But Trayvon is more important.

Caroline Glick's piece is outstanding.

And one of our soldiers a week ago went on a murder spree killing 16 innocent civillians, including 11 Muslim sleeping children.

And Trayvon is important. Had the roles been reversed, the young black kid would no doubt be charged with murder, as an adult.

I'm not trying to be a liberal pain in the ass, but we can't cherry pick justice. These are all examples of senseless tragedy.

And that soldier was an anomaly while the disgusting fucks that want to kill Jewish folk in the name of Islam are so common that nobody raises an eyebrow. Eric, take your moral equivalence and shove it up your ass.

I agree with you on those points...

There is no question of what happened here. I cry everytime I see Miriam's picture. Folks it is really necessary to figure out how to cull the herd of man.

This is probably going to be the most religious century in human history. religion is what a generation or two of hillbillies turn to when their village gets brought into a larger economic and political framework. You have to get used to this... you can't tell people to ignore religion just because you want them to and thiNk it would be better for them.

The United States is the most religious country in the world, but this is where you want to live, right?

religion ain't the problem. primitivism and disconnectedness are the problems.

writing on a iPad at frys electronics. Kinda slow and clumsy

Caroline Glick's piece is a great bit of writing, but there's one point she's missing:

"Their photographs were clearly imitations of the photos that Pearl's killers took of him before they chopped his head off"

That's true, but the likes of Mohamed Merah aren't just copying other jihadis. They are following the example of the original Mohamed. For just one example, in 627 the Qurayzah, a tribe of Jewish Arabs, surrendered after the Muslim conquest of Medina. Mohamed ordered all the men to be slaughtered in front of their families, and the women & children to be raped and sold into slavery. He eagerly participated himself, and then he received a revelation from Allah praising his actions, which is now Verse 33:26 of the Koran:

"And those of the People of the Book who aided them - Allah did take them down from their strongholds and cast terror into their hearts. (So that) some ye slew, and some ye made prisoners"

Mohamed didn't have cameras or the internet in the seventh century, but that never stopped him, and Mohamed Merah was following his example in word and in deed. That fact ought to be addressed somehow. Robert Bales is at least a nominal Christian, but he won't be able to find any justification or praise for his actions in the Gospel or the actions of Christ.

Compelling writing from you and Caroline Glick. Miriam's murder exemplifies the unique and awful purpose of Islamofascism.

The soldier in Afghanistan had been on multiple tours of duty--the French guy sat in his apartment, on the dole, watching snuff films. There's a big difference. While the solider may or may not have PTSD or may or may not be just a violent asshole--Merah is just a violent wacko, easily swayed by imans preaching death to infidels. He had not personally suffered any violence against himself. The two cases are not remotely similar.

I'm with you Eric, murdered kids are murdered kids. It's all heart-breaking.

"While the solider may or may not have PTSD or may or may not be just a violent asshole--Merah is just a violent wacko, easily swayed by imans preaching death to infidels."

Robert Bales is the final product of US culture, which views the Muslims as subhuman or inferior.

Do you remember the picture of Marines, who were pissing on the dead Taliban?

If we don't look at Muslims as humans either dead or alive, Osama Bin Laden is going to finally succeed in pushing all of us back to "primitive and disconnected" period.

In a perfect world, Robert Bales will be handed over to Afghan government to be tried for the crimes he may or may not have committed. And he should the face the parents of those slain children in the Afghan court not US court.

At this point, he has a very good shot at escaping any punishment at all for killing innocent children by pleading insanity.

"Do you remember the picture of Marines, who were pissing on the dead Taliban?"

Yeah, that's comparable to killing children.

Acctually chang, Bales is the end result of military culture which reenforced the idea that ANY enemy is sub human - because if they are human you feel guilty for trying to shoot them coupled with political indifference for soldiers needs and health

You want someone to blame for Bales' victims? Blame Obama for not ending the wars as promised, blame Bush for firing Shenski for giving an honest estimate of the troops needed to do the job, blame congress as it is there job and not the presidents to declare war.

