"Generation Wuss"
That's what Brett Easton Ellis calls the Millennial generation in a piece for Vanity Fair:
I have been living with someone from the Millennial generation for the last four years (he's now 27) and sometimes I'm charmed and sometimes I'm exasperated by how him and his friends--as well as the Millennials I've met and interacted with both in person and in social media--deal with the world, and I've tweeted about my amusement and frustration under the banner "Generation Wuss" for a few years now. My huge generalities touch on their over-sensitivity, their insistence that they are right despite the overwhelming proof that suggests they are not, their lack of placing things within context, the overreacting, the passive-aggressive positivity, and, of course, all of this exacerbated by the meds they've been fed since childhood by over-protective "helicopter" parents mapping their every move. These are late-end Baby Boomers and Generation X parents who were now rebelling against their own rebelliousness because of the love they felt that they never got from their selfish narcissistic Boomer parents and who end up smothering their kids, inducing a kind of inadequate preparation in how to deal with the hardships of life and the real way the world works: people won't like you, that person may not love you back, kids are really cruel, work sucks, it's hard to be good at something, life is made up of failure and disappointment, you're not talented, people suffer, people grow old, people die. And Generation Wuss responds by collapsing into sentimentality and creating victim narratives rather than acknowledging the realities of the world and grappling with them and processing them and then moving on, better prepared to navigate an often hostile or indifferent world that doesn't care if you exist....When Generation Wuss creates something they have so many outlets to display it that it often goes out into the world unfettered, unedited, posted everywhere, and because of this freedom a lot of the content displayed is rushed and kind of shitty and that's OK--it's just the nature of the world now--but when Millennials are criticized for this content they seem to collapse into a shame spiral and the person criticizing them is automatically labeled a hater, a contrarian, a troll. And then you have to look at the generation that raised them, that coddled them in praise--gold medals for everyone, four stars for just showing up--and tried to shield them from the dark side of life, and in turn created a generation that appears to be super confident and positive about things but when the least bit of darkness enters into their realm they become paralyzed and unable to process it.
Agree? Disagree? Your experience?
via @MZHemingway
The problem is: I have heard this about every generation. My dad is found of a quote from an ancient Greek writer about how that generation were a bunch of worthless slackers. And yet somehow human society keeps functioning.
I work at a University, so my experience may not be typical. I HAVE seen kids like he describes: timid, fragile and incapable of functioning outside of the home. But I blame a lot of that on the parents, who have made them like that by looking their shoulder their entire lives. I'm sure they will grow up eventually. However, I have also encountered millennials who are tough, hard-working and motivated. They deal with adversity well, take initiative and are very independent. They are also a lot more sensible than I was at that age.
In other words, my impressions is that they are just like very other generation: some bad, some good, mostly just young. They'll be fine. And in their time, they will complain about the SuperMillenials or whatever we name the next generation of slacker kids.
Mike at September 27, 2014 10:21 PM
I read a great piece on how there hasn't been a great generation since the parents of the baby boomers.
His description of Millenials is right. It's what strikes me so much about Reddit, a community I frequent. I'm in that generation but I never had parents that acknowledged my existence.
The worst behavior,, is that because your parents told you you're smart and you did good in school you deserve and should be guaranteed success. Here are a few of the things I've noticed:
Pretty women should ask socially inept men out (only the pretty ones)
Abusers pick people at random, saying otherwise is victim blaming
College should guarantee you a well paying job
Baby boomers are responsible for all the evil in the world. Period.
You need to be brutally honest 100% of the time with your partner
Saying anything can be called out as "shaming"
Emotional cheating is as bad as fucking a bunch of random strangers
Friends/family/ strangers should never judge you
Work should bring you a "living wage" which means one where you have tons of free time and money.
Ppen at September 27, 2014 10:52 PM
Ellis got this crap published?
Crid beats people down for free more eloquently, elegantly, stylishly, etc., and with far better grammar and clarity.
"...him and his friends..." Yuck. Ellis must be one of those special snowflakes.
Radwaste at September 28, 2014 1:31 AM
I'm not yet old enough to be exasperated by the youngsters, give me 10 or 20 years and I promise to be disgusted by the generation following the millenials.
NicoleK at September 28, 2014 2:54 AM
I'm not yet old enough to be exasperated by the youngsters, give me 10 or 20 years and I promise to be disgusted by the generation following the millenials.
NicoleK at September 28, 2014 2:55 AM
Sorry for the double posts, a lot of my comments havent been showing up recently.
