I get what you're saying here, but I think it's a bit felacious. Some people are sick and can't afford treatment. Because of their illness they don't have the means to go make more money and pay for better health care, so they take what they can get and do the best they can. It's not like they can just decide they don't want to be sick anymore and get off their ass and get better. They can decide they don't want a messy house, get off their ass and clean though.

Felacious.

The way the SCOTUS interpreted this ruling of the commerce clause, Congress can now mandate that you go to the gym for X hours a week or you can have a tax penalty.

You have to eat Brussel sprouts every week or you face a tax penalty.They can even force you to hire a maid even though you keep your home immaculate by yourself.

A socialist system works until you run out of OPM (Other People's Money).

Yes, the ObamaCare ruling is a going to increase cost to all of us while decreasing our medical options.

But, I'm more concerned that this decision was made on the premise that Congress is constitutionally authorized to order citizens to do or buy whatever the federal government wants us to or pay a fine/tax.

How is this different from a dictatorship?

Re: the commerce clause...

If you won't read it, I'll read it to you. What the Supreme Court
said about the commerce clause is that it gives "the power to
regulate commerce, not to compel it." The decision eliminated the
commerce clause as an acceptable way to mandate insurance.

I am not domestic in the slightest. I was the sole breadwinner for my family for 20+ years, I grew up in a house that would have been featured on that "hoarders" show, and between never really learning how and being to damned tired to care, my house was always a wreck.

So I made it part of my budget to get someone in once or twice a month to clean for me. I only have 1 car, I don't go out to dinner or movies, I belong to Sam's club and buy my groceries with coupons. So I made a conscious choice to have a clean house without stressing myself to the edge of a breakdown (early on I tried to do everything myself, and ended up in the hospital with pneumonia).

If someone were to say to me tomorrow that I could have such a service for "free", I'd laugh myself fuzzy. There is no "free lunch", I've paid my taxes, I've seen what comes out of my paycheck.

The government would never get me the service that I have, for the price I get it, from the people that I get it from and whom I love, that do such a wonderful job for me. So, no, I do not want the gov to interfere.

If it ain't broke, don't "fix" it.

I guess I should explain in more detail. The supreme court's
disallowance of the commerce clause justification is the reason that
CNN and Fox reported that the court ruled against the mandate. They
corrected those erroneous reports, later.

Instead, the court permitted the social engineering via the tax
code. The U.S. has a long history of doing this. They encourage
you to have kids (via the dependent deduction). They want you to
buy a house (thus, the home mortgage interest deduction). They want
you to insulate that house (tax credit for doing so), etc. Adding
yet another income tax trick isn't that big a change.

Instead, the court permitted the social engineering via the tax code. The U.S. has a long history of doing this. -- Ron at July 4, 2012 4:44 PM

You are right on that. The issue is that Obamacare was, effectively, promulgated on the commerce clause. SCOTUS ruled it was a tax or penalty.

That means we now have to restrict the 16th and put a new, restricted definition of the commerce clause in the Constitution.

I still say we need an Article 5 convention.

Hey Amy!

Multiparent households are essentially socialized family.

Don't we have a right to spic-and-span living quarters

I think you're onto something.

After all, people who live in clean houses have better health, less infections, and are less likely to have falling accidents.

It's For Public Health!

There ae plenty of people collecting government money. I wouldn't let some of them into my house, but we are already paying them.