Officer Doesn't Care That There's Such A Thing As The First Amendment
Cop seizes a woman's iPad and threatens to arrest her after she videotapes in public.
Law prof Jonathan Turley writes:
What I found the most interesting about this video is that the officer is citing the fact that this is a public area as the basis for threatening arrest for the woman yelling and disturbing the peace. It is the very fact that it is public that gives her the right to film so long as she is not physically interfering with the stop or arrest.







Amy, I guess you've seen the Youtube video of the guy that the police arrested for videotaping, and then they shot his poor dog. I had nightmares after seeing that video.
Cousin Dave at July 3, 2013 5:58 AM
Cops are thugs. All of them.
Yesterday I saw a cop litter. I asked him for his badge number and he scoffed and walked away.
I need to get a dashcam.
TJIC at July 3, 2013 6:04 AM
Amy Alkon
http://www.advicegoddess.com/archives/2013/07/03/officer_doesnt.html#comment-3783909">comment from Cousin DaveI couldn't watch it. I'm especially sensitive about dogs lately. I miss Lucy terribly and last night, we watched the BBC show, Luther (which is great), and they had a dog cremation scene (just putting it in the thing) and I wish I hadn't seen it.
Going to get another doggie, but I have to finish my book first, and both Gregg and I find my house sad at times for the lack of Lucy. She used to need to be raised up to lick his ear when she got here. We both miss that.
Amy Alkon
at July 3, 2013 6:08 AM
What?! Lucy's gone? Bummer, sorry to hear that.
Little Shiva at July 3, 2013 6:54 AM
Clearly, why have the constitution or laws at all when the police just make $hit up as they go along?
Lee Ladisky at July 3, 2013 7:13 AM
Not saying who's right or wrong here - but nobody can tell from this video snippet whether or not the officer is justified in doing what he's doing.
Obviously, something has gone on before the video starts. We don't know what.
Once again, not saying who's right or wrong.
What it looks like to me - looks like, I can''t say for sure - is that the woman was filming in a place where she is not allowed to film (township board meeting, maybe?), and the officer stopped her from doing that, taking away her I-Pad in the process. The action then moves outside, to a public place, where filming continues. Note that the officer does not try to stop the filming that takes place in public - else how would we be seeing this video? The woman then becomes loud and argumentative, and he tells her to move on. Note that he repeatedly gives her the opportunity to recover her 'stuff', possibly including the I-Pad, but she's too busy making speeches.
Need a lot more context before any of the conclusions being made here can be justified.
First rule of police work - believe only half of what you see, and none of what you hear.
llater,
llamas
llamas at July 3, 2013 8:35 AM
Similar thing happened here in New Haven, last year. Woman was using her iPhone to video an arrest, one of the cops had his foot on the guy's head. She was arrested because when the cop tried to take her phone she put it in her bra.
Flynne at July 3, 2013 9:05 AM
Here's a part of the rest of the story:
http://www.wfmj.com/story/22749319/pulaski-twp-resident-raises-ethics-questions-during-township-hearing-on-new-drilling-permits
It is reported that the lady was asked to leave the township meeting for causing a disturbance, which apparently involved filming. Her I-Pad was seized, but was apparently returned to her almost-immediately - this only happened Monday.
So she wasn't threatened with arrest for videotaping, as alleged. She was asked to leave for creating a disturbance, which she did. Maybe she was threatened with arrest if she refused to leave after creating a disturbance - which seems fair enough. Your 1A rights don't extend to the right to creat a disturbance.
The threat of arrest was after she continued to make a disturbance in public and would not pipe down or move along. Nothing to do with videotaping, and indeed, the officer knew when he made the threat to arrest her that he was being videotaped, and he did nothing to stop it.
In other words, the headlines screamed all over the story don't seem to have any connection to what actually happened.
Funny how that happens.
llater,
llamas
llamas at July 3, 2013 9:08 AM
Ack! link-fail!
http://www.wtnh.com/dpp/news/crime/woman-busted-for-videotaping-police#.UdRLfm1ibj4
Flynne at July 3, 2013 9:10 AM
I've been thinking of you lately, Amy - you just keep cranking out the work without a break, but I know it must be awfully hard without Lucy.
My favorite part of the day is coming home to my sweet little old pug lady, and I think that when she is gone I won't even want to come home anymore. I'll probably get home from work and, I don't know, sleep in my car or something.
I do look forward to hearing about it when you adopt a new dog.
Pirate Jo at July 3, 2013 10:00 AM
So she was creating a disturbance by filming a public meeting in a public place where public employees answers question put to them by the public? A public meeting of public officials which is recorded anyway by those public officals in order to produce transcripts to give to the public.
I can see how that is disturbing
lujlp at July 4, 2013 5:30 AM
Luj, I was thinking the same thing... where I live, the state's open-meetings law guarantees the right to film public meetings.
Cousin Dave at July 5, 2013 7:05 AM
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