NicoleK at September 28, 2014 2:55 AM
> beats people down for free
Never flatter me when I'm frosting your balls in a nearby thread.
Crid [CridComment at Gmail] at September 28, 2014 3:37 AM
people won't like you, that person may not love you back, kids are really cruel, work sucks, it's hard to be good at something, life is made up of failure and disappointment, you're not talented, people suffer, people grow old, people die
If you actually explained that to your kid, they'd ask you why you had them in the first place, and then what would you say? The condom broke? Your older brother was getting too big to cuddle?
Pirate Jo at September 28, 2014 7:12 AM
My kids don't seem this way, because we didn't reward them for just showing up, but many of their peers do seem like this. But Ellis has been rewarded for just showing up, so I don't knew why he's complaining.
KateC at September 28, 2014 7:24 AM
Word to KateC. Plus, if you're a somewhat washed-up 50-something who has convinced a 20-something to sleep with you on a regular basis, you might want to dial back the public expressions of contempt just a bit. It's tacky.
marion at September 28, 2014 7:59 AM
"Ellis got this crap published?"
He also somehow managed to get 'American Psycho' published, so he must have connections.
Or the editor had column inches to fill and a deadline to meet and thought 'what the hell, let's stir the pot'.
Gog_Magog_Carpet_Reclaimers at September 28, 2014 8:45 AM
"Never flatter me when I'm frosting your balls in a nearby thread."
Didn't say you were always right. The finest whore may be a whiz at math.
On occasion, you operate as if your sense of social justice trumps physics itself. No problem with self-esteem at your house.
Nice that you're thinking about my Herculean testicular prominence, though.
Radwaste at September 28, 2014 8:48 AM
If you actually explained that to your kid, they'd ask you why you had them in the first place, and then what would you say? The condom broke? Your older brother was getting too big to cuddle?
Posted by: Pirate Jo at September 28, 2014 7:12 AM
Overheard: "You were not all planned, but you are all very much wanted."
...Ppen, if you had a blog, I would follow it.
Michelle at September 28, 2014 9:13 AM
There is some broad truth in here, but if you're a guy in his 50s romantically involved with a 23-year-old, I'd say there might be better messengers when it comes to communicating thoughts on social maturity.
Kevin at September 28, 2014 9:19 AM
Amy Alkon
http://www.advicegoddess.com/archives/2014/09/28/generation_wuss.html#comment-5152691">comment from KevinHe's a guy in his 50s who can GET a 20-something partner.
There's recent research confirming what we already know -- men of all ages are attracted to women in their 20s. For gay men, that's the same, except swap in guys. Women like men of power and position and so do pretty young gay boys.
Amy Alkon at September 28, 2014 10:09 AM
> Didn't say you were always right.
You should've.
> Ellis has been rewarded for just
> showing up
☑
> if you're a somewhat washed-up
> 50-something who has convinced
> a 20-something to sleep with you
> on a regular basis, you might want
> to dial back the public expressions
> of contempt
☑
> He also somehow managed to get
> 'American Psycho' published, so
> he must have connections.
☑
Where's Tama Janowitz while all this is going on? And how big is her hair?
Stylish authors seem so unpleasant when they come into our lives, and then they seem even more unpleasant as they're refreshed in our memory.
At least Leyner turned it around. He did "Et Tu Babe," which was great, and then "Tetherballs," which was stupendous. And then he wrote "War, Inc.," one of the shittiest films in all of filmdom— Ham-handed and rude and kitchen-sinky ("Yeah, have Tomei do the three-button blouse thing... Yeah, it's a Middle-Eastern country, let's have belly dancers.")
Crid [CridComment at Gmail] at September 28, 2014 11:06 AM
off topic; But . . .
Amy: "There's recent research confirming what we already know -- men of all ages are attracted to women in their 20s. For gay men, that's the same, except swap in guys."
ewww, NO! That's twinkie territory. Some gay men like real men; most 20-year olds are not even close to being men yet.
Charles at September 28, 2014 11:58 AM
Yeah, it doesn't make much sense to base your perception of an entire generation on one person and his/her friends, especially if that one person is a 20-something in a relationship with a 50-something. The sorts of young people who end up in a relationship with someone 30 years older tend to be a little wussier than their peers, which is why they seek out mommy/daddy figures.
