But wait...aren't too many people putting the climate at risk for change?
I R A Darth Aggie
at December 5, 2017 8:09 AM
Back when quality mattered.
When Voyager 1's trajectory correction maneuver thrusters last fired, Ronald Reagan had just been elected president. Over 30 years ago, about a decade into the spacecraft's journey out to the edge of our solar system and beyond, the thrusters had officially served their purpose. The trajectory correction maneuver (TCM) thrusters sent out little puffs of power to correct the object's course, allowing Voyager 1 to explore Jupiter, Saturn, and several moons orbiting them. After the last course correction for Saturn on November 8, 1980, the TCMs went silent.
Last week, NASA scientists fired them up again. And 37 years after being put out to pasture, the thrusters worked. They could even extend the mission of the invaluable space probe by several years.
Anyone, ANYONE who uses the term "fake news" is part of the problem.
Crid
at December 5, 2017 9:24 AM
Name the band.
In October, the band became the first act to sell out four consecutive shows at the Hollywood Bowl, an open-air theater in the hills of Los Angeles that’s hosted everyone from the Beatles to Luciano Pavarotti.
Maybe not fake, but how about "bought and paid for news"?
Court filings released last month by the House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence suggest growing evidence of a pay-to-publish scandal that may shake large parts of the Washington press corps.
I was a cop on a Native American Indian reservation in 1979, and the worst racism I ever saw against blacks was by some of the Native Americans, but of course, it was nothing like slavery or Jim Crow laws. I also noticed that they really hated the "white man" for the awful things the government did to the Native Americans in the past.
I also noticed in some states, the "whites" discriminated against Native Americans, such as going onto the reservation and emptying the trash onto the road from their car. Not many know, but Native Americans can actually legally be excluded from an Indian Reservation (they are actually a sovereign nation), regardless of the reason. However, if the employee works for the federal government, the employee can't be excluded from the reservation, for example, a Bureau of Indian Affairs employee.
However, in most other areas (6 states) I have lived in, I haven't seen much discrimination by either Native Americans or blacks against whites,and vice versa. Most of the discrimination was against Native Americans and blacks.
Daniel
at December 5, 2017 10:35 AM
Interesting that a Balthus piece painted just one year after the nazis declared all modern art "degenerate" is now facing censure.
However, in most other areas (6 states) I have lived in, I haven't seen much discrimination by either Native Americans or blacks against whites,and vice versa.
Much of the current foaming at the mouth about whites is confined to college campuses. Hopefully it can be contained, but I have my doubts. Here's a case where it was, shall we say? nipped in the bud.
The editors fired the columnist. Question: will they also fire the editor who approved the column in question?
I R A Darth Aggie
at December 5, 2017 11:33 AM
I was a cop on a Native American Indian reservation in 1979, and the worst racism I ever saw against blacks was by some of the Native Americans,
_______________________________
I'm curious - examples? Why was it happening, in your opinion?
lenona
at December 5, 2017 12:30 PM
Jonathan Swift's 350th anniversary was on Nov. 30th. Plenty of tributes!
While I'm pretty sure Swift wasn't thinking of this when he wrote "Gulliver's Travels" (because some scholar would have confirmed this by now if Swift HAD been thinking of it), it was a common superstition in his time that you HAD to break the big end of an egg at some point. Otherwise, a witch might use it as a boat!!
(For those who don't know, he was paralyzed from the waist down, in the 1970s, in a car accident and went on, in the 1990s, to become "one of the first Western broadcast journalists to report from Kurdish refugee camps in Northern Iraq and Southern Turkey." He couldn't bring his wheelchair up the hills, of course - but he managed to make the deadline anyway. That also meant not eating or drinking anything for maybe more than a day.)
In HIS case, I'm not that surprised about the accusations, sadly. About 20 years ago, I read his memoir, and, IIRC, he made it clear he was not above slashing the tires of strangers with the "right" provocation. I knew I would never want to meet him - or anyone like that.
