The "Cult Of Credulity" In The Wake Of Rape (Or Sexual Harassment Accusations)
Brendan O'Neill puts it perfectly in reason:
We now live in an increasingly Salem-like culture, in which people are called to suspend skepticism in relation to all allegations of rape, to say "I believe" the minute anyone claims to have been raped, and to be openly and proudly credulous in response to reports of rape. This cult of credulity, this constant chanting of "I believe!" has warped the public debate about rape and sexual assault. It has now reached its nadir in the shocking suspension of skepticism at Rolling Stone in response to a fabricated horror story.If Erdely nodded along to Jackie's story while robotically thinking "I believe," she isn't alone. Automatically and uncritically believing allegations of rape is all the rage today. Where for most of the Age of Enlightenment it was considered civilized to believe that those accused of a crime were innocent until proven guilty, now it appears the way to show that you are a good and caring person is to do pretty much the opposite. You should believe instantly the alleged victim's every word, and by extension to believe instantly that the accused is guilty as hell.
The same goes for "sexual harassment," and that's in quotes because the subject of that witch hunt, Bora Zivkovic, did nothing that met the legal standard for sexual harassment. It was sexual harassment simply because the women who accused him said it was.
And numerous reputable science writers -- males, too, like David Dobbs -- piled right on.
There are so many parallels to the Rolling Stone story. Nobody reported the other side of the story. The women were just believed. And questioning them was heresy and made you almost "as bad" as Bora. Yet, science writers take pride in their supposed skepticism. ("Supposed" is exactly right.)
It's time somebody reported that story. David Carr? Brendan O'Neill? Cathy Young? Katie Roiphe?
An injustice has been done to Bora and it's time somebody righted it by putting out a full set of facts -- including the other side.
(Good analysis of the whole Bora situation here, at nikitab.)







Devin LaSalle
http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/LegalCenter/story?id=2998744
lujlp at December 8, 2014 11:38 PM
Swissy said something great for the Maxwell post the other day:
(To imagine that Maxwell is in any meaningful sense a modern American attorney is ludicrous.)
Cathy Young tweetlinked this from Volokh. Favorite passage, as he speculates on RH's culpability for the Dunham book:
I love when law is simple enough for short words to be laid out in plain fashion like that.
Crid [CridComment at Gmail] at December 8, 2014 11:45 PM
And numerous reputable science writers -- males, too, like David Dobbs -- piled right on.
Sometimes, it is useful to run a feminist flag up the flag pole and see who salutes. It is a way for men to show their bona fides for the Cause.
And the Cause always trumps everything else.
Crid: using Barry as a fake name for a rapist is raaaaaaaaacist and reflects poorly on the current President.
I R A Darth Aggie at December 9, 2014 7:05 AM
After some thought, I'll call out Dunham and say there is no way a progressive woman will consent to having sex with a Republican (or a conservative or libertarian for that matter) since they aren't ideologically pure.
They only reason for a progressive to have sex with someone who isn't ideologically pure is out of simple rebellion. Or to hate fuck someone they actually dislike.
I'm also skeptical that an actual conservative would attend Oberlin.
I R A Darth Aggie at December 9, 2014 7:11 AM
I'm also skeptical that an actual conservative would attend Oberlin.
Posted by: I R A Darth Aggie at December 9, 2014 7:11 AM
You might if you were at the Conservatory. I know some die hard republicans who have sent their sons and daughters there.
However if you were, you probably would not have time for much of a social life.
Isab at December 9, 2014 7:32 AM
Ainjus' me.
Crid [CridComment at Gmail] at December 9, 2014 8:33 AM
I have no idea what most of the comments above are trying to say, but I'll add this to Amy's comment:
It's not just "science writers" (of either gender) who need to investigate and verify. It's journalists/reporters, period. And when the stakes are as grave as death, violent crime, or matters of character, it's incumbent on that reporter to be dead cert on the facts.
Kevin at December 9, 2014 8:50 AM
I enjoy the commenters over at nikitab.
Especially the one ('Gross') who maintains that it is sexual harassment simply because the woman thinks so.
Wow.
drcos at December 9, 2014 9:15 AM
You might if you were at the Conservatory. I know some die hard republicans who have sent their sons and daughters there.
That was one exception I could come up with. I think in the days to come, that will be considered...more carefully by the scions of such families.
I R A Darth Aggie at December 9, 2014 9:20 AM
It's not just "science writers" (of either gender) who need to investigate and verify. It's journalists/reporters, period.
Your points are valid. Also irrelevant to the notion of ideological purity.Much like Prof. Gruber, RS believes us yokels to be idiots, and we have to be lead, by hook or by crook, to correct think. It isn't about the story, it's about the end result.
But they got caught with their hands in a cookie jar, so...
I R A Darth Aggie at December 9, 2014 9:29 AM
Your points are valid. Also irrelevant to the notion of ideological purity.Much like Prof. Gruber, RS believes us yokels to be idiots, and we have to be lead, by hook or by crook, to correct think. It isn't about the story, it's about the end result.
I have no idea what Rolling Stone editors think, nor do I care. I only know they didn't do their job with this story.
Furthermore, I have no idea whether "Jackie" was raped; I only know it was unproven based on the facts presented in this story.
From The Washington Post:
At the request of Jackie, the magazine refrained from contacting the accused in this incident. “Because of the sensitive nature of Jackie’s story,” reads the note, “we decided to honor her request not to contact the man who she claimed orchestrated the attack on her nor any of the men who she claimed participated in the attack for fear of retaliation against her.”
That's truly shocking.
Kevin at December 9, 2014 9:39 AM
What is really pathetic is there are people still pushing the RS narrative. I was listening to NPR today and their guest said she completely believed the story because women are in danger when there are male dominated spaces. I.e. if women aren't constantly watching men then the men will kill/rape/steal/... There was a very Dan Rather feel with the documents were false but the story is true excuse. The bigotry was so offensive I had to change the station.
Ben at December 9, 2014 10:50 AM
Brava!! I absolutely agree. Bora's side of the story needs to be told, and the person(s) who orchestrated the "harassment" smear campaign attacking him should be exposed.
Richard Jowsey at December 9, 2014 2:53 PM
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