Jenny had a chance at September 28, 2014 12:02 PM
I think there's a bit of something to this, but the vast majority of young people are just young and idealistic. Time will fix both :)
Shannon at September 28, 2014 12:37 PM
Pot, meet Kettle.
Conan the Grammarian at September 28, 2014 1:10 PM
ewww, NO! That's twinkie territory. Some gay men like real men; most 20-year olds are not even close to being men yet.
True. And on the heterosexual side of things, George Clooney, who presumably could have kept attracting arm candy 20-somethings until he was on his deathbed, just married a 30-something high-achieving professional woman. Just because men CAN land 20-somethings doesn't mean they always WILL. But Amy is correct that Ellis isn't atypical in his attraction, just in who he's able to get to respond to that attraction. But I repeat: If you yourself aren't still a blazing superstar in your 50s and you are still able to land a 20-something, have some class about it, please.
marion at September 28, 2014 1:15 PM
Pot, meet Kettle.
Indeed.
In fact, I'd be hard-pressed to find something this insufferable and lacking in self awareness among the Millennial drivel on "Thought Catalog."
sofar at September 28, 2014 2:23 PM
I see wusses of all ages and genders.
I believe they will become food.
jefe at September 28, 2014 3:36 PM
As will the courageous.
Crid [CridComment at Gmail] at September 28, 2014 4:13 PM
> Clooney, who presumably could have
> kept attracting arm candy
My fave was the Frog.
(That Gimages page doesn't do her justice.)
Crid [CridComment at Gmail] at September 28, 2014 4:16 PM
And let's be clear, Michael Clayton was a (somewhat) underrated movie.
Crid [CridComment at Gmail] at September 28, 2014 4:19 PM
> If you yourself aren't still a
> blazing superstar in your 50s and
> you are still able to land a 20-
> something, have some class about
> it, please.
Um...
I'm not taking notes or anything.
I don't have anyone (specifically) in mind. …Who I'm ready to discuss. Publicly. At this point.
In time.
But how would that go, exactly?
Crid [CridComment at Gmail] at September 28, 2014 4:23 PM
"He's a guy in his 50s who can GET a 20-something partner."
I thought the lesson you learned after your 20s was that just because you're attracted to something doesn't mean you should pursue it?
We can't pick who were attracted to but I have never met a man whose into big giant fake tits who was anything other than a douche. Imma always side eye any 50 year old who partners up with a 20 year old no matter "biology".
(My eggs wanna get fertilized by a millionaire and I managed to ignore their request)
"Bret Easton Ellis: You have to understand that I’m coming to these things as a member of the most pessimistic and ironic generation that has ever roamed the earth"
Hahahahahahahahahahaha
Ppen at September 28, 2014 4:35 PM
But how would that go, exactly?
Crid: Good question. As I myself do not plan to be a 50-something trying to bag 20-somethings, I haven't studied up on the topic. But I think I can safely say that issuing poorly-written screeds decrying the entire generation to which one's lover belongs does *not* qualify as showing class or dignity. J.D. Salinger managed to bang an 18-year-old without voluntarily spilling his soul to the public on the topic -- not sure why Ellis is incapable of doing the same. OH WAIT, Salinger remained a relevant public figure of note, while Ellis is a has-been. Maybe that's it!
marion at September 28, 2014 5:08 PM
…but, were I issuing advice, I'd advise smiling silence. Not denial of the relationship, but one can admit to a relationship and mention, cheerfully, how lucky one is without going into gory details about the particulars. And for Freya's sake, avoid complaining about how shallow/immature/undeveloped the younger partner and/or the younger partner's generation is.
marion at September 28, 2014 5:16 PM
I'm not sure Salinger the young woman any favors - I haven't read her memoirs. But I think that's the relationship she was in when she ditched a full college scholarship.
So to "dignified silence" I would have to add The Campground Rule. Keep her long term future in mind and make every effort to leave her better off than you found her. I think that applies to anyone old enough to know that in the relationship, they're the only one old enough to know better.
Michelle at September 28, 2014 6:54 PM
Agree with Michelle.
Salinger was just a paranoid religious kookery recluse, he didint spill the beans cuz it went against his ugly personality.
Ppen at September 28, 2014 7:45 PM
"avoid complaining about how shallow/immature/undeveloped the younger partner and/or the younger partner's generation is."
But how do you get them Marion?
"You're so mature for your age, are you an old soul?"