And let's remember that, aside from his case, dealing with a boss who harasses you is NOT as easy as simply getting up and walking out of the room. Unless you can afford not to get promoted and/or to have your reputation tarnished.
...One woman, discussing a print journalist who harassed her in her early 20s, tells of an inverse dynamic: “Other female writers weren’t getting harassed, as far as we knew, which meant that they were the serious writers. We were silly little girls, not deserving of being thought of as real journalists if we were singled out for this treatment.” The slow-drip degradation, she says, led her to quit the profession. “He didn’t grope me, and he didn’t succeed in fucking me. But the way it made me feel — these insidious sexual advances you barely understand at that age, plus the constant professional undermining — it felt like you were never going to win, like you had no value.”
The reason that handsy colleagues exist on the same plane as violent predators is that the harm done to women doesn’t end with the original offense. It’s also how we’re evaluated based on our reactions to it. Do we smile or remain stone-faced, reciprocate or retreat, ignore or complain? What becomes of us hangs on what we choose.
Considering all of these angles, it’s easy to conclude that this moment actually isn’t radical enough, because it’s limited to sexual grievances. One 60-year-old friend, who is single and in a precarious professional situation, says, “I’m burning with rage watching some assholes pose as good guys just because they never put their hands on a colleague’s thigh, when I know for a fact they’ve run capable women out of workplaces in deeply gendered ways. I’m very frustrated, because I’m not in a position right now to spill some beans.”...
...I once heard that a choking person reflexively leaves the room, embarrassed for others to see her gasping for breath. I have no idea if that’s true, but it’s how I’ve dealt with harassment. One time on the subway, the man next to me wound his hand under my thigh and between my legs, as I sat there debating whether or not to stand up or scream because I DIDN'T WANT TO EMBARRASS HIM ON A FULL TRAIN. That’s why, when an important writer took me to coffee, offering to help me find a new job, and asked if I’d ever fantasized about fucking a married man, I simply laughed maniacally, as if he’d just made a joke about a 65-year-old man who suggests to a 25-year-old woman that she fuck him during a professional coffee...
...So, no, I was never serially sexually harassed. But the stink got on me anyway. I was implicated. We all are, our professional contributions weighed on scales of fuckability and willingness to go along, to be good sports, to not be humorless scolds or office gorgons; our achievements chalked up to male affiliation — the boyfriend who supposedly supplies you with ideas or the manager who took you under his wing because he wanted to get inside your pants. We can rebuff the harasser; we can choose not to fuck the boss. But in a world where men hold inordinate power, we’re still in bed with the guy.
There is another realm of anger here, arising from our knowledge that even the long-delayed chance to tell these repugnant truths is built on several kinds of privilege. As others have observed, it matters that the most public complaints so far have come from relatively affluent white women in elite professions, women who’ve worked closely enough with powerful white men to be available for harassment. Racism and class discrimination determine whose stories get picked up and which women are readily believed.
That reality fogs some of the satisfaction we feel in watching monstrous men lose their influence; we know that it’s a drop in a bottomless bucket. “Maybe we can get another two horrible people to have to step down or say they’re sorry,” one Democratic lawmaker told me, “but that helps only 20 people, and it’s 20 million who need things to change. Plus, you’re a farmworker? A lady who cleans offices? You’re a prostitute or an immigrant? You’re not going to tell your story.”...
...The progressive journalist Matt Taibbi recently published a lengthy apology/explanation in which he despaired that the public reappraisal of the work that established him (in particular, a book about Russia that he now says is satirical and includes accounts of pushing women under the table for blow jobs, of telling them to lighten up when they object to such high jinks) is coinciding with the publication of his book about the death of Eric Garner. It’s the kind of important book that he’s been working toward writing for 30 years, he laments. Reading this, I couldn’t help but think of all the women who’ve wanted to be writers for 30 years, who’ve yearned to make the world a better place by telling stories of injustice, but who haven’t had the opportunity in part because so much journalistic space is occupied by men like Taibbi: dudes who in some measure gained their professional footholds by objectifying women — and not just in big, bad Russia. Take the piece Taibbi wrote in 2009 about athletes’ wives. “The problem with the Smoking-Hot Skank as a permanent life choice,” he opined, “is that she eventually gets bored and starts calling up reporters to share her Important Political Opinions.” Taibbi may feel demoralized because the hilarious misogynistic stylings of his youth are now interfering with his grown-up career, but lots of women never even got their careers off the ground because the men in their fields saw them as Smoking-Hot Skanks whose claim to having a thought in their heads was no more than a punch line.
