Tom Clancy On Free Market Exchange
"I believe that sex is one of the most beautiful, natural, wholesome things that money can buy."
Tom Clancy On Free Market Exchange
"I believe that sex is one of the most beautiful, natural, wholesome things that money can buy."
Bobby Riggs once complained of his reputation for not liking women. On the contrary, he said, "I like them so much I think every man should have two."
Patrick at September 27, 2009 2:36 AM
Entertaining quote from Riggs. I like Rodney Dangerfield's quote too. I don't remember it exactly but it was something to the effect, *I like having two women. That way when I fall asleep she has someone to talk to*.
To Tom Clancy's comment, is he speaking of paying specifically for sexual services or just the general cost of a date in order to get a woman into bed? Or are the two equivalent on some level and he wasn't drawing a distinction?
TW at September 27, 2009 4:36 AM
No such thing as free sex for straight men; they are always paying somehow.
Once that is understood, everything else in the relationship is easier for everyone involved.
Spartee at September 27, 2009 5:35 AM
My wife bought me a T-shirt years ago, still have it, its a favorite, it reads:
"Girls are great, every guy should own a few."
Robert at September 27, 2009 5:52 AM
As the post-feminist, post birth-control "good" girls increasingly encroach on what used to be sole territory of "working" girls, the continuing vitality of that illicit industry seems to validate that indeed, the professionals are not paid for sex, they are paid to go away afterwards.
Of course, many working girls report that some of their customers want only warmth, affection, and a chance for human contact -- something unavailable to them in the "legitimate" dating scene.
Pity the poor guys deemed "losers" by our hostile society. There is a reason only half as many men have reproduced over the ages as compared to women. Get Alpha -- or get left out of the breeding pool.
Jay R at September 27, 2009 1:32 PM
I find it supremely ironic that there is an advertisement for a muslim matrimonial site on Miss Alkon's blog. Oy vey my dear lady of advice, for lack of a better phrase...wtf? *LOL*
Robert at September 27, 2009 2:44 PM
A free, wide-open commercialized sex industry might make America a healthier place. Imagine if these weirdoes who go shoot up health clubs in Pittsburgh instead could at least get a "girlfriend" for a while in a cheap, clean socially acceptable place. Maybe they would not be so inclined to go on shooting rampages (and libertarians love, love their .357s and automatics, so no, no, no gun control. Dum-dum bullets too, just like the LAPD).
Odd, how relentlessly conventional we (especially women) all are--in ancient Pompeii, the leading families ran hotel-restaurants, and if you stayed, you were expected to sleep with their daughters! Polygamy was common, as were concubines. That was leading families we are talking about. That was the standard to aspire to.
In Asia and South America, public bathing, topless clothing for both sexes and polygamy was the rule, before Westernization. Explorers were often inundated with offers to have sex with women. (Lewis & Clark has troubles keeping maidens away from their men).
The peoples of Asia and South America have been repressed, as surely as Islam oppresses women behind clothes. You cannot call one oppression without acknowledging the other-- unless you insist the current convention in the United States is the best of all possible worlds, Candide, anyone? Is a Voltaire moment coming on?
(A side note: in Thailand, every once in a while, a public official makes speech demanding Thailand go back to its "traditional" values. Usually, a wag somewhere posts a response that our "traditional" values were that public bathing is fine, prostitution is normal, polygamy is great, and women wore only a sarong around the waist, and sex was fun and engaged in often.
A famous Thai folk tale involved four wealthy daughters who seek to find four husbands, The young men in town vie for their favors, and answer riddles. The four girls marry the best four candidates--but then find out the answers were provided by a village farmer, in his middle-age. The four daughters kick out the four youths, and bring in the village farmer, and all four marry him. Many daughters marrying the same man was also common--a horror to today's American women, but normal then and there.
It all depends on how much you accept current convention as gospel.
And remember this--when Edmund Muskie, a liberal, ran for president in 1968, he refused to share a stage with gay rights people. He said, "I will not share a stage with a bunch of sodomites."
I can remember when homosexual meant "repulsive pervert."
Your sentiments today about, say, polygamy, may in 30 years suffer the same fate.
i-holier-than-thou at September 27, 2009 3:16 PM
Amy Alkon
http://www.advicegoddess.com/archives/2009/09/27/clancy.html#comment-1669823">comment from RobertGregg has to fix that -- there's some way to block certain ads.
Amy Alkon at September 27, 2009 3:22 PM
Your slipping i-hole,
A well reasopned argument compete with accurate facts, no insults and not a trace of douchebag?
Did the 7th circle of hell freeze over last night?
lujlp at September 27, 2009 6:15 PM
lulu-gyp: On top of these thoughts, I was thinking about hell last night, considering images from Hiroshima. The announcer called it a hell.
My thought was, "It is worse than hell. They don't send children to hell."
Sadly, I am an atheist, so it was more a sentiment, than a belief.
Sheesh, can you imagine getting one shot at life, and your shot has an a-bomb in year four?
i-holier-than-thou at September 27, 2009 6:41 PM
Yeah, talk about rotten luck i-h.
"It is well that war is so terrible, lest we become to fond of it."
Worse for Nagasaki, Hiroshima at least never saw it coming. Well, go to war against a continent spanning nation...you get bombed by one.
Robert at September 27, 2009 9:15 PM
Well, my mother-in-law said that as bad as it was (Hiroshima), at least the war was over. She was a hibakusha, a survivor of the A bomb, so I value her opinion more than most. I miss that lady.
For those who don't know, the fire bombings of Tokyo killed more people in a single air raid than either of the atomic bombings. There were plenty of horrors to go around and it didn't start with Pearl Harbor, as the population of Nanking learned years earlier. There are plenty of villains, and not all of them were Japanese.
Our leaders are mostly ignorant of history, and we are thus doomed to repeat some hard lessons in person.
MarkD at September 28, 2009 8:08 AM
MarkD-
Yes, as we routinely lionize ourselves for our WWII exploits, it is forgotten we firebombed Dresden and Tokyo, both full of women and children. Dresden is often cited as an example of a purely revengeful firebombing, w/o military purpose. A couple hundred thousand women and children fried.
Of course, the Japanese and Germans were doing the same thing, worse even.
The United States was in the right in WWII, but not everything we did was right. I remain skeptical we had to invade Japan at all, often cited as the reason the nukes and the Tokyo firebombing were justified.
Once we pushed Japanese soldiers off all occupied territories, maybe we could have called it a day.
Something about killing hundred of thousands of civilian women and children never set right by me.
And Truman? The guy who dropped the bomb? When he left office he said regarded his biggest failing was the failure to secure national health insurance.
i-holier-than-thou at September 28, 2009 9:24 AM
i-holier-than-thou, I'm also impressed by the astounding ignorance that we had about the long-term effects of radiation. I don't know much about it, as my parents were divorced when I was a pre-schooler, but my father (a WWII vet) was supposedly subjected to nuclear radiation at test sites, totally unaware of what might happen.
Patrick at September 29, 2009 2:01 AM
Actually, Clancy's statement was a part of Steve Martin's act from the 1970s.
craig at October 2, 2009 2:36 PM
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