"OMG YESS! I always felt I was more developed and deep than my peers"
"Baby you are. You are like a 50 year old in a hot hot 23 year old body"
"Hehe thanks. My peers are such dolts you're right. Let us bang"
"K"
Ppen at September 28, 2014 7:51 PM
> if you're a guy in his 50s
> romantically involved with a
> 23-year-old, I'd say there
> might be better messengers
> when it comes to communicating
> thoughts on social maturity.
We seem to agree it would be better if Ellis had given better evidence of, um, (looking at this passage) courage, stoicism, humility, proportion, stability (and a few other things) in his own life.
Being not-young anymore is OK if you did it right the first time. And for many of us, being not-young anymore is OK even though we bungled it.
Ellis apparently remains interested in the nature of youth, and in a few specific youths. Wink-wink. Nudge-nudge. The rest of us shouldn't be too bothered by his unproven rhetoric or his romantic choices.
A few years ago, Tressider and I did ten rounds on Salinger's sweetheart. I say the woman was crass and undercooked for selling his letters, though her weaknesses were probably why he made time for her. Right?
> I think that's the relationship
> she was in when she ditched a
> full college scholarship.
See "bungle," above. That's how some people —er, some of us— learn not to make similar mistakes in our thirties and forties. She went out and searched for that "ditch" with all her might: Few men in that century were as easy to avoid as Salinger.
Campgrounds aren't the best analogy for human hearts: We've each built our own, and no one will need it (or want it) when we're through. Swear to God I'm not trying to rope anyone in or anything, but see HG Brown's remorseless discussion about being a kept woman when young and pretty: American women can do what they want. Salinger may have been a prince or a dick, but Maynard was old enough to be licensed to drive.
> he didint spill the beans
> cuz it went against his
> ugly personality.
What beans were there? I'm not sure what you mean. What beans did he have to spill?
Also, I agree with Michelle about Ppen's blog. (That's NOT meant to say she has an old soul.... 'K?)
Crid [CridComment at Gmail] at September 28, 2014 10:14 PM
Ellis is writing about something real but he doesn't really get it.
It looks to me like people in their 20s and 30s are far more bi-modal in culture than the boomers and before.
There is one side that is very greatest generation in culture. They are fiscally and in some ways culturally conservative. And they are almost violently opposed to having smoke blown up their asses. I've known many millennials that when a manager starts doing the typical manager bullshit "There are no wrong answers" "We need everyone's input" "This isn't a my way or the highway decision" these people then look for a new job and move. Like their grandparents they don't complain. They don't talk about it. They just move and are gone.
The other side are adult-childs. Many are extremely bright and capable people. But one hump and they quit. A frown or some mild criticism and they fall into a pit of despair. These people are often vary communicative too. So maybe they are more obvious than the silent doer millenials.
I have seen adult-child types grow up, but it is rare. And it is almost entirely based on economic necessity.
Ben at September 29, 2014 6:57 AM
I read a great piece on how there hasn't been a great generation since the parents of the baby boomers.
My father-in-law has made a good case for "Greatest Generation" being the most entitled, self-absorbed bunch of asshats he's ever seen. He's a Boomer, and he takes care of his shit. Always has. In his opinion, GG expects all kinds of perks and fawning respect for having been born in a historically significant period, whether they contributed anything meaningful to the world or not.
I'm still rolling that one around in my head a bit.
MonicaP at September 29, 2014 7:45 AM
My father-in-law has made a good case for "Greatest Generation" being the most entitled, self-absorbed bunch of asshats he's ever seen. He's a Boomer, and he takes care of his shit. Always has. In his opinion, GG expects all kinds of perks and fawning respect for having been born in a historically significant period, whether they contributed anything meaningful to the world or not.
I'm still rolling that one around in my head a bit.
Posted by: MonicaP at September 29, 2014 7:45 AM
I am a boomer too.
Your FIL certainly may have believed this based on anecdotal evidence. Human nature hasn't changed much, and their are assholes and bad apples in every generation.
However, my experience has been, survivors of World War II who were in actual combat were usually pragmatic hardy individuals, that exemplified the best of America.
Life and living it, was precious to my father. He made the most of it. He knew the difference between a real danger and the made up nanny state threats the government gins up.
The friends I have who are the children of the A bomb (those of us whose future lives were undoubtedly saved by Harry Truman in August of 1945) have an admiration and respect for our fathers that is hard to measure, and hard to live up to.
Isab at September 29, 2014 9:27 AM
He's a guy in his 50s who can GET a 20-something partner.