Men have not succeeded in spite of their noxious behavior or disregard for women; in many instances, they’ve succeeded because of it...
...The truth is, the risk of exposure that makes us feel anxious about the well-being of our male friends and colleagues — the risk of being named and never recovering — is one of the only things that could ever force change. Because without real, genuine penalties on the line, without generations of men fearing that if they abuse their power, if they treat women like shit, they’ll be out of jobs, shamed, their families devastated — without that actual, electric, dangerous possibility: Nothing. Will. Change. Companies will simply start investing more in sexual-harassment insurance (a real thing!) and make payouts a line item in the budget, and we’ll go back to talking about how men are just men.
Women I’ve spoken to already predict, drily, that even the men suffering the harshest consequences will be rehabilitated soon enough: that 18 months from now, some ambitious New York Times editor will assign Leon Wieseltier an essay on identity politics, pitching it as counterintuitive, knowing it will get zillions of clicks; someone a decade from now will ask an 82-year-old James Toback to direct an artsy realist movie about sexual assault, and it will be admired by some prominent person as trenchant and gutsy.
That’s because this world is stacked in favor of men, yes, in a way that is so widely understood as to be boring, invisible, just life. But more deeply, this will happen because we can see in men — even in the bad ones — talent. We manage to look past their flaws and sexual violations to what value they bring to the world. It is the direct opposite, in many ways, of how we view women, whose successes can still be blithely attributed to the fact that the boss wanted to fuck them...
...MSNBC’s Mike Barnicle, himself once having been returned to power after a plagiarism scandal, has mourned publicly for the injury done to his friend and former colleague Mark Halperin, who got canned after being accused of pushing his penis against younger female subordinates: “He deserves to have what he did deplored,” Barnicle declared. “But does he deserve to die? How many times can you kill a guy?”
A powerful white man losing a job is a death, and don’t be surprised if women wind up punished for the spate of killings.
Many men will absorb the lessons of late 2017 to be not about the threat they’ve posed to women but about the threat that women pose to them. So there will be more — perhaps unconscious — hesitancy about hiring women, less eagerness to invite them to lunch, or send them on work trips with men; men will be warier of mentoring women.
The only real solution may be one that is hardest to envision: equality...
lenona
at December 5, 2017 1:09 PM
So there will be more — perhaps unconscious — hesitancy about hiring women, less eagerness to invite them to lunch, or send them on work trips with men; men will be warier of mentoring women.
In my case this is a fully conscious thought process: do not be alone with a woman at work where we can not be seen or heard. As Heinlein wrote so long ago
Never appeal to a man's 'better nature.' He may not have one. Invoking his self-interest gives you more leverage.
Weinstein & ilk are instructional as to the "he may not have one" part. As to the later, it is in my self-interest to avoid problems.
I R A Darth Aggie
at December 5, 2017 2:10 PM
Interesting. From 1963, when you didn't go to rehab for sex addiction and pronounced "cured" after 6 weeks.
In other words, Jack Profumo was done in by the "I did not have sexual relations with that woman" moment.
...
There was no comeback, and no attempt at one. He accepted that his career was ruined and never sought public sympathy. As extraordinary as his downfall was, the aftermath was unique. On June 5th 1963 he resigned from the government, from Parliament and from the Queen's Privy Council. Not long afterwards, he contacted Toynbee Hall, a charitable mission in the East End of London, and asked whether they needed any help. He started washing dishes and helping with the children's playgroup, and he stayed for 40 years. He disappeared amid the grimy tenements of east London and did good works till he died. And, with the exception of one newspaper article to mark Toynbee Hall's centenary, he never said another word in public again.
