Oh, the bad jokes just waiting to be made!

The results are interesting, but as yet pretty meaningless. This is a sample of only 293 women, where the participants must voluntarily answer very intimite questions. Getting accurate results out of this - especially when there are so many possible confounding factors - is essentially impossible.

At best, this may justify a genuine double-blind study. Just don't tell the women the source of what may be in the pills...

"Just don't tell the women the source of what may be in the pills"...well, does it work if you take it orally? I'd guess "no", because otherwise, various forms of oral ingestion would be messing up the strong correlations here...

I highly recommend the Essure implants made by Conceptus. The procedure is quick and simple, nonsurgical, and 30 days later you never have to mess with birth control again. I got mine when I was 34 and went to a job interview the next day.

http://essure.com/Home/Understanding/WhatisEssure/tabid/55/Default.aspx?gclid=CKeP_52jr6QCFZQz5wodrhVa1Q

I got Mirena, but it's not for everyone. The insertion was so painful that I'm not sure I'd do it again if I had to. I'm totally happy with it now, though.

^ Argggggg matey! There be some pirate spam above ye disguised as a comment!

This study made me laugh. All I can say is CHEERS!

"an extended study on more than 700 women has backed up these findings"

From a BBC report on the original study:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/2067223.stm

"Semen makes women happy" :)

This study made me laugh. All I can say is CHEERS!

Posted by: Rosemary444 at September 30, 2010 7:21

eh? If you read through, this is not just one study or one thing...

The fallout of all this seems like it's far reaching... and you'd think thatit would be the talk of all the morning talkies, but after all these years... silence.

I would suspect that it has something to do with the part where there is a big enough problem getting people to do birth control, before you start telling them that there is a down side to barrier methods.

But, it might be a big deal if the reasons why there is a certain amount of drift between the genders has to do with our blocking biology from working...

OTOH, a savvy entrepeneur might want to bottle the ingredients to get around barrier methods. Heh, if I was the KY company, I'd be spending a lot of R&D to figure it out.

I got Essure. Which now means I have to have a in-hospital hydrothermal endometrial ablation instead of the 90 second in-office electric one. Which is a pain, but otherwise Essure is GREAT!!!

Didn't the phrase "Oh, ick!" cross anyone's mind as he or she was reading this? Just asking...

Also, "poor" has nothing to do with it. Why buy Prozac when I can get semen for free? I'm just frugal!

"I got Mirena, but it's not for everyone."

Yeah, according to their commercials you have to be a morally pure June Cleaver for a decade first. I always like the Yaz ads for the chocolatini set, except their sound dubbing is always off and people don't actually verbalize the 6 point font disclaimer in a conversation.

And swiss: you mean ANOTHER downside to barrier methods.

Ex-Psycho here with PERFECT skin thanks to yaz

This explains why homosexuals are referred to as "gay".

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Nurse, this woman is severely depressed. Get Peter North in here immediately!

I'm 26, and have had a copper iud for over 3 years. I agree that it is by far the best birth control and I tried so many in the 7 years before I got the iud. Depo shot, 6 different bc pills, and the patch.

The only downside to the IUD is finding a doctor to give you one if you are young and childless, because it can dislodge and end up messing up your fertility, which I guess isn't as big of a deal to women who have already had a child... That's the basic response I received. I found one, paid $500 for 10 years of birth control, then received a check for $480 back after insurance picked up the tab (aetna super high deductible plan).

My only real complaint is that now that there are no hormones in my system, I have my REAL period, which is 6-7 days instead of 3-4 and light. But, I have only had 1 migraine in 3 years instead of 20+ in the year before I got the iud.

I suspect that eating a big clump of fresh-cooked parsley may improve the semen's, uh, qualities as well. Certainly it would be a better choice than asparagus.

Before we were married, my wife was on birth control pills due to painful periods.

We have since had infertility issues that seem to have include an immune-compatibility element.

Impossible to know anything, but maybe if she hadn't been on the pills she would have dumped me as genetically unsuitable.

Parsley? Never heard of that helping but I'll look into it and start stocking up on parsley! I'm about to close on my first house and if it works, I'll be planting some. Do you know how it helps? Just curious! I'm going to google it now.

OK... maybe it's because I came of age in the 90s... but this article freaks me out. CONDOMS people, CONDOMS! Preferably with foam. You know, the little rubber things we put on bananas during safe sex workshops in High School. The little packets in the basket in the nurse's office.

Nothing else can protect you from STDs, except chastity (which I'm defining as abstinence or sex with only one partner who has already been tested clean for everything).

Think about how depressed you will be if you get an STD.

I think we need to take account of the risks vs benefits of behavior.