We should all be that lucky.
mpetrie98 at September 29, 2014 9:46 AM
Overheard: "You were not all planned, but you are all very much wanted."
Sure, but for people with the extremely negative view of life that he portrays, it wouldn't make sense to even want children.
Pirate Jo at September 29, 2014 11:22 AM
>though her weaknesses were probably why he made time for her. Right?
Right.
>See "bungle," above. That's how some people —er, some of us
>— learn not to make similar mistakes in our thirties and
> forties. She went out and searched for that "ditch" with all her >might: Few men in that century were as easy to avoid as
>Salinger.
He sought her out - likely because of her weaknesses.
>Campgrounds aren't the best analogy for human hearts: We've
>each built our own, and no one will need it (or want it) when
>we're through. Swear to God I'm not trying to rope anyone in
>or anything, but see HG Brown's remorseless discussion about
>being a kept woman when young and pretty: American women
>can do what they want. Salinger may have been a prince or a
>dick, but Maynard was old enough to be licensed to drive.
As adults we build our own hearts. This might involve a lot of demolition and rebuilding for young adults given shitty foundations and destructive blueprints.
Generally speaking, I think a certain level of compatible dysfunction gives a relationship traction. And then friction. Which can be the groundwork for catharsis (or not).
Some part of me is still going to wonder why a 50-something someone would pursue a relationship with someone in their teens or early twenties.
Maynard was old enough to drive, but I do presume a 50 year old person knows that most teenagers know shit about navigating.
I respect the freedom and dignity in going for what you want, and taking the most attractive option - but I expect wisdom to come with age and discretion to be the better part of valor.
That said, I know of one 20/50 couple. They have been together for decades, and they have my high regard.
If travelers are well met, I wish them only the best.
Unless one of the young travelers is in my family, in which case I wish them a sporting head start, because clearly I am a bit protective/ not entirely rational about this.
Michelle at September 29, 2014 7:51 PM
Sure, but for people with the extremely negative view of life that he portrays, it wouldn't make sense to even want children.
Posted by: Pirate Jo at September 29, 2014 11:22 AM
Yet some people who feel that way, create children. Thoughtless actions can set very real consequences in motion. Learning that you were unwanted by one of your parents, not wanted enough for them to come around and show up, can be brutal. I hope people get to experience what is good in this world, including being cherished by someone they adore.
Michelle at September 29, 2014 8:06 PM
Life and living it, was precious to my father. He made the most of it. He knew the difference between a real danger and the made up nanny state threats the government gins up.
My father also served during WWII, although I'm Gen X. I think our fathers would have gotten along.
MonicaP at September 29, 2014 8:33 PM
> Some part of me is still going to
> wonder why a 50-something someone
> would pursue a relationship with
> someone in their teens or
> early twenties.
Tits.
Sometimes, ass.
Young tail is dreamy, corruptible, and (by definition) futuristic. And the future is always easy because you don't have to deal with it yet. The simplicity has something to do with it, certainly... It's not just the velvety skin and luxuriant hair.
Now, I wouldn't do that, either. But this guy taught Pynchon how the 'recluse' thing was done. She might have had, or presented, a great deal of interpersonal magic to get their contact off the ground... Or might have had other, sincere charms. I figure it's like Lewinsky; no reason to assume there wasn't genuine affection. (You apparently agree.)
Valor is a wonderful thing, but love laughs at locksmiths.
Crid [CridComment at Gmail] at September 29, 2014 8:42 PM
Yet some people who feel that way, create children. Thoughtless actions can set very real consequences in motion.
Right! That's why I'm saying, here's this guy with an incredibly negative view of the world and of life, he thinks everything sucks, but when life sucks for a member of the younger generation, it's ALL THEIR FAULT! They're simply doing it wrong!
The truth is, that young person didn't ask to be here. But they are stuck here anyway due to, as you put it, the thoughtless actions of their parents. Who then have the nerve to blame the kid for having a hard time.
Pirate Jo at September 30, 2014 7:12 AM
The truth is, that young person didn't ask to be here. But they are stuck here anyway due to, as you put it, the thoughtless actions of their parents. Who then have the nerve to blame the kid for having a hard time.
Posted by: Pirate Jo at September 30, 2014 7:12 AM
Sing it, sister.
~~~
Valor is a wonderful thing, but love laughs at locksmiths.
Posted by: Crid [CridComment at Gmail] at September 29, 2014 8:42 PM
And for that I am grateful.
Michelle at September 30, 2014 2:52 PM
Good girl.