"You can't write a thought longer than ten words, but we ought not complain..."
Poor Faulkner! He thinks that long words...
But you DO complain. Oddly, as much about how others address the issues as the issues themselves.
I can hint why Snoopy's got a point, but you're determined not to see it.
On the bleaching Mpetrie that is just advertising. It wasn't that long ago someone was flogging scented douches so women could have that lemony fresh smell. A horribly unhygienic idea. And there were plenty of stupid ideas before that. At one point shoe stores had x-ray machines for your feet. Just in case you wanted to look at your bones. Never mind the cancer.
Ben
at December 5, 2017 10:35 PM
lenona I've got a question for you,
We live in an era of unprecedented peace and prosperity for women, in a culture uniquely designed to care for women's needs, reduce her labors, and cater to her desire on nearly every level - maintained on the blood and sweat of men whos primary goal is to impress/please a woman enough that she will consent to fuck him
How is it possible in literally the best time in all of human history to be a woman that they seem less capable than ever of bearing an increasingly smaller and smaller load?
Naw, didn't bother to follow the link. If you guys are so Ugg!-like that you have to point to witless sources and then say "Well, what do you THINK I meant?!??!?"....
It's easier just to ignore you. There's a reason you can't find the words or the time: This is about your childish resentments. It ain't going anywhere, or you'd be proud to share it.
Crid
at December 6, 2017 5:32 AM
"The only real solution may be one that is hardest to envision: equality."
That word does not mean what you think it means.
Cousin Dave
at December 6, 2017 7:32 AM
"Naw, didn't bother to follow the link."
Of course not. Those things are written by other people, who cannot possibly inform.
Please post another tweet, as you complain about the brevity of others.
Radwaste
at December 6, 2017 8:37 AM
> you complain about the brevity of others.
It's more that Ugg-ery is unpersuasive.
Crid
at December 6, 2017 9:05 AM
Conyers the third got busted for domestic abuse back in February. Hopefully the Conyers nephew is...better at life, if they want to keep the congressional seat in the family.
What a bunch of snowflakes.
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mpetrie, name-calling is ALWAYS rude. One has to define one's arguments. I.e., "attack ideas, not people." That's the adult approach.
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"That word does not mean what you think it means."
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Cousin Dave, you meant Rebecca Traister. Get it straight. You can contact her if you like, via NY Mag, Twitter, or her site. What was wrong with her other points, btw? She DID acknowledge that women don't help when they do nothing.
Fun list, earlier years are good too.
Crid at December 4, 2017 10:47 PM
55% of whites say that discrimination against whites exists in America today:
https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2017/10/24/559116373/poll-most-americans-think-their-own-group-faces-discrimination
Snoopy at December 5, 2017 4:09 AM
Can't imagine what point you're making there, kiddo.
Crid at December 5, 2017 4:49 AM
When you graduate from high school, it will make more sense.
Snoopy at December 5, 2017 5:28 AM
From Uncle Crid's linkie:
Remind me again why capitalism is so horrible? any one? Uncle Bernie?
I R A Darth Aggie at December 5, 2017 7:12 AM
People will die!
https://youtu.be/eXWhbUUE4ko
But wait...aren't too many people putting the climate at risk for change?
I R A Darth Aggie at December 5, 2017 8:09 AM
Back when quality mattered.
https://www.popsci.com/voyager-1-thrusters
Voyager 1 is a mere 13 billion miles away.
I R A Darth Aggie at December 5, 2017 8:23 AM
> (1)When (2)you (3)graduate...
You can't write a thought longer than ten words, but we ought not complain... You don't ever think one longer than four.
(BTW, if I'm confusing you with commenter Ben, it doesn't matter.)
Crid at December 5, 2017 8:33 AM
I'll have what she's having.
