How Kids Manipulate Parents
A prof friend used this to illustrate "parent-offspring conflict" for his ev psych students, but it's much funnier than that maybe makes it sound:
Complete Scarlett O'Hara mode.

How Kids Manipulate Parents
A prof friend used this to illustrate "parent-offspring conflict" for his ev psych students, but it's much funnier than that maybe makes it sound:
Complete Scarlett O'Hara mode.





Even the dog!
jerry at September 11, 2015 12:34 AM
That's hilarious!
crella at September 11, 2015 2:53 AM
I think my tubes just tied themselves.
But I must say, aside from the toys piled around and the screeching brat, that leather chair in front of the fireplace looks mighty comfy.
Pirate Jo at September 11, 2015 4:38 AM
Found that easy to solve. I just put my grandson in a playpen and pulled a chair up in front of him w/a book. Told him to scream and cry all he wanted.
When he slowed down I simply said "Is that all you've got? Don't you want to keep going?" and he would.
After a while he stopped and I simply said "If you done acting wrong we can have lunch but that behavior is not the way to do things."
I did not have any more trouble w/him. I did notice that he preferred my attention more after that. I treated him like a little person instead of a cute little baby/boy.
I also took into account when he was stressed out due to being tired, hungry, etc. and overlooked those screaming sessions.
You know work the problem not the symptom.
Bob in Texas at September 11, 2015 5:02 AM
I watched it, and failed to see anything funny.
After about the first ten seconds, I'd be shouting back, "Kid, are you being tortured, or just asking for it?"
jdgalt at September 11, 2015 5:45 AM
future social justice warrior?
charles at September 11, 2015 5:59 AM
My oldest it just starting that stage. It certainly ticks him off when you start laughing.
Jdgalt,
The humor is in the transparent manipulation. A lie performed so badly you just start laughing. Like looking over at your wife and asking 'Did you steal all my french fries? Noooo. (with fry poking out of her mouth)'
This is also something to remember when idiots try to claim kids don't lie. Kids lie all the time, poorly.
Ben at September 11, 2015 6:14 AM
Ugg. My little one turned one a month ago and we're starting to get to the phase where it's very difficult to take her anywhere. At home you can do what this parent's doing: ignore them and walk away. That seems to be the most effective way of getting them to stop- don't reward the behavior. But you can't let them do this in public. If you don't have the second parent to take them outside, you have to leave- which sucks when you're somewhere like the grocery store and you actually need stuff.
ahw at September 11, 2015 7:42 AM
Ah, I remember those days, or I should say day. My DD did the whole face on the floor with the pounding of fists thing bc I made her come inside to take a nap. I left her on the floor by the door, got the camera and laughed while I shot the photo. It totally pissed her off, but she learned that I am wasn't phased by those antics and they stopped. She is teenager now and sometimes I really miss those days.
Sheep Mom at September 11, 2015 8:55 AM
Here's a good response to that kind of behavior:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vlPHzU_DDmY
Still, the best response is to ignore it.
charles at September 11, 2015 12:07 PM
I think my wife has a collection of tantrum videos archived for viewing when our kids are old enough to date.
Dwatney at September 11, 2015 5:05 PM
My kids (4, 3, 2, 11 months) are liars, except for the baby so far. They'll deny getting into the cookies while having crumbs and chocolate all over their faces. My 4-year-old makes up elaborate stories about how something happened or how he was forced to misbehave when he really didn't want too. Just last week he took all the cushions off the couch and stacked them up to build a fort (after we'd cleaned it up from earlier because we had company coming for dinner). He told me a giant bumblebee came into the house and picked up all the cushions and threw them around, that he tried to stop it but couldn't because it was just too big and strong for him. He told this all to me with a straight face the whole time. It was so hard not to laugh.
I was once told that you should be happy when your kids learn to lie and worry if they don't because it's an important developmental milestone.
BunnyGirl at September 12, 2015 4:26 PM
You gotta laugh. I loved the show Super Nanny (with Jo) because she would try to demonstrate/explain to parents what it was to lead and not cater to or try to reason with that manipulative behavior.
However there are so many people who think you can talk things through. When they are 2!!!!!!
I had friends who were divorcing (Bc she couldn't have more kids. He was a POS). They would try to out "parent" each-other and The kid - 3 at the time- knew it. It was pouring rain. 3yo wanted to make piles of leaves and jump in them. They said its raining very heavy, no. She had a fit. They were both explaining to her why. She is 3! After 10 min, I Thought BS and said "hey kid, want to read "Clifford the Big Red dog?" She blinkered her tears and said, OK! Ran with me to the den. We read the book 3 times with out tears and she was totally absorbed. She loves Clifford!
She is 15 and her parents still haven't learned. I don't put up with her BS and she digs me. Hmmmm.
Another kid would manipulate by not eating. I told my friend, he will eat when he's hungry. I said ignore him. Once dinner is done, take the plate away, he doesn't eat until breakfast. "He needs nutrition!" I said he won't starve himself. She would say "mommy will cry at the table if he didn't eat." So embarrassing! I took him out, he assumed I would care. I said hey, you don't eat? More for me and I started eating his meal. He grabbed it away and finished his lunch.
CatherineM at September 12, 2015 6:34 PM
Yep, you only have to do that once or twice, and the tantrums will pretty much stop. Consistency is the key: the kids will try it on in public (when it's much more embarrassing), but you cannot give in.
The one thing I dislike about this video is the laugh track. That smacks of deliberate staging.
a_random_guy at September 13, 2015 8:31 AM
Love the evil bumblebee story BunnyGirl.
My niece had a cookie, so grandpa asked her if daddy said she could have a cookie. She responded with a very emphatic "Yes!". So grandpa asked if he could check on that with daddy. And she responded with an even more emphatic "Noooo!"
Ben at September 13, 2015 6:25 PM
To BunnyGirl:
It's been said that a 3-year-old who has never lied is likely stupid.
Years ago, I saw a boy that age deliberately spill his bag of chips on the ground, right in front of his mother. When she refused to give him more chips, he tried to blame the spill on a non-existent breeze. Clearly, he wasn't exactly a genius, since he knew she saw what he did. Doesn't that pretty much prove that you don't even have to be an unusually smart 3-year-old to lie?
More on parents who insist that "three-year-olds don't lie":
http://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=861&dat=20030329&id=OhhZAAAAIBAJ&sjid=fUYNAAAAIBAJ&pg=6962,7514617
I would suggest: Never give a kid a CHANCE to lie if it can be at all avoided. Instead of asking "did you break the lamp" (especially when there's little or no chance that any other person or pet did it) simply punish the child first and talk later, assuming said kid already has a less-than-honest or decent reputation. If it turns out the adult was mistaken and the kid WAS innocent, well, that's the kid's fault for misbehaving and/or telling lies in the past. Just don't overdo it - and don't feel or look guilty when punishing. Talk and understanding are fine, but not at the wrong times.
lenona at September 14, 2015 9:23 AM
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