If Bales is guilty our 537 federal represenitives are even more so

Chang, you are an ignorant anti-american slut. To say that America is anti-muslim is just so ignorant. I wish we were, I wish we would declare this war to be a war on Islam, instead we go out of our way to grisly grannies at airports. I hope you and your loved ones feel the pain of the next 9-11.

Again, I'm an atheist, but I can get behind Jesus' "turn the other cheek" and "feed the poor." Islam's "Kill people who don't believe in Allah"? No.

Yes, Jesus was different than Muhammed. Muhammed was a warrior; Jesus was not. Islamic extremists are more rabid, and more violent, than Christian extremists.

But Islam doesn't have a patent on the "kill people who don't believe thing." After all, according to the Bible, the God of Christians wiped out not just all people but "every living substance" (except for Noah & his critters) simply because he was pissed off that mankind was "wicked."

And God saw that the wickedness of man was great in the earth, and that every imagination of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually. And it repented the Lord that he had made man on the earth, and it grieved him at his heart. And the Lord said, I will destroy man whom I have created from the face of the earth; both man, and beast, and the creeping thing, and the fowls of the air; for it repenteth me that I have made them. . . . And every living substance was destroyed which was upon the face of the ground, both man, and cattle, and the creeping things, and the fowl of the heaven; and they were destroyed from the earth: and Noah only remained alive, and they that were with him in the ark.

> In a perfect world, Robert Bales will be
> handed over to Afghan government to be
> tried for the crimes he may or may not have
> committed.

How old are you? Young people love to dream of the "perfect" planet.

> Robert Bales is the final product of US culture

You're more recent than he is, aren't you?

"But Islam doesn't have a patent on the "kill people who don't believe thing." After all, according to the Bible, the God of Christians wiped out not just all people but "every living substance" (except for Noah & his critters) simply because he was pissed off that mankind was "wicked."

Dude, do you really mean to compare the reality of today with a story book? Shall we just leave it at let God and Allah do the killing personally and everyone else stay out of it.

"At this point, he has a very good shot at escaping any punishment at all for killing innocent children by pleading insanity."

Just say it, chang: you want the man to die, not "justice". The idea that he gets a trial at all over there is pure naiveté.

"Just say it, chang: you want the man to die, not "justice". The idea that he gets a trial at all over there is pure naiveté."

Fine.

Would you please volunteer to inform this man that Robert Bales was found innocent by the bored California jurors, who were eager to watch the final minutes of NCAA finals?

http://www.rawa.org/temp/runews/2012/03/14/the-price-of-a-lifeo-in-afghanistan-it-s-as-little-as-210.phtml

Lujlp says -

Acctually chang, Bales is the end result of military culture which reenforced the idea that ANY enemy is sub human - because if they are human you feel guilty for trying to shoot them coupled with political indifference for soldiers needs and health

Cut the bullshit, which is made more insulting by the "political indifference for soldiers needs and health" bone thrown in. I am a soldier, among soldiers who have never done anything like what Bales did, and have never been taught, come to regard or know anyone who has been taught or come to regard what he did or anything like it as any better than murder.Take your "damaged combat vet made crazy by what he has seen and done" hollywood cliches and stuff them up your ass. If Bales did what he is accused of doing it is for the same reason rapists rape and thieves steal. Thats who and what they are. I have seen your writing before Lujlp and I seriously doubt you would tolerate anyone blaming a rape on "rape culture" or "male conditioning." You would rightly call it the act of a criminal. So it is with Bales.

As for Trayvon, tragic yes. This guy Zimmerman sounds like a piece of work and I can't imagine how the PD down there breathes or chews their food with their heads that far up their asses. At the same time, I cant help but notice that 49 deaths over St Patricks day weekend on Chicagos South side (where our dear leaderwas a community activist) is apparently business as usual - no outcry for them. Absolute crickets from the Black Outrage Industry. They were killed by blacks. Now, one kid killed by a white guy (actually hispanic, but hey - Al and Jesse gotta eat) merits outrage all the way up to the President. Between the outrage over Trayvon, and the silence of the black community over the slaughter of blacks by other blacks, I have to wonder if all anybody is really upset about is that a white person killed a black person - not that a black person was killed. And while we are discussing selective, politically motivated outrage -

Trayvon could have been your son, Barack?
Allen Goin could have been mine. Can we expect a comment on him some time soon?