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/opossum-breaks-liquor-store-drunk-bourbon-article-1.3672661
I R A Darth Aggie at December 5, 2017 9:12 AM
(Meant to post this here, not there)
So, yeah, sure, there will always be plenty of countries ready to constrain free expression by policy on the basis of some self-flattering argument.
But the United States, whatever her strength. can never demand by policy the free expression of ideas in private or commercial realms.
Civilization is entirely dependent on the clarity of liberty-minded people & firms in the West to sustain their miraculous patterns of freedom.
We're fucking it up.
Anyone, ANYONE who uses the term "fake news" is part of the problem.
Crid at December 5, 2017 9:24 AM
Name the band.
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-12-05/a-band-without-a-no-1-hit-is-outselling-bruno-mars-ed-sheeran
I R A Darth Aggie at December 5, 2017 9:30 AM
Succession.
https://twitter.com/iowahawkblog/status/938040610426097665
I R A Darth Aggie at December 5, 2017 9:42 AM
Maybe not fake, but how about "bought and paid for news"?
http://thefederalist.com/2017/12/04/fusion-gps-scandal-implicates-media-possible-pay-publish-scheme/
Or the unlamented JournoList. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/JournoList
I R A Darth Aggie at December 5, 2017 10:03 AM
It also doesn't help that much of the media is bad at their job.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/lifestyle/style/obama-official-says-he-pushed-a-narrative-to-media-to-sell-the-iran-nuclear-deal/2016/05/06/5b90d984-13a1-11e6-8967-7ac733c56f12_story.html
Or realizing that something you're familiar with might actually be, you know, newsworthy?
http://althouse.blogspot.com/2017/11/dont-get-in-elevator-with-him-you-know.html
I R A Darth Aggie at December 5, 2017 10:05 AM
I was a cop on a Native American Indian reservation in 1979, and the worst racism I ever saw against blacks was by some of the Native Americans, but of course, it was nothing like slavery or Jim Crow laws. I also noticed that they really hated the "white man" for the awful things the government did to the Native Americans in the past.
I also noticed in some states, the "whites" discriminated against Native Americans, such as going onto the reservation and emptying the trash onto the road from their car. Not many know, but Native Americans can actually legally be excluded from an Indian Reservation (they are actually a sovereign nation), regardless of the reason. However, if the employee works for the federal government, the employee can't be excluded from the reservation, for example, a Bureau of Indian Affairs employee.
However, in most other areas (6 states) I have lived in, I haven't seen much discrimination by either Native Americans or blacks against whites,and vice versa. Most of the discrimination was against Native Americans and blacks.
Daniel at December 5, 2017 10:35 AM
https://twitter.com/mombot/status/938039604199825408
Sixclaws at December 5, 2017 10:36 AM
States with the death penalty, your problem is solved.
http://www.techtimes.com/articles/216655/20171205/doctor-created-3d-printed-euthanasia-machine-that-can-end-life-painlessly.htm
I R A Darth Aggie at December 5, 2017 11:24 AM
However, in most other areas (6 states) I have lived in, I haven't seen much discrimination by either Native Americans or blacks against whites,and vice versa.
Much of the current foaming at the mouth about whites is confined to college campuses. Hopefully it can be contained, but I have my doubts. Here's a case where it was, shall we say? nipped in the bud.
https://www.thecollegefix.com/post/39613/
The editors fired the columnist. Question: will they also fire the editor who approved the column in question?
I R A Darth Aggie at December 5, 2017 11:33 AM
I was a cop on a Native American Indian reservation in 1979, and the worst racism I ever saw against blacks was by some of the Native Americans,
_______________________________
I'm curious - examples? Why was it happening, in your opinion?
lenona at December 5, 2017 12:30 PM
Jonathan Swift's 350th anniversary was on Nov. 30th. Plenty of tributes!
https://www.google.com/search?hl=en&gbv=2&biw=1920&bih=974&ei=svsmWoD8Mami_Qb_mabACg&q=jonathan+swift+350th&oq=jonathan+swift+350th&gs_l=psy-ab.3...61861.61931.0.63314.2.2.0.0.0.0.161.161.0j1.1.0....0...1c.1.64.psy-ab..1.0.0....0.fADEU1wseV8
While I'm pretty sure Swift wasn't thinking of this when he wrote "Gulliver's Travels" (because some scholar would have confirmed this by now if Swift HAD been thinking of it), it was a common superstition in his time that you HAD to break the big end of an egg at some point. Otherwise, a witch might use it as a boat!!
lenona at December 5, 2017 12:45 PM
John Hockenberry just got added to "that" list.