Crid [CridComment at Gmail] at September 30, 2014 3:23 PM
Eternally.
My lucky break was falling in love with a former delinquent, someone about a decade older.
It was a stretch to date a hot older woman when I was too young to get into a bar, but well worth the effort.
Michelle at September 30, 2014 7:24 PM
Right... So, like, Maynard was going to have to learn sometime. (I tried to read that NYmag piece, but there's just not enough meat on the bones.)
Crid [CridComment at Gmail] at September 30, 2014 7:43 PM
Data. (Het's only; this is a LARGE sample, people... Don't take it too personally, OK?)
(But don't consider yourself excused from that planet, either.)
Crid [CridComment at Gmail] at September 30, 2014 9:16 PM
So, like, Maynard was going to have to learn sometime.
Posted by: Crid [CridComment at Gmail] at September 30, 2014 7:43 PM
Long after she ended the relationship with J.D., and after her divorce, Maynard once again became romantically involved with someone by letter - a convicted felon.
http://themoth.org/posts/stories/the-one-good-man
The learning is optional, and sometimes slow (some of the biggest mistakes I've made, I've made at least twice).
But I get your point.
Michelle at September 30, 2014 9:33 PM
Downloading that podcast... The opening sentences aren't promising, because they're about lonely men.
Maybe the larger lesson here is "Don't have an alcoholic dad like Maynard did."
No stats or anything, but I'd bet that with a loving and communicative father, she might not have had this kind of fascination. Women who understand masculine nature don't regard lonely, isolated guys as exotic or interesting.
And listen, Salinger pursued her because she was a cute girl on a magazine cover, right? The kind who'd be impressed that a writer such as himself would make time to write to her.
But if Salinger had gone to a different newsstand, he might have gone for Bailey instead, right?
Crid [CridComment at Gmail] at September 30, 2014 11:12 PM
Yes to all of that, especially "the larger lesson here is "Don't have an alcoholic dad like Maynard did."
He might have gone for Bailey as well. He had a history of going for much younger women, including the woman who divorced him before he pursued Maynard. Maynard's early work included a piece for which she was accused of violating a family's privacy, so maybe all the cards were on the table before they began.
The podcast details a train wreck. As a kid I read her column until she ended it, so this particular train wreck brings new light to old memories. I find her story remarkable because it is not unique in her life, and in that is the object lesson.
Thanks for the Bailey flashbacks. That show had me certain I would move to Ohio and work at a radio station. It also helped me rule out becoming a truck driver ("I got tired and tired of packing and unpacking"). But then I stopped just short of Ohio.
Michelle at October 1, 2014 8:23 AM
Her obsessions will never be mine... I only lasted for ten seconds into the podcast. It's like we're back where we started.
As if Maynard never really grew out of her childish ignorance of masculine cunning, and the girly fascination with (cleverly) a wordy man 'who never even tried to hold my hand!' I think girls who're well-loved by good fathers pass through those stages in an afternoon, or at least one summer, no later than the twelfth.
As if Ellis is unduly fascinated by young lives, perhaps needing pretend --through essays like this one-- that his fascination is intellectual as well.
Okay, let's give the Devil his due: Men are different than women, and will always be looking at freshly fertile sweethearts. But I think a well-loved boy will see a marriage in which the attractions of older company are apparent and comfortable, and the natural attraction to youth isn't so blindingly powerful.
Crid [CridComment at Gmail] at October 1, 2014 8:56 AM
Maybe twenty seconds... It was the introductory sentences. 'We're going to talk for an hour in detail about a bunch of foolishness that grown women don't bother with, and you'll think it's interesting, too!'
I listened to a grade-school-level lecture on Korea instead. Did you know that in 1906, the Japanese....
Crid [CridComment at Gmail] at October 1, 2014 9:04 AM
Well said.
That explains why the Ellis essay is both long and vague.
Thank you.
Michelle at October 1, 2014 9:30 AM
Seriously.
Crid [CridComment at Gmail] at October 1, 2014 10:00 AM
In his opinion, GG expects all kinds of perks and fawning respect for having been born in a historically significant period, whether they contributed anything meaningful to the world or not.
I've never met such a person born between 1903 and 1928. The only one's I read about were the 'notch babies' who were obtrusive about a generation ago (co-incident with Daniel Rostenkowski's car being mobbed over the misbegotten catastrophic care measure).
Art Deco at October 2, 2014 1:08 PM
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