And this is suprising? Here's the new boss...

Once again, why are we supposed to be surprised? The man was elected on a platform written for a personal motivator.

Not surprising at all, momof3. Members of the ruling party can never bring themselves to give up power usurped by their predecessors.

heh, and here I was going to say the first two were actually Clinton era ideas... oh, wait... they were. Funnily enough, I keep running ito the 20somethings that think that "O" walks on water, and they keep saying 'lalalalalala, can't hear you!' If there is anything he is doing that is really stupid, it is alienating them IMHO. A cynical indy like me doesn't matter too much, but an idealogue spurned is a dangerous enemy.

I like when Sean Hannity sends some of his staff out to the streets of New York and states a Bush idea and says it is from Obama.
They find people who voted for Obama and ask if these are good ideas. Inevitibely they say they are good ideas just because they are attributed to Obama.

Then they will turn around and take an idea of Obama's and say that it is a Bush idea.
The same people who voted for Obama will say it's a bad idea because it is attributed to Bush. Funny and frightening at the same time.

Without reading the piece at DJ, I think the two parts have to be read together. It's true that Obama has been bad on these issues. But it's also true that many progressive bloggers such as Glenn Greenwald, Jeralyn Merritt, Armando Llorens, "Digby" (who I figure must live within a few blocks of you), and many others have excoriated Obama for this.

And not only have they gone after Obama on this, but they've also gone after the other lefty bloggers defending Obama on these issues.

(It's also true that a few former Nixonites and Reaganites (and even a few GHWBushites) were very hard on GWB on this, and these same progressive bloggers (Greenwald, et. al.,) noted and appreciated those statements at appropriate times.)

Both sides make huge mistakes in logic and analysis when they treat the other side as monolithic, or when they treat everyone on the other side as either dumb or unprincipled or always, no matter what, wrong.

Yep. Obama's administration has been just a shade better than that of GWB on these issues. As has been pointed out by Larison and others, Obama's policy approach is much more status quo than change. I was expressing to my wife how I think Obama's approach to just about all of the bug issues - torture, Iraq, Afghanistan and the banks - is marked primarily by cowardice and the unwillingness to do things that might open him up to criticism.

I loves this blog post. And let's never forget that out Secretary of State and Vice President voted for war in Iraq.

> Obama's administration has
> been just a shade better
> than that of GWB

Goddammit! If all you pinko liberals are going to pussy out over this, it's going to take a lot of the fun out of politics.

But I'm confident that the majority of your cohort will not be so reasonable.

But meanwhile, if anyone needs to see a lefty get spanked, let me again offer a link to this video.

Here's a pinko liberal who's gonna have a hissy fit... watch me stamp my feet!

Obama is a fucking sellout. Which I knew when he voted for FISA and almost drove me 3rd party. I changed my mind when Palin was selected.

But Obama is a fucking Right-Wing-Appeasing pansy.

*stamp* *stamp* *stamp*

> Obama is a fucking sellout.

Don't understate things: He's from Chicago.

(Hillary too.)

>Don't understate things: He's from Chicago.

(Hillary too.)

Hey, I'm from Chicago and Chicago politicians are as honest and upstanding......

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA...sorry, couldn't keep a straight face (internetedly speaking).

If these things surprise anyone, he was not paying attention. Winger rhetoric aside, Obama is much more Clinton than Kucinich.

> Obama is much more Clinton
> than Kucinich.

Funny how nobody bothered to make that point until May 2009.

(PS- It's not true. Clinton never dreamt of spending this much [imaginary] money. Say what you want about his obsession with young tail, but Clinton lived in the real world.)

> HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Let's follow his link:

| THE FALSE RAPE SOCIETY
| News and commentary about
| wrongful accusations of
| rape and sexual assault

Seriously, Amy, where do you find these guys? I mean, we know you're a redheaded female, but what other forces are at work?

(I'd hate to think I'm one of them.)

I'd hate to think I'm one of them.

You are. The comic relief you provide is why I stop by.

Actually, Crid, lots of people made the point that he wasn't actually left wing. Mostly on leftwing blogs like Alternet and Salon.

> Mostly on leftwing blogs like
> Alternet and Salon.

Golly... Hard to imagine how I missed them, then....

Say what you want about us conservatives, we're much more patient with the rainbow of enthusiasm in our tent... It's crazyshit liberals (like Amy) who think the Republican party is all about servicing religious fanatics in the deep south. Work-a-day conservatives don't feel any heat from Pat Robertson.

But Wingnut lefties are a hazard to Democrats not just because they think their high-octane socialism is the only game in town: They think anyone towards the center of their party is as corrosive to their decency as is Dick Cheney.

And for the record, anyone who can spend three trillion dollars (four trillion?) in a hundred and ten days is pretty fuckin' left wing.

OK, you probably weren't the best possible example. You were just convenient... You think all republicans are Jerry Falwell.

Meet the black boss, same as the white boss.