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/12/04/business/media/john-hockenberry-sexual-harassment.html
(For those who don't know, he was paralyzed from the waist down, in the 1970s, in a car accident and went on, in the 1990s, to become "one of the first Western broadcast journalists to report from Kurdish refugee camps in Northern Iraq and Southern Turkey." He couldn't bring his wheelchair up the hills, of course - but he managed to make the deadline anyway. That also meant not eating or drinking anything for maybe more than a day.)
In HIS case, I'm not that surprised about the accusations, sadly. About 20 years ago, I read his memoir, and, IIRC, he made it clear he was not above slashing the tires of strangers with the "right" provocation. I knew I would never want to meet him - or anyone like that.
And let's remember that, aside from his case, dealing with a boss who harasses you is NOT as easy as simply getting up and walking out of the room. Unless you can afford not to get promoted and/or to have your reputation tarnished.
lenona at December 5, 2017 12:56 PM
Rebecca Traister, from "New York Magazine":
"We Are All Implicated"
https://www.thecut.com/2017/11/rebecca-traister-on-the-post-weinstein-reckoning.html
Excerpts:
...One woman, discussing a print journalist who harassed her in her early 20s, tells of an inverse dynamic: “Other female writers weren’t getting harassed, as far as we knew, which meant that they were the serious writers. We were silly little girls, not deserving of being thought of as real journalists if we were singled out for this treatment.” The slow-drip degradation, she says, led her to quit the profession. “He didn’t grope me, and he didn’t succeed in fucking me. But the way it made me feel — these insidious sexual advances you barely understand at that age, plus the constant professional undermining — it felt like you were never going to win, like you had no value.”
The reason that handsy colleagues exist on the same plane as violent predators is that the harm done to women doesn’t end with the original offense. It’s also how we’re evaluated based on our reactions to it. Do we smile or remain stone-faced, reciprocate or retreat, ignore or complain? What becomes of us hangs on what we choose.
Considering all of these angles, it’s easy to conclude that this moment actually isn’t radical enough, because it’s limited to sexual grievances. One 60-year-old friend, who is single and in a precarious professional situation, says, “I’m burning with rage watching some assholes pose as good guys just because they never put their hands on a colleague’s thigh, when I know for a fact they’ve run capable women out of workplaces in deeply gendered ways. I’m very frustrated, because I’m not in a position right now to spill some beans.”...
...I once heard that a choking person reflexively leaves the room, embarrassed for others to see her gasping for breath. I have no idea if that’s true, but it’s how I’ve dealt with harassment. One time on the subway, the man next to me wound his hand under my thigh and between my legs, as I sat there debating whether or not to stand up or scream because I DIDN'T WANT TO EMBARRASS HIM ON A FULL TRAIN. That’s why, when an important writer took me to coffee, offering to help me find a new job, and asked if I’d ever fantasized about fucking a married man, I simply laughed maniacally, as if he’d just made a joke about a 65-year-old man who suggests to a 25-year-old woman that she fuck him during a professional coffee...
...So, no, I was never serially sexually harassed. But the stink got on me anyway. I was implicated. We all are, our professional contributions weighed on scales of fuckability and willingness to go along, to be good sports, to not be humorless scolds or office gorgons; our achievements chalked up to male affiliation — the boyfriend who supposedly supplies you with ideas or the manager who took you under his wing because he wanted to get inside your pants. We can rebuff the harasser; we can choose not to fuck the boss. But in a world where men hold inordinate power, we’re still in bed with the guy.
