If I had a time machine, I'd go back to the start of these burrito ladies getting cancelled and stand with them and stand up for them.

Cultural appropriation? I have a friend from Mexico who said he didn't know what a burrito was until he came to the US. To him, a burrito is American food, not Mexican food.

Conan is correct. I suspect that if you go to China and order General Tso's chicken, they'll give you a blank stare.

The latest dust up involved someone saying dumplings are an ethnic food and as such white peoples shouldn't make them. Wikipedia seems to disagree with that assertion??!!!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dumpling

You can now order General Tso's chicken in China. At least in some of the coastal cities. 10 years ago that wasn't possible.

The fortune cookie was invented by a Japanese man in the US and sold to Chinese people in the US.

I am amused by the woketard use of pretentious phrases in place of simple language as well as how using past respectful terms is now seen as a mortal sin.

For example, using the phrase "a person of color" shows you are a caring, diversity loving champion of the oppressed. But the simple term "colored person" will bring down the holy wrath of woke righteousness upon you. And you will have to grovel on the alter of wokeness with a remorseful and self hating apology. Re: Benedict Cumberbach.

OK but these women sound sketchy, they asked women for recipes and when the women said no, these two entrepreneurs apparently spied on them through windows

Without cultural appropriation, Italians would not have the american tomato--try pizza without tomatoes; and without the Persians or Chinese (opinions differ) we would not have pants; and Mongolians for a proper saddle with stirrups; and Polynesians for the outrigger canoe; and and and. We are all super rich today because so many people invented and cooked so many things. It is not possible to force us all back into isolated tribes.

Without cultural appropriation, Italians would not have the american tomato.... ~ cc at August 18, 2021 11:41 AM

As I understand it, without the Chinese, the Italians would not have noodles (pasta).

All progress in this world - technical, cultural, medical, intellectual, and even culinary - is iterative. One party invents or discovers something that another party improves or repurposes, adding that item to its own repertoire to create something entirely new, and useful, possibly delicious.

Without so-called "cultural appropriation" we'd still be living on the farm, wearing loin cloths, wearing our teeth to nubs by eating bits of stone in ground grains, hiding from marauders, and dying at 30 of violence or disease.

Telephones for tortillas. Airplanes and automobiles for avocados. Etc., etc., etc.

Sounds like a fair swap to me.

and without the Persians or Chinese (opinions differ) we would not have pants;
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I don't get that one. Seems to me that pants would have been invented in any country that gets snow. Just as people in many separate nations invented the wheel without hearing rumors about it beforehand from travelers - and it's been almost 2500 years since some scholars figured out the world was round, no doubt in part because boats had already been improved for longer travels by then, so even illiterate sailors ALL over the world had to notice that mountains "grow" over the horizon, which wouldn't happen with a flat world.

But speaking of pants and alternatives...historian Richard Shenkman wrote that the Scottish kilt was invented in 1727, near Inverness, by...an English industrialist, Thomas Rawlinson!

"He invented the kilt because the average Scotsman was so poor he couldn't afford a pair of pants. As it happened, the kilt proved almost immediately to be a great popular success. Maybe it wasn't as good as a pair of pants, but if you were used to wearing a knee-length plaid shirt belted in the middle you'd have run out to get one too...

"...Prior to 1745 Scots regarded the kilt with little affection. Indeed, because kilts were used mainly by workmen, the members of the upper classes wouldn't ever wear them. And then there was the ban of 1745. Naturally, as soon as the kilt was banned everyone wanted to wear one...

"...Furthermore, as soon as the kilt became a national treasure it was claimed that each of Scotland's chief clans had always been known for a distinctive plaid kilt pattern. The thing hadn't existed the previous century but suddenly people were arguing about which clan had the right to wear which 'ancient' pattern...

"...a scholar named John Pinkerton (pointed out that the kilt was not ancient and there were no 'claims' on plaid patterns). Nobody, of course, paid him any mind.

"I wish I could say that Sir Walter Scott wasn't taken in by the ruse, but he was. Indeed, Scott himself is responsible in part for the widespread belief in the mythical antiquity of the Scottish kilt. In an essay in 1805 he advanced the claim that it could be traced clear back to the third century..."

But speaking of pants and alternatives...historian Richard Shenkman wrote that the Scottish kilt was invented in 1727, near Inverness, by...an English industrialist, Thomas Rawlinson! ~ Lenona at August 19, 2021 10:39 AM

One of the movie flaws click bait posts in Twitter that I went ahead and clicked on day when bored included a tidbit about Mel Gibson's Braveheart and the kilts being an anachronism. Hard to believe, but it seems to be true that kilts are not part of ancient Scotland.

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"I wish I could say that Sir Walter Scott wasn't taken in by the ruse, but he was. Indeed, Scott himself is responsible in part for the widespread belief in the mythical antiquity of the Scottish kilt. In an essay in 1805 he advanced the claim that it could be traced clear back to the third century..." ~ Lenona at August 19, 2021 10:39 AM

I'm not sure if Sir Walter Scott was "taken in," or if he didn't decide to "print the legend." Most of his novels opt for the romantic legend over the less romantic truth. Ivanhoe was one of my favorite books growing up, mostly because of the romantic legend underlying Scott's tale of chivalry and derring-do.