Yale University: Just One Big Nursery School With A Lot Of Ivy
Yet another example of grown men and women attending college being treated like nursery school students.
A Yale frat has been banned from the campus for two years because two frat members made what were judged by the college speech and thought police to be inappropriate remarks. (Sorry, but isn't that what frats have always been -- at least a bit -- about? Didn't anyone in charge see "Animal House"?)
An excerpt of the story from Michael Melia at Associated Press:
HARTFORD, Conn. (AP) -- A fraternity has been banned from Yale University's campus for two years over an initiation ceremony that violated the school's sexual misconduct policy, the Ivy League university announced Friday.The local chapter of Sigma Alpha Epsilon apologized in a letter to the Yale community for harm caused by a presentation made during the February 2014 initiation.
A spokesman at the fraternity's national headquarters, Brandon Weghorst, said its investigation found that two members made inappropriate comments about a female student. He said the fraternity does not condone demeaning language and it ordered sexual assault and harassment prevention training for all members.
"Sexual misconduct policy" banning speech? It must fall under what they term "sexual harassment."
Sexual misconduct on college campuses has been in the spotlight as students and the federal government demand stricter policies and stronger enforcement.
Somebody (in addition to campus free speech defenders theFIRE.org) needs to start pushing back against all of this. Are students all too lazy and comfortable to care?
I had a tough childhood, with no friends, and a lot of taunting and even some physical abuse from bullies. I'm not for meanness. But you can't ban meanness in life and colleges have absolutely no business policing language, unless somebody is ordering the death or maiming of other people or the destruction of property.
via @AdamKissel







Hi Amy! I'm back! I was in a really bad funk for a while and didn't want to bring any down, so I kept it to myself. Getting some help and getting better now.
Anyway, I've lived near New Haven most of my life, and I have to tell you, most of the kids (not all, but most) who go to Yale have such over-inflated senses of entitlement, it's ridiculous. There have been a LOT of rapes and sexual misconduct over the years, and I know that the staff is sick of paying out every time something happens. It's not fair to the kids who aren't involved in the idiocy, but there are so many sexual assaults that go unreported, that the ones that do get reported are taken more seriously now than they ever were. Frat boys will be frat boys, but a LOT of people are sick and tired of their shit anymore. And Yale has been paying out more and more in settlements and fines lately than they ever have before. It's crazy, but that's just how things are right now.
Flynne at February 17, 2015 4:51 AM
Amy Alkon
http://www.advicegoddess.com/archives/2015/02/17/yale_university.html#comment-5855531">comment from FlynneMissed you, Flynnie. So glad to hear you're getting better.
Amy Alkon
at February 17, 2015 4:52 AM
Flynne, good for you. Take it one day at a time.
Bob in texas at February 17, 2015 5:42 AM
I can see this being the beginning of something... OCR will start hinting to colleges that, in order to stay on the straight and narrow with Title IX, they will have to ban fraternities. Expect a "Deal Colleague" letter in a year or so.
(And to address what Flynne said: At a place like Yale there are going to be a lot of influential-family scions, who are untouchable by campus discipline and won't be called out by the campus feminists because of their status. So that can be true without invalidating the larger point about schools being pushed by the government to ban fraternities.)
Cousin Dave at February 17, 2015 6:28 AM
SAE must have already been on Double Secret Probation to get banned for that.
bkmale at February 17, 2015 7:50 AM
I'm having difficulty figuring out exactly what the frat is being punished for. Is the allegation that they said something inappropriate during a secret (and private) initiation?
Mike at February 17, 2015 10:37 AM
Insult a retarded princess, pay the price!
Jay R at February 17, 2015 10:46 AM
This piece of the story is quite telling:
"While these comments were isolated actions of those two men, we cannot validate what may have been said," Weghorst said."
If they were isolated actions why is everyone being pushed?
If they cannot validate what was said why is anyone being punished?
P.S., I do wish stories like this would actually print what exactly was said; let me be my own judge as to whether the comment was "inappropriate" and worthy of a ban.
charles at February 17, 2015 1:49 PM
But doing that would be double plus ungood.
Who are we to think for ourselves, we are supposed to trust our benevolent overlords blindly.
lujlp at February 17, 2015 2:38 PM
I think the students need Yale too much. They can't push back because they need to get a degree from Yale, and there's little else to substitute for that. Plus, imagine being blacklisted from Universities!
Lance Meibos at February 17, 2015 6:26 PM
Welcome back Flynne! Feel well!
Crid [CridComment at Gmail] at February 17, 2015 6:57 PM
Thanks, you guys. Like Bob says, one day at a time! Working on it and getting back to where I need to be.
I was talking to one of my daughter's friends about this issue, and she says this kind of thing "happens on most campuses" but that "the media picks on Yale because it's such a prominent school and they want to use Yale to set an example". She thinks the whole incident has been blown out of proportion to "appease the femi-nazis"! Gods bless her, she's one of the few who can smell the bullshit a mile away.
Flynne at February 18, 2015 4:06 AM
Glad you're back, Mighty Flynne!
Old RPM Daddy (OldRPMDaddy at GMail dot com) at February 18, 2015 4:36 AM
I think some students should fight back with a civil rights lawsuit against things like this law in California that requires universities to demand students obtain continued positive consent from women to have sex.
And women wonder why prostitution is becoming such big business. It's just not worth it to even talk to a woman anymore. Seriously, even going on a date with the kind of wacko that comes out of that sort of education is scary. They will do anything, at any time, reverse course and accuse you of rape or harassing them. Anything can set them off.
Pau; at February 18, 2015 11:12 PM
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