There is another realm of anger here, arising from our knowledge that even the long-delayed chance to tell these repugnant truths is built on several kinds of privilege. As others have observed, it matters that the most public complaints so far have come from relatively affluent white women in elite professions, women who’ve worked closely enough with powerful white men to be available for harassment. Racism and class discrimination determine whose stories get picked up and which women are readily believed.
That reality fogs some of the satisfaction we feel in watching monstrous men lose their influence; we know that it’s a drop in a bottomless bucket. “Maybe we can get another two horrible people to have to step down or say they’re sorry,” one Democratic lawmaker told me, “but that helps only 20 people, and it’s 20 million who need things to change. Plus, you’re a farmworker? A lady who cleans offices? You’re a prostitute or an immigrant? You’re not going to tell your story.”...
...The progressive journalist Matt Taibbi recently published a lengthy apology/explanation in which he despaired that the public reappraisal of the work that established him (in particular, a book about Russia that he now says is satirical and includes accounts of pushing women under the table for blow jobs, of telling them to lighten up when they object to such high jinks) is coinciding with the publication of his book about the death of Eric Garner. It’s the kind of important book that he’s been working toward writing for 30 years, he laments. Reading this, I couldn’t help but think of all the women who’ve wanted to be writers for 30 years, who’ve yearned to make the world a better place by telling stories of injustice, but who haven’t had the opportunity in part because so much journalistic space is occupied by men like Taibbi: dudes who in some measure gained their professional footholds by objectifying women — and not just in big, bad Russia. Take the piece Taibbi wrote in 2009 about athletes’ wives. “The problem with the Smoking-Hot Skank as a permanent life choice,” he opined, “is that she eventually gets bored and starts calling up reporters to share her Important Political Opinions.” Taibbi may feel demoralized because the hilarious misogynistic stylings of his youth are now interfering with his grown-up career, but lots of women never even got their careers off the ground because the men in their fields saw them as Smoking-Hot Skanks whose claim to having a thought in their heads was no more than a punch line.
Men have not succeeded in spite of their noxious behavior or disregard for women; in many instances, they’ve succeeded because of it...
...The truth is, the risk of exposure that makes us feel anxious about the well-being of our male friends and colleagues — the risk of being named and never recovering — is one of the only things that could ever force change. Because without real, genuine penalties on the line, without generations of men fearing that if they abuse their power, if they treat women like shit, they’ll be out of jobs, shamed, their families devastated — without that actual, electric, dangerous possibility: Nothing. Will. Change. Companies will simply start investing more in sexual-harassment insurance (a real thing!) and make payouts a line item in the budget, and we’ll go back to talking about how men are just men.
Women I’ve spoken to already predict, drily, that even the men suffering the harshest consequences will be rehabilitated soon enough: that 18 months from now, some ambitious New York Times editor will assign Leon Wieseltier an essay on identity politics, pitching it as counterintuitive, knowing it will get zillions of clicks; someone a decade from now will ask an 82-year-old James Toback to direct an artsy realist movie about sexual assault, and it will be admired by some prominent person as trenchant and gutsy.
That’s because this world is stacked in favor of men, yes, in a way that is so widely understood as to be boring, invisible, just life. But more deeply, this will happen because we can see in men — even in the bad ones — talent. We manage to look past their flaws and sexual violations to what value they bring to the world. It is the direct opposite, in many ways, of how we view women, whose successes can still be blithely attributed to the fact that the boss wanted to fuck them...
...MSNBC’s Mike Barnicle, himself once having been returned to power after a plagiarism scandal, has mourned publicly for the injury done to his friend and former colleague Mark Halperin, who got canned after being accused of pushing his penis against younger female subordinates: “He deserves to have what he did deplored,” Barnicle declared. “But does he deserve to die? How many times can you kill a guy?”
A powerful white man losing a job is a death, and don’t be surprised if women wind up punished for the spate of killings.
