More People Shocked That Paying Other People's Expenses Costs Money
Matt Vespa blogs at PJTattler that "Tirge Caps" at Daily Kos isn't happy that Obamacare will increase his family's health care premiums. Here's what he had to say:
My wife and I just got our updates from Kaiser telling us what our 2014 rates will be. Her monthly has been $168 this year, mine $150. We have a high deductible. We are generally healthy people who don't go to the doctor often. I barely ever go. The insurance is in case of a major catastrophe.Well, now, because of Obamacare, my wife's rate is gong to $302 per month and mine is jumping to $284.
I am canceling insurance for us and I am not paying any fucking penalty. What the hell kind of reform is this?
Oh, ok, if we qualify, we can get some government assistance. Great. So now I have to jump through another hoop to just chisel some of this off. And we don't qualify, anyway, so what's the point?
I never felt too good about how this was passed and what it entailed, but I figured if it saved Americans money, I could go along with it.
Yeah, they'd just pluck dollars off bushes in the national parks and nobody would have to pay a cent more to pay for all these people who, say, decided to gamble and go without and then got sick and were faced with huge premiums.
Sure, there were some people who couldn't get in from a ridiculously early age, but that could have been solved without overhauling our whole healthcare system.
And when they did that, the morons didn't bother to untie healthcare from the workplace -- in an age when few stay in a single job very long.
Progressives. All full of sanctimonious compassion, generosity and helping the poor... as long as it's not costing them anything.
So he and his wife were paying $318 a month for insurance, and now they're going to pay $586 a month for the same thing. Suckers!
Maybe it will help them if they think of the $270 increase as their contribution to helping insure the poor... who still won't be able to afford actual health care with their obamacare's massive deductibles and co-insurance. But at least they'll have insurance.
Obamacare: way more money for giant insurance, pharmaceutical and healthcare corporations; way more power for the government. Is that what they would call a win/win situation? No wonder they love.
Ken R at October 17, 2013 3:26 AM
Re-engineering a quote from S.Tepper (in "Gibbon's Decline and Fall"), if the only way to any service is through a narrow little gate with picky little gatekeepers, then that service is no bigger than that gate nor wiser than the keepers.
Viewer from afar at October 17, 2013 5:13 AM
It's easy to explain. A majority of the population believes in the existence of the Scrooge McDuck Money Bin. The plan was that the SMcDMB would pay for everything. All they had to do was check a box on a ballot, and for that trivial output of effort, they could pat themselves on the back that they Ended Poverty and Saved The Planet. The whole Obamacare campaign was an appeal to narcissism, avarice, and lust for power. And it worked. Brilliantly.
Cousin Dave at October 17, 2013 6:27 AM
If only someone had warned them this would happen.
Harry Bergeron at October 17, 2013 7:08 AM
Cousin Dave: "A majority of the population believes in the existence of the Scrooge McDuck Money Bin."
Yep, that is so true; and we are about to watch it happen in NYC. De Blasio is running his campaign for Mayor on the rich need to "do" more (read that "do" as pay). In one of his ads he says that they have nannies and other advantages so they should help pay for daycare for the rest of New York city. And, no surprise, he is ahead in the polls.
Just wait until all the rich leave New York and the rest of the folks are stuck paying the bill for all those "advantages" he feel that everyone else should get.
It is one of the seven deadly sins - envy. I know, I know, talk of old-fashioned values like the seven deadly sins is gauche and oh so out of touch; but, hey, I believe it to be true. The American voters are now suckered into such stuff and see nothing wrong with envy - "I deserve what everyone else has without having to work for it."
Charles at October 17, 2013 7:49 AM
Question: So does coverage for "pre-existing conditions" mean I can go without health insurance so long as I am healthy and pay a penalty. But if I develop a horrible medical condition, I can get coverage and be fully insured when I visit a doctor ?
If true, that is not "insurance" but "welfare".
Nick at October 17, 2013 7:55 AM
Wait...there are rich people still living in NYCity?
I R A Darth Aggie at October 17, 2013 8:08 AM
The best (worst/scariest) part of the comment board at Kos are the people who are adamantly blaming the greed of the insurance companies and trying to reassure each other that Obamacare (and its mandates/price fixing) has nothing to do with this.
AB at October 17, 2013 9:24 AM
As I understand it -- that is how Romneycare works in Massachusetts. He actually campaigned against setting up a similar system nationwide.
Jim P. at October 19, 2013 8:24 PM
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