Annoying Somebody Until They Agree To Have Sex With You Is Now Rape
Christina Hoff Sommers writes in the WaPo about how a CDC sexual violence study overstates the problem, reporting that "More than 1 in 3 women and 1 in 4 men have experienced rape, physical violence and/or stalking by an intimate partner in their lifetime":
It found them by defining sexual violence in impossibly elastic ways and then letting the surveyors, rather than subjects, determine what counted as an assault. Consider: In a telephone survey with a 30 percent response rate, interviewers did not ask participants whether they had been raped. Instead of such straightforward questions, the CDC researchers described a series of sexual encounters and then they determined whether the responses indicated sexual violation. A sample of 9,086 women was asked, for example, "When you were drunk, high, drugged, or passed out and unable to consent, how many people ever had vaginal sex with you?" A majority of the 1.3 million women (61.5 percent) the CDC projected as rape victims in 2010 experienced this sort of "alcohol or drug facilitated penetration."What does that mean? If a woman was unconscious or severely incapacitated, everyone would call it rape. But what about sex while inebriated? Few people would say that intoxicated sex alone constitutes rape -- indeed, a nontrivial percentage of all customary sexual intercourse, including marital intercourse, probably falls under that definition (and is therefore criminal according to the CDC).
Other survey questions were equally ambiguous. Participants were asked if they had ever had sex because someone pressured them by "telling you lies, making promises about the future they knew were untrue?" All affirmative answers were counted as "sexual violence." Anyone who consented to sex because a suitor wore her or him down by "repeatedly asking" or "showing they were unhappy" was similarly classified as a victim of violence. The CDC effectively set a stage where each step of physical intimacy required a notarized testament of sober consent.
oi... let's figure out what we want the study to say...
Then we can go ahead and find the stats to back that up.
I believe this is called The Narrative™
I'm surprised they are even mentioning men, but hey maybe they can get people to be...
Dunno what they want people to be. Does drunkenness have some kind of alcohol coefficient? Is it the same as DUI, and do you now have to have a breathalyser in your bedroom?
Coercive? So when you wife freezes you out for some long period of time, for whatever reason... and then when you change some behavior, or something, and she invites you back into your own bed... is that coercion?
With that definition, the male rate prolly skyrockets to 75% PLUS.
:massive eyeroll:
almost feels like everything is being defined so that no correct thinking person ever mates... and the species dies out.
Or at least someone else inherits the earth.
SwissArmyD at February 8, 2014 9:21 AM
So even by these ridiculously rigged standards, 2 out of 3 women reported no violations whatsoever. The Pilgrims would be proud that their descendants are so sober about sex.
Martin at February 8, 2014 9:30 AM
The CDC effectively set a stage where each step of physical intimacy required a notarized testament of sober consent.
Sounds like the CDC hired a bunch of Antioch College grads.
BTW -- I grew up not far from the place, but I don't remember visiting the campus even once.
Old RPM Daddy (OldRPMDaddy at GMail dot com) at February 8, 2014 9:59 AM
"The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention recently released a study suggesting that rates of sexual violence in the United States are comparable to those in the war-stricken Congo. How is that possible?"
What utter horseshit. Have these people run out of diseases to control?
Pricklypear at February 8, 2014 10:51 AM
That is the way to destroy these slanted statistics, give the same statistics for men.
Since no one would believe that 1/4 men were raped, it shows the 1/3 women stat is obviously so slanted to be wrong.
Joe J at February 8, 2014 11:13 AM
I dunno. Everything has become a moving target. Tequila=liquid panty remover
justme at February 8, 2014 11:43 AM
These people never seem to consider that such tendentious and expansive definitions of sexual assault can diminish the perceived seriousness of rape.
When Whoopy Goldberg can coin the term 'rape rape' and everyone immediately understands the significance of the distinction she's making, it tells you that the public is onto the fact that advocates have distorted the definition of rape.
norm at February 8, 2014 12:02 PM
"Anyone who consented to sex because a suitor wore her or him down by "repeatedly asking" or "showing they were unhappy" ... [Insert marriage joke here].
Michelle at February 8, 2014 11:41 PM
Meh, I don't have a lot of patience for the victim mentality.
You know, feminism has never been about 'strong women', they HATE strong women, because those women are never, ever, feminists.
Feminism hasn't gone anywhere but deeper into the victim hole for the last 40 years. Urging women to be responsible for their choices and to make them wisely is now sexism.
And the result of all that is showing.
For all their blather about how rare it is for women to lie about an assault, talk to any 10 men or women and you will find that at least half of them have either faced some form of false accusation of violence against a woman, or know someone that has.
Its standard practice in a divorce case to accuse a father of being abusive or a molester.
And if a feminist regrets her choice...well obviously it must be his fault.
A responsible feminist does not exist, because responsible women do not need feminism and see it for what it is, an impediment to women who actually can take care of themselves.
Robert at February 10, 2014 3:08 AM
Its standard practice in a divorce case to accuse a father of being abusive or a molester.
______________________________
Define "standard."
After all, of COURSE the MRAs want to talk only about such divorce cases and make them sound like the norm - other divorce cases don't get them much sympathy. As Benjamin Franklin wrote:
"Quarrels could never last long
If on one side were all the wrong."
lenona at February 12, 2014 7:20 AM
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