Many men will absorb the lessons of late 2017 to be not about the threat they’ve posed to women but about the threat that women pose to them. So there will be more — perhaps unconscious — hesitancy about hiring women, less eagerness to invite them to lunch, or send them on work trips with men; men will be warier of mentoring women.
The only real solution may be one that is hardest to envision: equality...
lenona at December 5, 2017 1:09 PM
So there will be more — perhaps unconscious — hesitancy about hiring women, less eagerness to invite them to lunch, or send them on work trips with men; men will be warier of mentoring women.
In my case this is a fully conscious thought process: do not be alone with a woman at work where we can not be seen or heard. As Heinlein wrote so long ago
Weinstein & ilk are instructional as to the "he may not have one" part. As to the later, it is in my self-interest to avoid problems.
I R A Darth Aggie at December 5, 2017 2:10 PM
Interesting. From 1963, when you didn't go to rehab for sex addiction and pronounced "cured" after 6 weeks.
https://www.steynonline.com/7754/facing-up-to-it
I R A Darth Aggie at December 5, 2017 2:18 PM
"You can't write a thought longer than ten words, but we ought not complain..."
Poor Faulkner! He thinks that long words...
But you DO complain. Oddly, as much about how others address the issues as the issues themselves.
I can hint why Snoopy's got a point, but you're determined not to see it.
Aw, OK. Hint.
Radwaste at December 5, 2017 2:42 PM
A sign of the times: this.
mpetrie98 at December 5, 2017 5:13 PM
What a bunch of snowflakes.
mpetrie98 at December 5, 2017 6:52 PM
On the bleaching Mpetrie that is just advertising. It wasn't that long ago someone was flogging scented douches so women could have that lemony fresh smell. A horribly unhygienic idea. And there were plenty of stupid ideas before that. At one point shoe stores had x-ray machines for your feet. Just in case you wanted to look at your bones. Never mind the cancer.
Ben at December 5, 2017 10:35 PM
lenona I've got a question for you,
We live in an era of unprecedented peace and prosperity for women, in a culture uniquely designed to care for women's needs, reduce her labors, and cater to her desire on nearly every level - maintained on the blood and sweat of men whos primary goal is to impress/please a woman enough that she will consent to fuck him
How is it possible in literally the best time in all of human history to be a woman that they seem less capable than ever of bearing an increasingly smaller and smaller load?
lujlp at December 6, 2017 12:35 AM
> Aw, OK. Hint.
Three short words!
Naw, didn't bother to follow the link. If you guys are so Ugg!-like that you have to point to witless sources and then say "Well, what do you THINK I meant?!??!?"....
It's easier just to ignore you. There's a reason you can't find the words or the time: This is about your childish resentments. It ain't going anywhere, or you'd be proud to share it.
Crid at December 6, 2017 5:32 AM
"The only real solution may be one that is hardest to envision: equality."
That word does not mean what you think it means.
Cousin Dave at December 6, 2017 7:32 AM
"Naw, didn't bother to follow the link."
Of course not. Those things are written by other people, who cannot possibly inform.
Please post another tweet, as you complain about the brevity of others.
Radwaste at December 6, 2017 8:37 AM
> you complain about the brevity of others.
It's more that Ugg-ery is unpersuasive.
Crid at December 6, 2017 9:05 AM
Conyers the third got busted for domestic abuse back in February. Hopefully the Conyers nephew is...better at life, if they want to keep the congressional seat in the family.
https://twitter.com/lachlan/status/938518811396984832
I R A Darth Aggie at December 6, 2017 2:22 PM
What a bunch of snowflakes.
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mpetrie, name-calling is ALWAYS rude. One has to define one's arguments. I.e., "attack ideas, not people." That's the adult approach.
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"That word does not mean what you think it means."
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Cousin Dave, you meant Rebecca Traister. Get it straight. You can contact her if you like, via NY Mag, Twitter, or her site. What was wrong with her other points, btw? She DID acknowledge that women don't help when they do nothing.
lenona at December 7, 2017 11:45 AM
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