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/you-get-what-you-deserve-white-boy-13-year-old-set-on-fire-in-horrific-racially-charged-attack/

Amen wolfman

Just to remind everyone, Chang is our resident Stalinist. As far as he's concerned, the only mistake Stalin, Hitler, Mao, and Pol Pot made is that they didn't go far enough.

"At the same time, I cant help but notice that 49 deaths over St Patricks day weekend on Chicagos South side..."

Yeah, the lesson here for young black men is: Make sure you get murdered by someone who looks white. Otherwise, your life has no value.

Otherwise, your life has no value...to Al Sharpton, Obama, or other professional race-baiters.

Wolfman, blow me. I'm a vet as well. Note I said military culture, not US military culture.

If your enenmy is the emotion equivelent of your kids you wont fire and will get your squadmates killed. And also note I never said he wasnt guilty or even remotly justified.

And you are an idiot if you think politics has nothing to do with this

Compare and contrast Hasan with Bales

Hasan
Nov 5, 2009 attacks
Oct 12 2010 Article 32 hearing 11months & 7days later
Jun 12 2012 Estimated date of trial 2yrs & 7months ahter attacks

Now do you really think the governemnt is going to let this drag on until January of 2015 before the trial even starts in the case of Robert Bales? All reports indicate Bales' Article 32 hearing will be in by the end of this month, not sometime in Febuary next year

Lujlp says - Wolfman, blow me. I'm a vet as well. Note I said military culture, not US military culture.

Such tap dancing is beneath you, Lujlp. Further, if you are a vet, you know how much and how often Laws of Land Warfare, Rules of Engagement and the moral imperative for a soldier to refuse to obey immoral, illegal and unjust orders are hammered into the troops. If you were infantry, it was constant. Further, one cannot help but justify actions by mitigating them with explanations. If Bales actions are the "end result of military culture...coupled with political indeifference for soldiers needs and health" then by definition you are saying Bales could be any of us. And what Bales did is not something any of us could or would do. There is no difference between that statement and a feminist saying "This womans rape was a result of patriarchal culture and a societal belief that women are mens property," in which case you would be all over her like white on rice and a glass of milk on a paper plate in a snowstorm. And you would be right to do so, because it would be bullshit and a slur on all men.
Lujlp says - And you are an idiot if you think politics has nothing to do with this

OOOOOOKay, and when did I say politics has nothing to do with this and in what respect is that pertinent? To your assertion, you bet politics has something to do with this. Im wondering myself, if Hassan was not terrorism but "workplace violence," is this "workplace violence" too? I have a feeling it won't be called that. But I still wonder how that makes the actions of a lone freak (if in fact he is guilty of what he is accused of) the moral equivalent of an entire murderous religion, which is the matter asserted by apologists for Islam. When you assert that Bales actions are the result of military culture, lack of care, blah, blah, you support the case of these apologists by offering evidence of a culture as dedicated to the killig of muslims as muslim culture is dedicated to killing everyone else, and that is simply a false moral equivalence.

Lujlp says - If your enenmy is the emotion equivelent of your kids you wont fire and will get your squadmates killed.

That is something each soldier has to work out for himself, but in every case there are circumstances to be considered around the event. If I am entering a house as a memeber of a squad, and a kid makes a move I take as being a move for a weapon, I have to, for the sake of my squad, do what has to be done to neutralize the threat. If in the final analysis I am wrong, we consider the totality of the circumstances. Even if I am wrong, there is a world, a planet, a galaxy of difference between that and going into a village at night and gunning people down.

In a perfect world, Robert Bales will be handed over to Afghan government to be tried for the crimes he may or may not have committed.

I wouldn't turn a dog over to a government that's willing to execute one of its citizens simply because he changed religion, let alone a fellow American.

In a perfect world, 1000 years from now Afghani mothers would frighten their children into behaving simply by saying keep this up, and the Americans will come and get you.

Sam, please join with Eric in taking your moral equivalence and shoving it up your ass.

What Bob said.