I trieda Paraguard copper IUD several years ago and my body rejected it. Despite it being confirmed properly seated my uterus did it's best to get rid of the foreign object. I had it for about two weeks after paying $500 to get it. I can't take hormonal birth control of any form because of an autoimmune clotting disorder so instead have practiced NFP/FAM for birth control for years with no issue. And before somebody says it, it is not thr rhythm method. It involves taking your basal body temperature every morning, tracking your cervix and cervical mucus. It's quite easy to pinpoint when you are fertile and then confirm when you've ovulated with your temperature. I realize thus method isn't for everyone.

I'm very againt Essure because the metal in the coils contains nickel, which is not disclosed information. They also very often migrate at some point even after they've been confirmed properly seated on HSG. This leads to very painful cramping, bleeding, and life threatening injuries with uterine perforation. There is a class action lawsuit in process of being filed against it right now and an invetigation into pulling it from the market. There is a similar procedure out with a non-metal implant called Adiana that sounds much safer but it's still cery new.

"OK... maybe it's because I came of age in the 90s... but this article freaks me out. CONDOMS people, CONDOMS! Preferably with foam. You know, the little rubber things we put on bananas during safe sex workshops in High School. The little packets in the basket in the nurse's office.

Nothing else can protect you from STDs, except chastity (which I'm defining as abstinence or sex with only one partner who has already been tested clean for everything).

Think about how depressed you will be if you get an STD.

I think we need to take account of the risks vs benefits of behavior."

I think we need to consider the risks vs the benefits too but it is still very possible to get an STD while using condoms. I have a family member who acquired one while using a condom diligently, The AIDS panic of the 80's and 90's made condoms sound like the solution to everything but in reality they are not nearly as good as knowing the sexual history of your partner and having a loving trusting relationship since most STDs can be transmitted orally as well as vaginally. Condoms are certainly a good idea if you are the type of person who engages in casual hookups but they are not really all that effective at preventing either pregnancy or disease.

Yes of course it is still possible, but the risk is greatly reduced. Which of course doesn't help you if you're the statistic...

Well, like I said elsewhere on this topic, I know I feel better after a good rogering! :P

As for condoms, HPV is one STD that's easy to catch in spite of condom use, since it only requires a little skin to skin contact. A good percentage of people have it and are unaware they have it. The vaccine protects against two of the worst strains (the ones most commonly associated with cervical cancer), but there are loads more out there and no one wants genital warts, even if it's relatively harmless.

If there is a class action lawsuit against Essure I would surely love to know what lawyer. Please e-mail me with information. I am bankrupt and now diabettic from complications and weight gain after having two surgeries to fix my uterus and then remove it after one migrated up into my upper left corner of my uterus, punctured the uterus and had I not had a carring boyfriend at the time I could have ended up dead because the doctors tried to tell me it was all in my head for 3 months, which would have been easy for them to sweep me under the carpet because I got suicidal after my divorce to whom I lost my daughter because I was already on disability for Rheumatoid Arthritis. Oh I also had 2 IUD's and even though one of those migrated up and got lodged in the side of my uterus at least I knew It was missing due to the string being gone, So I would still say that the IUD's are safer than Essure and I actually think the copper on the IUD I used helped my Rheumatoid Arthritis some. So it was worth the $500.00 for 6yrs of BC. I could never take the pill, I had morning sickness every time I tried to take it for the whole 1st month or more, then I would give up because it was 24/7 morningsickness. YUK>
Still paying bills and mad. Just found out I have diabettes two months ago and angry as heck, still have to much scar tissue in my belly to exersize now too and increased back pain daily. Pain clinics are not helping and my doctor refuses to refill my vicodin. Don't know what to do, my boyfriend/now husband waits on me hand and foot the poor thing. I'm hot under the collar now. Please e-mail me.

I am also looking to see if any has a class action law suit againist EESURE... I taste metal all he time.. I have back pain and stomach pain.. Leg cramps all the time. Also now I have been to the doctor and have a thing called Cervicitis which it can be caused be STD's but I dont have any and neither does my husband of 10 years... But it can also be cause by injury to the cervix from a foreign object inserted in the vagina, from birth control devices such as the cervical cap or a diaphragm... Which EESURE is a foreign object and birth conrol.. So I am all messed up... So please let me know something please... My email is peaches244foru at yahoo . com thanks again Tasha

I dont know why anyone would recommend the Essure!! I had the procedure done after my 3rd child. did what I was suppost to do, as far as brth control for 3 months till the scar tissue formed around the coils. Went back in 3 months to get check to make sure my tubes were sealed. And after the test they said I was good to go! tubes sealed! I got pregnant a year later. My doctor recommended it and I guess Its my fault for not researching it better.