.
Sentenced to probation.
Gog_Magog_Carpet_Reclaimers at January 28, 2014 11:00 PM
Dead men walking (or should be).
Bob in Texas at January 29, 2014 6:32 AM
If only these men had run a small, local, "organic" farm without government inspection...
Then, no one would have been sickened.
Good thing that $300K fine was imposed. That will bring those dead people right back!
Radwaste at January 29, 2014 7:32 AM
From Maggie's Farm, Dressing for Success, pro and con.
Old RPM Daddy (OldRPMDaddy at GMail dot com) at January 29, 2014 7:39 AM
Their produce killed 33 people because they didn't sterilize the melons, and they faced ONLY SIX YEARS IN PRISON???
Whatever happened to 33 counts of manslaughter, or even 33 counts of depraved indifference homicide? That would have been good for at least 50 years, I reckon.
mpetrie98 at January 29, 2014 8:09 AM
Well, what can one say; those "anti-gay bigots" at Chick-Fil-A are up to more shenanigans:
http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2014/01/29/chick-fil-gives-free-food-to-motorists-stranded-in-southern-snowstorm/?intcmp=latestnews
My God, will they never stop!
Charles at January 29, 2014 9:21 AM
Whatsa matter, Baby? You're not uptight, are ya?
Crid [CridComment at Gmail] at January 29, 2014 12:27 PM
Well, Charles, people love fried chicken in weather like this.
Crid [CridComment at Gmail] at January 29, 2014 12:30 PM
Graphic design.
Crid [CridComment at Gmail] at January 29, 2014 12:32 PM
From the SOTU speech 2014:
Applause followed this chunk.
All I can think is this line:
So this is how liberty dies … with thunderous applause.
And what adds irony to this is that Natalie Portman has dual American and Israeli citizenship. But she supports(ed) Obama up to and including doing ads and campaigning for him.
Jim P. at January 29, 2014 3:40 PM
Amy Alkon
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Amy Alkon
at January 29, 2014 6:15 PM
Re: the death melons.
1. Was it proved that the deliberately failed to serialize the melons or was it an accident?
2. Could said death melons have been serialized in the kitchen of those who bought them? When I buy produce I wash it (with a touch of bleach) and dry it before it goes in the fridge and then wash it again before I eat it.
3. They were inspected and approved for selling food under the regulatory and inspection programs of the Federal government Radwaste, that means we use the time machine to go back and prevent them from dying right?
You argue that lack of federal inspection means we can resurrect the dead, ergo the inverse is resurrection is possible if the feds approve the sale, right?
lujlp at January 29, 2014 6:22 PM
"You argue that lack of federal inspection means we can resurrect the dead"
Yes, that's right. The USDA is negotiating for Hitler's remains as we speak so we can kill him again.
Bam! Godwin's law in one!
Gog_Magog_Carpet_Reclaimers at January 29, 2014 8:05 PM
Side note: no reason to get the Feds involved in resurrection.
Not when TV pitchman Billy Mays has a product that can do it for cheaper!
Gog_Magog_Carpet_Reclaimers at January 29, 2014 8:18 PM
Fuck
You argue that lack of federal inspection means we CAN'T resurrect the dead
lujlp at January 30, 2014 6:50 AM
No, luj, missed the target, missed the barn it was stuck to.
Inspection is part of a process which recognizes that there is a path to be taken to deliver a safe product.
Per the story, having the equipment does not mean it gets used. The takeaway here should be that some people are slackers - that some must be forced to follow a process that produces a safe product.
The better the process, the more reliable it is, and fewer inspections are required.
And the key, again, is that only prevention is effective, because no amount of money can take away an injury or death.
-----
Consumer protection depends on a process. Ideally, it allows the retailer of a service or product to present same to the customer without interruption or worker input to correct the process.
For instance - and I repeat myself - the Happy Cow Creamery, in SC, sells raw milk and other goods without chemical treatment. An inventive owner converted to the current process when he was looking to improve the quality of his product, at a time when the industry was looking to increase quantity. Clemson and University of South Carolina ag departments showed up to study it, and State inspectors found the idea practically flaw-free from the beginning: as there were no chemicals administered, their job was drastically simplified.
But the key here is that the process Happy Cow uses is monitored. "Inspection" does NOT mean that only the end product is checked!
You can't be poisoned at Happy Cow, because they don't recycle feed, or water, or use poisonous chemicals (and I do not mean "Hollywood" poisonous).
If these people selling melons knew what they were doing, no one would have died.
Now - how do YOU intend to determine if the product YOU eat is produced by someone who knows what they are doing?
I'll answer for you: you hope that inspectors have done their job.
And I hope you recognize that if you buy shrimp or melons from a van, you have zero chance that someone other than the seller has seen how they got to you.
Radwaste at January 30, 2014 12:59 PM
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